Thai students develop cheap, light bulletproof vest

[Grumpy Old Man]

1 hour ago, upena said:

But, illegal for civilians to wear

Classed as a "Weapon of War" and a criminal offence to have and use by an unauthorised person as the international press / reporter found out a few years ago. . . . 

[Dexlowe]

11 minutes ago, anotheruser said:

Come on now... you don't primarily consider price when buying bullet proof vests? I know when I buy my flack jackets I always think I could pay more but why would I? 

Exactly. It's like Burberry boots from Paris being better at keeping out flood water than a pair of wellies from Makro.

[ratcatcher]

58 minutes ago, Dexlowe said:

Sorry, but I don't understand your question and how it relates to the OP.

You wrote " First, how would a group of nondescript students in a third world country be able to develop a product better than the mighty military machines of the world, with their bottomless wells of finance and resources?"

I merely asked why you chose to live in a (your words, )" third world country." It relates to the OP since you refer to the students and their development of a low cost bullet-proof vest. 

[anotheruser]

Joking aside it seems the breakthrough here is that if the price is cheap enough some troops may be able to have them that would otherwise go with out. These things most be a lot more effective than nothing at all. If you are sending me off to some random border skirmish with Cambodia I would rather have one of these than not have it.

[Dexlowe]

6 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

You wrote " First, how would a group of nondescript students in a third world country be able to develop a product better than the mighty military machines of the world, with their bottomless wells of finance and resources?"

I merely asked why you chose to live in a (your words, )" third world country." It relates to the OP since you refer to the students and their development of a low cost bullet-proof vest. 

I don't usually find much to argue with you about, as we're often on the same page. I think anyone can see that I wasn't having a go at the students, but rather pointing up the incongruity of creating a life-saving product that defies the research might of the rest of the world. As pointed out in another post, this vest seems to be a deflector, which can be dangerous, rather than one which stops a bullet from deflecting and thus reduces harm. Perhaps this is the issue we, and the tutors, should be considering. 

[tukkytuktuk]

The only thing with bullet proof vests is that it does nothing to protect you from a head shot.

[anotheruser]

Just now, tukkytuktuk said:

The only thing with bullet proof vests is that it does nothing to protect you from a head shot.

 

Absolutely spot on assessment with what a bullet proof vest does. Generals in modern armies also share that same consensus. This is why they usually give combat troops these thing called helmets.

[williamgeorgeallen]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

That bomb detector was developed by a by a few Brits... so much for bashing Thais.. good luck.. it was a farang scamming Thais (who were probably bribed)

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896

well at least we know the bomb detectors worked. they were built as a scam to get money and they scammed  many people in several countries.  like someone else said there needs to be some videos showing some credible ballistic tests.

[Srikcir]

13 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

we know the bomb detectors worked

It was a fraud, a fake.

But it was still used by the military until June 2016 who reasoned that it was better than having nothing. Prayut said the device was "useful once ... but when they were proven to be useless they were not used anymore".

http://www.thenational.ae/world/southeast-asia/pressure-mounts-on-thai-junta-over-fake-bomb-detectors

[williamgeorgeallen]

1 minute ago, Srikcir said:

It was a fraud, a fake.

But it was still used by the military until June 2016 who reasoned that it was better than having nothing. Prayut said the device was "useful once ... but when they were proven to be useless they were not used anymore".

http://www.thenational.ae/world/southeast-asia/pressure-mounts-on-thai-junta-over-fake-bomb-detectors

you need to read  the rest of my post. the bomb detectors were never built to detect bombs, they were built to scam people out of money. there was nothing inside them. they were a hollow shell.  i am actually amazed how well they worked at scamming people out of money.

[Srikcir]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

lighter and much cheaper than other such products on the Thai market

Maybe should check the Chinese market.

Body armor by Jiangsu Linry Innovation Material Technology Co., Ltd. offering Lightweight Bullet Proof Vest for Police and Military at $80-$200 each. Certified NIJ-STD-0101.06 IIIA which can stop .44 MAG/9mm/.357SIG pistol ammunition, it is the highest level for soft body armor and much better than NIJ-STD-0101.04; made of Kevlar / Tawaron para-aramid ; Dyneema / Spectra / Tac-Tex UHMW-PE UD fabric. http://jslrkj.en.made-in-china.com/product/psjJXQIxsEVD/China-Lightweight-Bullet-Proof-Vest-for-Police-and-Military.html

 

A review of E-Bay and Ali Express shows light weight body amour available at about $40-$80 each.

 

[pentap]

Years of R and D have created the present, optimum, protective vest in use today by forces all over the world, and yet a bunch of Thai university students have developed a lighter and what seems to be claimed, better vest!

It would probably, be more useful, for paint balling!

This has got to be a joke! I'm sorry for sounding so negative but I can't see it's effectiveness.

Does anyone supposed that the SAS or other specialised combat forces will want to wear said vest?

Don't get me wrong, it's good that the students tried but it's the claim, that gets me.


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[chainarong]

Might be a good idea for the students  to keep a few for themselves , they might come in handy over the next 5 years..................................... 

[ChakaKhan]

Just dont aim at the FACE

 

Could hand these out amongst school gangs

 

Or hand out to each new tourist on arrival at airport

 

Yep im looking at you TAT lady....

[Lingba]

2 hours ago, anotheruser said:

Come on now... you don't primarily consider price when buying bullet proof vests? I know when I buy my flack jackets I always think I could pay more but why would I? 

No I don't but we're talking Thailand here...and if they can get away with spending less money...it usually ends up lower quality..."You get what you pay for" applies very strongly here

[dcnx]

7 hours ago, robblok said:

That bomb detector was developed by a by a few Brits... so much for bashing Thais.. good luck.. it was a farang scamming Thais (who were probably bribed)

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896

I forget the idiots name, but one of the generals claimed they worked even after they were proven not to work. He said something along the lines of, "you have to trust me, I know they work." So they kept using them after the fact with more young boys ending up blown to bits because of this <deleted> moron.

 

When the GT-2000 is involved, it's perfectly acceptable to Thai bash. Though they didn't make them, they stood by them even after they were proven not to work at all. 

[dcnx]

"The students said they are going to name their invention Kevlar."

 

[anotheruser]

We should send a contingent of TV posters to various schools and educational institutions to discourage them from even attempting to invent or develop something. 

 

A wise man once said something like this...

 

By the way, what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?

 

 

[oldlakey]

59 minutes ago, anotheruser said:

We should send a contingent of TV posters to various schools and educational institutions to discourage them from even attempting to invent or develop something. 

 

A wise man once said something like this...

 

By the way, what have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?

 

 

You need to walk before you can run, a much better project for them would have been the search for a non-drip teapot

[anotheruser]

3 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

You need to walk before you can run, a much better project for them would have been the search for a non-drip teapot

Sometimes in school the actual project you are working on and it's end result isn't what is important. Many times the thought process involved and learning about how different things interact can be beneficial. 

 

 

[oldlakey]

2 minutes ago, anotheruser said:

Sometimes in school the actual project you are working on and it's end result isn't what is important. Many times the thought process involved and learning about how different things interact can be beneficial. 

 

 

Is that the case then with this latest claim from Thailand

[anotheruser]

3 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Is that the case then with this latest claim from Thailand

 

Could it be what started as a learning project actually worked out in the end? There is nothing to say they don't work. As I said earlier I am probably going to go with a more established name in the bullet proof game for my bullet proof needs. 

 

So far the only verified claim seems to be nothing more than they performed well in a test on some army range. 

[oldlakey]

1 minute ago, anotheruser said:

 

Could it be what started as a learning project actually worked out in the end? There is nothing to say they don't work. As I said earlier I am probably going to go with a more established name in the bullet proof game for my bullet proof needs. 

 

So far the only verified claim seems to be nothing more than they performed well in a test on some army range. 

Well I am not concerned either way, as I have no plans to don even a string vest never mind a bullet proof vest, wherever it hails from

I just found the original claim reasonable amusing because hopefully I have still got a fairly good grip on reality

 

[anotheruser]

Maybe they could give it to some tech review Youtuber to put it on and test it. Let's all chip in and send one to Mymatenate and see if he would try it.

Edited May 2, 2017 by anotheruser

[oldlakey]

1 minute ago, anotheruser said:

Maybe they could give it to some tech review Youtuber to put it on and test it. Let's all chip in and send one to Mymatenate and see if he would try it.

Well I am not going to take one step forwards, but I can see where you are coming from

 

[oobar]

Sheeeeeit! -- 38mm and 45mm bullets.   Those are some frickin'  big projectiles.  Cannon size.  Probably push that bullet-proof vest into and all the way out the back of the wearer's torso and take his spinal cord with it.

[anotheruser]

News flash: Little kids begin to cry when their school project of building a volcano using food color, and baking soda is met by the derision of a group of senile senior citizens online. More at 5.

[lujanit]

Thais invented the cure foe Ebola so why can they not invent a cheap bullet proof vest? Just don't ask me to test it.

[oldlakey]

9 minutes ago, anotheruser said:

News flash: Little kids begin to cry when their school project of building a volcano using food color, and baking soda is met by the derision of a group of senile senior citizens online. More at 5.

Now you are just making it up as you go along aren't you 55555555

[anotheruser]

Just now, oldlakey said:

Now you are just making it up as you go along aren't you 55555555

 

Okay you caught me I admit it. :)