webfact Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 CCTV shows Lahu teen resisting: Army By The Nation At a press conference yesterday, Third Army Area 3 chief LtGeneral Wijak Banpasop defends a soldier who fatally shot Chaiyapoom Pasae, a Lahu activist, in an extrajudicial killing in Chiang Mai last Friday. Investigation of Chaiyapoom’s savings account for unusual financial activity BANGKOK: -- CCTV recordings show a Lahu student resisting soldiers’ operations at a checkpoint where he was shot dead in an extrajudicial killing last Friday, Army officials have said. “We have now forwarded the recordings to the Army chief General Chalermchai Sittisart,” Third Army Area 3 chief Lt-General Wijak Banpasop said yesterday. “I personally think the soldier involved did not use excessive force. He just fired one shot at an arm but the bullet happened to be fatal.” Wijak was referring to the shooting of Chaiyapoom Pasae, a prominent teenage Lahu activist, which has attracted massive attention from the Thai public and international organisations. Several non-governmental organisations have already issued statements demanding justice for Chaiyapoom while Preeda Nakpiew, a lawyer of the Cross Cultural Foundation, has stepped forward to defend his name. Police have labelled Chaiyapoom as a drug suspect after Third Army Area officers said a soldier shot Chaiyapoom in self-defence because he had pulled out a knife and then a hand grenade. Soldiers manning the checkpoint in Chiang Mai’s Chiang Dao district said they later found 2,800 methamphetamine tablets in Chaiyapoom’s car. “He’s gone and cannot speak for himself anymore. So before you raise allegations against him, produce evidence,” Preeda said yesterday. The information provided by officials was very different than the accounts of people who were close to Chaiyapoom, he added. Preeda said his team would check Chaiyapoom’s bank account to verify police claims that anti-narcotics police had detected unusual financial transactions in his account. “As far as we know, Chaiyapoom had just small savings in an account he opened with his school,” Preeda said. “The amount is not huge.” Speaking on condition of anonymity, a source said Chaiyapoom was a diligent boy who performed various activities in his free time to earn income. “He was a speaker at various functions and got paid. He also collected forest produce for sale. Little by little, he had deposited money in his school account. Then he withdrew Bt40,000 to buy a car,” the source said. On March 17, Chaiyapoom went out with a friend, Phongsanai Saengtala, when their car was stopped for a search at the checkpoint. Preeda said Phongsanai would be a key witness in the case. The source said he rushed to the scene when he heard about the fatal shooting and saw Phongsanai handcuffed and crying while in the soldiers’ custody. “I didn’t see methamphetamine tablets, a hand grenade or knife,” the source said. Apart from the ongoing police investigation, the Third Army Area has also launched a probe in response to Chalermchai’s order. Just as Third Army Area deputy commander Maj-General Sompong Chaengchamras, head of the probe, Wijak said he had instructed the unit overseeing the checkpoint to maintain the morale of the soldier who pulled the trigger. “In my eyes, he just carried out his duty. If he is blamed as a villain, probably no soldiers will have the courage to take action in the future,” Wijak said, ““If I were the soldier at the scene, I might have fired several shots”. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30310099 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-03-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Who they trying to kid?......Dolts in uniforms....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yet only yesterday there was a news report that there was no cctv at the checkpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Trust us,we are Thai regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 would like to see the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yep, ^^ would like to see that vid too which didn't exist yesterday ... He 'resisted'? How exactly? Saluted them one-fingered, in stereo maybe ... something they deserve on any given day anyway ...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ooooooohh...so if it benefits the powers that be, suddenly there ARE working CCTV- cameras? I believe it, when I see it...eg. I don't believe a single word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 4 hours ago, webfact said: Wijak said, ““If I were the soldier at the scene, I might have fired several shots”. Say no more of trigger happy soldiers. Admission from the deputy commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 “I personally think the soldier involved did not use excessive force. He just fired one shot at an arm but the bullet happened to be fatal.” .....They actually said this and think that is Ok? Unbelievable. So they have CCTV footage. Let's see the part where he is holding a hand grenade. #notholdingmybreath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 What happens when people ask to see it? "We have CCTV but this is a private/internal matter with the army. For reasons of national security, we can't make it public. But don't worry, guys. You can clearly see the soldier aimed at his arm. Believe me. I'm important" Little bit of advice to the people in power; try to avoid these kind of news stories during the hot season. As you can see already, people are going off their nut for the most trivial of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Katipo said: “I personally think the soldier involved did not use excessive force. He just fired one shot at an arm but the bullet happened to be fatal.” .....They actually said this and think that is Ok? Unbelievable. So they have CCTV footage. Let's see the part where he is holding a hand grenade. #notholdingmybreath That is the thing. If the young man had a grenade and a knife, deadly force would be justified, so why beat around the bush and say the soldier was aiming at the arm? Makes no sense, but this is the land of smiles and denials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 As again and again long as the army is in power such incidents will repeat again and again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, yellowboat said: That is the thing. If the young man had a grenade and a knife, deadly force would be justified, so why beat around the bush and say the soldier was aiming at the arm? Makes no sense, but this is the land of smiles and denials. Would be nice to see CCTV, if its clear (doubt it) it could be useful. So far I am thinking the army used too much force, unless a knive or hand grenade can be proven. (though a hand grenade strange weapon to carry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: officers said a soldier shot Chaiyapoom in self-defence because he had pulled out a knife and then a hand grenade. Soldiers manning the checkpoint in Chiang Mai’s Chiang Dao district said they later found 2,800 methamphetamine tablets in Chaiyapoom’s car How convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: The source said he rushed to the scene when he heard about the fatal shooting and saw Phongsanai handcuffed and crying while in the soldiers’ custody. “I didn’t see methamphetamine tablets, a hand grenade or knife,” the source said. How inconvenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: “In my eyes, he just carried out his duty. If he is blamed as a villain, probably no soldiers will have the courage to take action in the future,” Wijak said, ““If I were the soldier at the scene, I might have fired several shots”. Hmm...good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 6 hours ago, webfact said: “I personally think the soldier involved did not use excessive force. He just fired one shot at an arm but the bullet happened to be fatal.” Dah really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 4 hours ago, edwinchester said: Yet only yesterday there was a news report that there was no cctv at the checkpoint. Where the pills, the knife and the hand grenade there as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 No soldier is taught to 'shoot to wound'. If the guy did have a grenade it was the right thing to shoot him and he could have caused a lot of casualties. It's a big 'if' though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 A very rotten smell in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: Where the pills, the knife and the hand grenade there as well? yes he was holding them all in his three hands you fool!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, kannot said: yes he was holding them all in his three hands you fool!!! Thanks for the fool comment you should change your avatar. Ain't no love of Jesus in your heart only unkindness towards your fellow man. I guess the Love of Jesus is an example of the new alternate truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, elgordo38 said: Thanks for the fool comment you should change your avatar. Ain't no love of Jesus in your heart only unkindness towards your fellow man. I guess the Love of Jesus is an example of the new alternate truth. I thought the avatar was used in irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Don't worry , the video must be released so we can all see what happened. The public will demand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, Bluespunk said: I thought the avatar was used in irony. Thanks for reminding me that we live in an ironic world. I should practice it more I guess and join the ranks of the fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, elgordo38 said: Thanks for the fool comment you should change your avatar. Ain't no love of Jesus in your heart only unkindness towards your fellow man. I guess the Love of Jesus is an example of the new alternate truth. C'mon Elgordo a jokes a joke, and you should know theres no bigger joke than "Jesus" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, elgordo38 said: Thanks for reminding me that we live in an ironic world. I should practice it more I guess and join the ranks of the fools. Lots of "rankers and fools " in the world, Your'e not one of them mr sensitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, kannot said: C'mon Elgordo a jokes a joke, and you should know theres no bigger joke than "Jesus" I love a good joke its being called a fool that bothers me. Its not a term I use lightly if at all on here its to demeaning and its intent is well one has to almost be inside the body of the user to discover intent. Apology accepted. I like friends more than enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, kannot said: Lots of "rankers and fools " in the world, Your'e not one of them mr sensitive Noooo not sensitive I would not use the term describing you and appreciate the same in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, balo said: the video must be released It might be all used up by too many viewings before it can be released.... similar to DNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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