Bangkok Dental Hospital. Is this a suitable place for quality affordable dental work?

[rockyysdt]

I'm doing some forward planning for my next trip to Thailand as I'd like to include dental work, including crown implants.

 

In preparation I'll be shortly arranging a comprehensive dental check up in my home country.

 

This is planned to include a full written report/quote including x ray images.

 

Is the Bangkok Hospital Dental Department worthwhile for quality and competitively priced work?

 

Is this the place?  

Bangkok Dental Center, Bangkok Hospital
2nd Floor, Bangkok Dental Building (Soi Petchburi 47, Petchburi road)

 

I'll only have two weeks in the country.

Is this enough time and should I book in advance?

 

Do they have a list of tariffs and does this include Govt taxes?

 

many thanks.

 

R

Edited March 12, 2017 by rockyysdt

[theguyfromanotherforum]

I don't think 2 weeks is enough if you want to do crown implants and even if it was I would not do anything except regular filling in case there are complications.

[redwinecheese]

41 minutes ago, rockyysdt said:

I'll only have two weeks in the country.

Is this enough time and should I book in advance?

Two weeks are not enough for dental work and dental practice in Thailand is good in general why bother going to top hospitals since you are concerned about money, good luck

[rockyysdt]

1 minute ago, redwinecheese said:

Two weeks are not enough for dental work and dental practice in Thailand is good in general why bother going to top hospitals since you are concerned about money, good luck

 

Thanks.

 

Are you saying the hospital over charges in comparison to the private clinics?

[KittenKong]

Traditional implants take several months. Some places do "instant load" implants but my European dentist warned me to avoid them.

 

Personally I have my implants done by an implant specialist with much experience, so I would avoid small clinics for this. I would also avoid the specialist Bangkok dental places unless what I needed doing was exceptionally complex or unusual (or someone else was paying).

 

My three implants were done by a specialist at Phyathai Sri Racha and I paid 40,000B each for them, all included. I am satisfied.

[rockyysdt]

11 hours ago, KittenKong said:

Traditional implants take several months. Some places do "instant load" implants but my European dentist warned me to avoid them.

 

Personally I have my implants done by an implant specialist with much experience, so I would avoid small clinics for this. I would also avoid the specialist Bangkok dental places unless what I needed doing was exceptionally complex or unusual (or someone else was paying).

 

My three implants were done by a specialist at Phyathai Sri Racha and I paid 40,000B each for them, all included. I am satisfied.

Hi Kitten.

 

Maybe it was my use of the word "implant" and my poor knowledge of the suite of dentistry available these days.

 

I'm after simple crowns.

 

They use the base of the tooth and fit a crown over it.

 

Does this procedure fit into my two week stay in Thailand, and presumably cost far less?

 

Does it also alter the type of establishment I should choose?

[KittenKong]

Ah. Yes, you should be able to get that done in a few days, as long as you point out that you are in a hurry.

 

Any decent clinic should be able to do that but quality of work and price does vary hugely so try and find some recommendations in the local forums on here (the Bangkok one in your case). The search function should help.

Edited March 13, 2017 by KittenKong

[lopburi3]

Most crowns will require RCT and holding pin to make stronger and that takes several weeks normally - even before the crown visits.  If your dentist says this is not required the crowns should be available within your time-frame.   But be aware good dentistry here does cost and the high grade gold for crowns is the same price anywhere - recommendations to use back street shop for quality work would not be from me (been there - not again).  

[KittenKong]

15 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Most crowns will require RCT and holding pin to make stronger and that takes several weeks normally - even before the crown visits.  If your dentist says this is not required the crowns should be available within your time-frame.

 

I only have implants (all done here) and have never needed a crown as such, but my dentist in Europe used to do them in two visits and the delay in between was waiting for the final crown to be made. That delay should be minimal here.

 

That said, I had root canals done in Europe that were finished with composite and not crowns. They are fine after 20+ years but here they generally seem to want to finish root canals with crowns. Different skill levels? Habit? I dont know.

[lopburi3]

3 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

 

I only have implants (all done here) and have never needed a crown as such, but my dentist in Europe used to do them in two visits and the delay in between was waiting for the final crown to be made. That delay should be minimal here.

 

That said, I had root canals done in Europe that were finished with composite and not crowns. They are fine after 20+ years but here they generally seem to want to finish root canals with crowns. Different skill levels? Habit? I dont know.

Poster does not seem to have implants but basic tooth that needs crown so RCT (if required) would add to the time required.  Yes, normal porcelain over gold crown would be two visits about 5-7 days apart in my experience but believe they have same day types available - but even with them if RCT and pin required it would likely be longer than his stay and savings not worth possible issues later (unless planning to return here to live).  Dental work is not that cheap here - but it is normally good and in my experience as lot less painful (perhaps there is a beauty factor involved there however).

[rockyysdt]

2 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

even with them if RCT and pin required it would likely be longer than his stay and savings not worth possible issues later (unless planning to return here to live).  Dental work is not that cheap here - but it is normally good and in my experience as lot less painful (perhaps there is a beauty factor involved there however).

 

Have had 5 crowns done in my country.

 

 

No RCT Pins required.

 

All were 2 visit affairs (time to produce the crown).

 

Last one (Full Crown-veneered-indirect) in 2014 was AUS$1,550 (B40,000).

 

How much are they in Thailand?

 

As it was indicated to watch out for backyard places, I thought the Bangkok Hospital would be of an acceptable standard.

Edited March 13, 2017 by rockyysdt

[redwinecheese]

I wouldn't care about money when it comes to my smile looking good.

[lopburi3]

32 minutes ago, rockyysdt said:

 

Have had 5 crowns done in my country.

 

 

No RCT Pins required.

 

All were 2 visit affairs (time to produce the crown).

 

Last one (Full Crown-veneered-indirect) in 2014 was AUS$1,550 (B40,000).

 

How much are they in Thailand?

 

As it was indicated to watch out for backyard places, I thought the Bangkok Hospital would be of an acceptable standard.

Am sure Bangkok Hospital would be of highest standard - although have not used there dental facility myself.  Expect it would also be among the more expensive, as is there hospital.

 

Have not had new work done in many years but had high grade gold/porcelain replacement 2 years ago at cost of 22,000 at http://www.dentalisthailand.com/

[Sheryl]

Bangkok Hospital is just a short walk from the Bangkok Dental Hospital which is what I would recommend

 

You can email them for price quote. I seem to recall paying about 20,000 baht but that was for post as well as crown. Of course it will depend on the type of crown.

 

http://www.dentalhospitalbangkok.com/index.php

[lopburi3]

Actually it is a bit confusing as Bangkok Dental Hospital is not located with the other hospitals of the Bangkok Hospital group but directly on Phetchaburi Road at the turn many take to proceed to Bangkok Hospital; so even a bit closer to Sukhumvit.

https://www.bangkokhospital.com/index.php/en/center-of-excellence/good-health/dental-center

 

Edit:  and even more confusing as believe the facility Sheryl recommends is not Bangkok Dental Hospital but Dental Hospital in Bangkok (which her link leads to).  Rather confusing to say the least.  

Edited March 14, 2017 by lopburi3

[Sheryl]

Yes, "Dental Hospital Bangkok" and not a part of Bangkok Hospital, which like all hospitals has its own dental dept.

[rockyysdt]

3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Bangkok Hospital is just a short walk from the Bangkok Dental Hospital which is what I would recommend

 

You can email them for price quote. I seem to recall paying about 20,000 baht but that was for post as well as crown. Of course it will depend on the type of crown.

 

http://www.dentalhospitalbangkok.com/index.php

Thanks Cheryl.

 

I'll study their website and aim to make an appointment before arriving.

 

Do you recommend Bangkok Dental Hospital based on their level of quality?

[lopburi3]

To throw another name into the ring this was my original dental facility in Bangkok and was called Dr. Soms Dental Clinic when I used some 43 years ago (and they used specialists even then).  It still is a family type operation and suspect still high quality from list of doctors.

.http://www.bangkokdentalpolyclinic.net/index.html

[Sheryl]

49 minutes ago, rockyysdt said:

Thanks Cheryl.

 

I'll study their website and aim to make an appointment before arriving.

 

Do you recommend Bangkok Dental Hospital based on their level of quality?

 

Yes

[payanak]

        Most crowns will require RCT and holding pin to make stronger and that takes several weeks normally

 

Sorry, but this is quite wrong.  Most crowns do NOT need a RCT first.  Also the use of pins as part of the build up process is about 20 years out of date.  The core buildup material is nearly always bonded to the remaining tooth structure.  The use of pins has long been known to cause micro fractures in the remaining healthy tooth structure and overall to weaken the tooth.  Additionally poor placement of pins can also sometimes cause enough trauma to the nerve in the tooth such that it may later need a RCT whereas it would not have needed one otherwise.  Rarely, in teeth that have already had a RCT and almost no remaining healthy tooth structure for the dentist to work with a post may be placed to aid in the bonding of the core buildup material.   Do not let anyone tell you the post will strengthen the tooth.  Many years of research have shown this to be the opposite.  Get on your bicycle and go elsewhere.

 

 

 

[lopburi3]

As I posted have not had such work done in many years and in his case might not be required but indeed pins were always used to make mine stronger and I see it listed as an expense on current advertising so expect it is still used.  This was for chewing teeth that required an RCT due decay and had lost strength - not to cap a chipped tooth or beauty type crowns.

[Sheryl]

Most RCTs require crowns.

 

A crown per se does not require RCT or a pin, depends on why it is being done.

 

 

[rockyysdt]

On 2017-3-14 at 2:12 PM, Sheryl said:

Bangkok Hospital is just a short walk from the Bangkok Dental Hospital which is what I would recommend

 

You can email them for price quote. I seem to recall paying about 20,000 baht but that was for post as well as crown. Of course it will depend on the type of crown.

 

http://www.dentalhospitalbangkok.com/index.php

Hi Sheryl.

 

I arranged a full check up in my country and have established the need for two crowns and a filling.

There is some decay under the site of one of the proposed crowns, but well away from the root so no root canal is required.

 

I was given a quote in Melbourne as follows:  

 

2 x Crown Posterior, Porcelain fused to Metal  each THB32,000 all up.

 

 

The Bangkok Hospital quoted: 

 

Full Ceramic  THB22,100, or

Bonded to precious metal THB28,100 each

 

with   THB1,400 consultation & X Rays

 plus  THB1,500 if they're not happy with the clean I've just had.

 

The Bangkok Hospital won't bond to non precious metals.

 

 

I'm thinking the savings appear quite modest, particularly for a short time traveller if problems are experienced.

 

What are your thoughts?

Edited May 9, 2017 by rockyysdt

[lopburi3]

Be aware that Bangkok Hospital and Dental Hospital Bangkok are not the same place - I suspect you are talking about the latter but Bangkok Hospital also has a dental facility.  

[rockyysdt]

1 hour ago, lopburi3 said:

Be aware that Bangkok Hospital and Dental Hospital Bangkok are not the same place - I suspect you are talking about the latter but Bangkok Hospital also has a dental facility.  

Does the Bangkok Hospital publicise their dental tariffs.

 

The Dental Hospital Bangkok, which is next to the Bangkok Hospital had been recommended for quality work.

They're just a little pricey.

[lopburi3]

Do not use myself - but do not believe most full hospitals do.  Am sure they would quote in email or on phone.  https://www.bangkokhospital.com/index.php/en/center-of-excellence/good-health/dental-center

 

I use https://www.vejthani.com/dentalis-in-thailand.php

 

But as you have found dental treatment is not cheap at good private facilities.

[Sheryl]

The Dental Hospital and prices in general private hospitals woll be about the same.

 

Dental work involving crowns, braces, implants is indeed not all that inexpensive here due to cost of materials, often imported. Where things do cost much less is when it is pretty much just dentist fee e.g. cleanings, fillings, extractions.

 

Agree that makes sense to do back in Oz in your case.

 

 

[taxout]

I've had a fair amount of work done at both the dental clinic of Bangkok Hospital and at the Dental Hospital.

 

I was very happy with the quality of work at Bangkok Hospital, and with the wide range of specialties there. If I had some serious oral reconstruction to be done, this would be my choice. The problem -- which perhaps they've resolved by now -- is the appointment system. Dentists tend to work there only a few days and a few hours each week, and getting your follow up appointments in a reasonably quick time frame can be difficult: they're very busy. That is, not likely to work well if you're in Bangkok for a short period.

 

I was almost as happy with the quality of the dentists at the Dental Hospital, some of the younger staff apart. I particularly liked the way they freely consult with each other on problem issues. Appointments are easy to make. What I don't like is that you don't have "your" dentist. And while reasonable for most procedures, their charges seem high for implants and surgery.

 

(I think there's some confusion above between posts and pins. Pins are needle-like things that used to be placed to "strengthen" weakened teeth, but which have now fallen out of favor because of concern they may cause fractures. Posts are the larger things often used in reconstruction after a root canal, and they are still used.)

Edited May 12, 2017 by taxout