SovietChild Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) Someone (@malt25) opposed my statement that 1 out of 4 people in Thailand owns their own business, and I do not have the source to back it up because the source was from a book that I don't have in my possession anymore. If about 10% of Americans own their own business, then what are the chance that Thai people are higher and have 25% of people owning their own business? I mean look at all those market places. Even a small little village have a huge market place. Look at all those street food shops. When one goes to the mall he will notice that there is a lot of shops over there, especially electronic ones. So, what do you think the number is? Can it really be that 1 out of 4 people in Thailand owns their own business? Edited March 25, 2017 by SovietChild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Who Knows? I know there are a lot of businesses in Thai that make no money. That could account for a higher total. Orobably depends on on what definition of business we are using. Do little kids selling flowers late at night on school nights count as businesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietChild Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, anotheruser said: Who Knows? I know there are a lot of businesses in Thai that make no money. That could account for a higher total. Orobably depends on on what definition of business we are using. Do little kids selling flowers late at night on school nights count as businesses? I don't think so unless their parents registered it. I forgot to mention how many 7/11 out there. I'v seen 3 almost next to year other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 getting back to the market scene in every market there is a money lender the traders go to them borrow buy stock / sell stock take out living expenses and life goes on a continuous downward spiral hardly the image of a successful trader so these statistics are hardly representative of these percentages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Probably do, but wish they would move them off the sidewalks so l don't have to walk in the road.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyou Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Most will fail. Just look at the thousands of hair salons and massage parlors and bars sitting empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, SovietChild said: I forgot to mention how many 7/11 out there. I'v seen 3 almost next to year other. Yes they would amount to the number because there franchises, along with McDonald and KFC also many other business outlets e.g. cars etc. Another example or observation would be Thais like my wife who has a small restaurant along with 35 or so others in a park area there all registered as self-employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 A lot of Thais have more than 1 job and do condo sales etc and drive a cab stuff like that. Most market stalls/micro business's are not registered business's and like another said; sometimes a market appears to be teeming with little stalls but the truth is 1 guy likely owns the stock/market stall space. Lends to shop worker and shop worker makes a small paypacket at end of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I doubt 1 in 4 Thais owns their own businesses, but I would guess that maybe a large minority of the population work for themselves, odd jobs, freelance workers and cash in hand jobs. There is a guy who generally helps with building contracts where I live but he doesn`t officially own his own business. There is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiver Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 In the style of "eats shoots and leaves"... There is a lot of difference between business turnover and the turnover of a business. I'd guess your original numbers are in the ball park though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, cyberfarang said: I doubt 1 in 4 Thais owns their own businesses, but I would guess that maybe a large minority of the population work for themselves, odd jobs, freelance workers and cash in hand jobs. There is a guy who generally helps with building contracts where I live but he doesn`t officially own his own business. There is a difference. Yep Thailand has it's black market economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Yea that could be true,but like in our village more than 3/4 of the so called businesses are closed after a 1 to 3 month period.they are still there but the doors stay closed.They work on paper but practice fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 If you look at the number of people that pay tax you might be correct but on the low side. There are 37 million people employed, 9 million submit tax returns but only 2,3 million pay tax. So if only 9 million submit tax returns from 37 m employed the ratio of self employed to employed maybe 3 to 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungleBiker Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Don't forget all the self-employed farmers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I think it's possible. Not all of them make money though but that's not their purpose i guess...just to sit in aircon and be away from mummie, have food delivered or within 20 steps... Most people who own a business have a car though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Having or doing a business in Thailand is more than a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarguy Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 there were 1000s more before the street selling crackdown , they were probably owned by the sellers and others who fronted the sellers with goods , but at least it paid them something , most of these people have no business education,........and it shows ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvenSteven Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if it was 1 out of 4. After all, Thailand resembles a third world country, with people peddling anything and everything just to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyou Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 there were 1000s more before the street selling crackdown , they were probably owned by the sellers and others who fronted the sellers with goods , but at least it paid them something , most of these people have no business education,........and it shows !You don't need a business plan selling fake everything at unbelievable mark up. Just need a calculator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietChild Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 here is a picture from a book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 do u consider every person selling in every market around thailand as owning their business? I'd say 25% is still high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 3/25/2017 at 3:02 PM, Rc2702 said: A lot of Thais have more than 1 job and do condo sales etc and drive a cab stuff like that. Most market stalls/micro business's are not registered business's and like another said; sometimes a market appears to be teeming with little stalls but the truth is 1 guy likely owns the stock/market stall space. Lends to shop worker and shop worker makes a small paypacket at end of day. this it not true at all; I know many many stall owners and all they do is pay for the space in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 8 hours ago, SovietChild said: here is a picture from a book That is false information, it's Russia's fault ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamBeast Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 And how many are registered? That's the second question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietChild Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, SiamBeast said: And how many are registered? That's the second question. I believe they all have to register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamBeast Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 In principle yes - what I meant is, how many do it totally under the table, getting paid in cash, and declaring nothing? For example, a lot of street food vendors just put their cart there and sell food - I seriously doubt that they have a real registered company that pays taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 hours ago, SovietChild said: I believe they all have to register. It's dead easy to register. Many people get family to chip in to buy stock, the foolish go to money lenders. Near my house there was a young girl with a stall selling cold drinks. I only saw her sell one drink before she went out of business. Wrong sort of business, right next to several mom and pop shops selling same stuff, and wrong location, with very few potential customers. However, for a while she owned her own business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningstunt Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I believe they all have to register. How come there are so many with the same company name? Must be a thousand "Happy massage" shops across Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Actually, OP, it does not surprise me at all that Thailand has a higher percentage of business owners than the US. Here are some reasons: 1. More people in TH start their own businesses because there are fewer high paying jobs working for someone else. In the US, you can get a high paying job that allows you to save into retirement without the risk associated with starting your own business. 2. Thailand doesn't offer much in government support such as social security, medicare, pensions, etc., so everyone is on their own to plan for their future. 3. It's easier to start a business in Thailand, in terms of regulations. The result, though, are business owners who really aren't qualified to be business owners in the first place, resulting in high failure rate. Most business owners in the US not only love their work, but are experts in their field. There are failures in US start-ups as well, but not as much as in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funandsuninbangkok Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just read woman who has been selling street food in Ekamai has three kids, one disabled. She has no idea what she will do. Really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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