webfact Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 British MPs demand Bashar al-Assad's wife Asma lose UK citizenship Laura Hughes LONDON: -- British Members of Parliament MPs will formally demand Asma al-Assad be stripped of her UK citizenship over accusations she helps spread propaganda for her husband, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Mrs Assad, a former investment banker who married Dr Assad in 2000, has more than 500,000 followers in total on her Instagram, Facebook and Telegram accounts which she uses to praise the Syrian regime's "martyrs" and attack the West. Her Instagram account was used to respond to US President Donald Trump's air strikes against a Syrian airbase, in response to a chemical weapons attack by the regime. Full story: http://www.smh.com.au/world/british-mps-demand-bashar-alassads-wife-asma-lose-uk-citizenship-20170418-gvmnl7.html -- The Sydney Morning Herald 2017-04-18
Andaman Al Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Well there is a step in to the abyss! Lose your citizenship over free speech. The British Government may well disagree with the lady but she is not spreading hate or inciting violence. She simply has a different account of things, and for that they want to rescind her natural born citizenship. What next?
billd766 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Andaman Al said: Well there is a step in to the abyss! Lose your citizenship over free speech. The British Government may well disagree with the lady but she is not spreading hate or inciting violence. She simply has a different account of things, and for that they want to rescind her natural born citizenship. What next? Did you read the full story? quote " Liberal Democrat MPs were due to send an official letter to the UK Home Office on Monday, calling for Mrs Assad's citizenship to be revoked. They are also calling for a debate in the House of Commons next week." quote " Mrs Assad was born in London to Syrian parents and educated at Queen's College, a private girls school, and Kings College London, where she gained a degree in computer science in 1996. She is understood to be a British-Syrian dual national and the Home Secretary has the power to remove her UK citizenship if she decides that would be "conducive to the public good". Firstly, it is some Liberal Democrat MPs who have raised the matter and not the government. Secondly Mrs Assad is a Syrian citizen born to Syrian parents in the UK. That is why she has dual nationality. The Home Secretary can rescind her UK citizenship which probably wouldn't bother her anyway as she is Syrian first and UK second. He would need to have a good legal reason for doing so and the bleating of a few LibDem MPs isn't a good enough reason. My son was born in Thailand to his Thai mother and his UK father. That is why he has dual nationality.
Andaman Al Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 ^^^ billd766 Yes I read the story and understand the citizenship issues. The fact is she is a British Citizen who happens to be married to someone that members of the British Government do not like. That is not a good enough reason to revoke citizenship really is it? The fact that she has duel citizenship is neither here nor there and that is a privilege that most of our kids out here enjoy. For the Lib Dems to become involved with the politics of spite shows just how small they are. There are much more important issues that members of our Government need to be considering.
4737 Carlin Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 The Lib Dems are a spineless, PC joke of a political party. If they had any backbone or grasp on reality, they'd be calling for all the 'British' jihadi's who've fought for Isis to lose their UK nationality.
dabhand Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 An opinion piece on this same subject in the UK Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/18/asma-al-assad-uk-citizenship-syria The Guardian also had an article about her husband, just a few hours previously, with the sensationalist headline more normally associated with the DM. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/18/bashar-al-assad-trained-as-a-doctor-how-did-he-become-a-mass-murderer Of more interest are the comments to these articles where, no doubt to the surprise of the Guardian, a number of the comments indicate that the public are becoming more sceptical over the 'Syria Regime bad' narrative that is being pushed by the West. Granted that a number of comments, particularly in the Bashar article, will emanate from the putinbots but there are a number that use evidence, yet to be discredited, from both the UN and an award winning MIT professor (Theodore Postol) that cast extreme doubt on Regime involvement in the 2013 and 2017 gas attacks. Maybe too many inconvenient truths? Bit of a surprise from The Guardian of all papers, given their past collaboration on the Snowden issue, amongst others.
Baerboxer Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 8 hours ago, billd766 said: Did you read the full story? quote " Liberal Democrat MPs were due to send an official letter to the UK Home Office on Monday, calling for Mrs Assad's citizenship to be revoked. They are also calling for a debate in the House of Commons next week." quote " Mrs Assad was born in London to Syrian parents and educated at Queen's College, a private girls school, and Kings College London, where she gained a degree in computer science in 1996. She is understood to be a British-Syrian dual national and the Home Secretary has the power to remove her UK citizenship if she decides that would be "conducive to the public good". Firstly, it is some Liberal Democrat MPs who have raised the matter and not the government. Secondly Mrs Assad is a Syrian citizen born to Syrian parents in the UK. That is why she has dual nationality. The Home Secretary can rescind her UK citizenship which probably wouldn't bother her anyway as she is Syrian first and UK second. He would need to have a good legal reason for doing so and the bleating of a few LibDem MPs isn't a good enough reason. My son was born in Thailand to his Thai mother and his UK father. That is why he has dual nationality. If a baby is born in the UK, there is no automatic right of citizen ship as in the US. Neither parent was a British national so how was her British nationality achieved?
stevenl Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 If a baby is born in the UK, there is no automatic right of citizen ship as in the US. Neither parent was a British national so how was her British nationality achieved?I recall one of her parents was Syrian and one British, which would make the article incorrect. A vague recollection though, happy to be shown wrong. sent using Tapatalk
billd766 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Baerboxer said: If a baby is born in the UK, there is no automatic right of citizen ship as in the US. Neither parent was a British national so how was her British nationality achieved? Ask the UK government. You could also ask Abhisit Vejjajiva the same question as he was born in the UK of 2 Thai parents.
Richard W Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Baerboxer said: If a baby is born in the UK, there is no automatic right of citizen ship as in the US. Neither parent was a British national so how was her British nationality achieved? But there was such a right until 1st January 1983. We have a couple of dual national Thai-British shoplifters in our neighbourhood. Should they be deprived of British nationality on the basis that removing them from the UK would be conducive to the public good? P.S. Their father's British and has long roots in the UK.
stevenl Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 15 hours ago, stevenl said: I recall one of her parents was Syrian and one British, which would make the article incorrect. A vague recollection though, happy to be shown wrong. sent using Tapatalk Just had some time and checked, both her parents are Syrian.
thaibeachlovers Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 So the politicians want to penalise a person that never caused harm to the UK ( I never even knew she did anything other than be a wife ), but they can't keep the British streets safe from people that hate westerners. What a pack of losers.
F4UCorsair Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 On 4/18/2017 at 3:32 PM, Andaman Al said: ^^^ billd766 Yes I read the story and understand the citizenship issues. The fact is she is a British Citizen who happens to be married to someone that members of the British Government do not like. That is not a good enough reason to revoke citizenship really is it? The fact that she has duel citizenship is neither here nor there and that is a privilege that most of our kids out here enjoy. For the Lib Dems to become involved with the politics of spite shows just how small they are. There are much more important issues that members of our Government need to be considering. "Duel" citizenship............citizens at 20 paces?? I understand, only typo.
Andaman Al Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 4 hours ago, F4UCorsair said: "Duel" citizenship............citizens at 20 paces?? I understand, only typo. Slow day F4UCorsair
chickenslegs Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 On 4/18/2017 at 8:40 PM, Baerboxer said: If a baby is born in the UK, there is no automatic right of citizen ship as in the US. Neither parent was a British national so how was her British nationality achieved? On 4/19/2017 at 2:26 AM, Richard W said: But there was such a right until 1st January 1983.... She was born in the UK in the 70's, so she will be a UK citizen by birth. Unless she is encouraging people to commit crimes, terrorist acts or fund terrorism, I think she is entitled to have her say - as all Brits are (whether or not we agree with her). I am confident that Parliament and the Home Office will do the right thing.
F4UCorsair Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 On 6/18/2017 at 0:41 AM, Andaman Al said: Slow day F4UCorsair It was Al, except on the (anti) Trump threads!!!
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