TOT Fiber Extreme promotion. Is it throttled?

[rbkk]

I'm currently with True Fiber (50/20) and i'm fed up with the daily throttling ( 4pm-8pm). Yesterday my wife came home with 2 leaflets from TOT. One is this promotion: http://www.tot.co.th/Promotion/Detail.aspx?id=47730436FDFD422F98906F12F9D77FC2 and the other was 50% off for 6 months from either of the speed options  (12 month contract) if you move to them from another company.. I'm thinking of the 150/30 option which over the 12 months is less than 800 baht a month. It seems like a good price to me. Does anyone know if they are reliable and most importantly do they throttle your speed? At the moment on True I can't use Kodi from 4pm-8pm. I read somewhere that they use the CAT IIG (International gateway). Unfortunately AIS is not an option where I live.Thanks in advance for any feedback.....

[Crossy]

I seem to get >150 Mbps (to Tokyo) on our 200 Mb TOT fibre plan pretty well any time I check it. Just tested at 143.3 down (testmy.net).

 

EDIT 101.5 Mbps to London.

 

No complaints

[rbkk]

Thanks for that. When I speedtest my True 50/20 it's always 50+. but streams on my Kodi  "stutter" (unviewable) between 4pm-8pm. Another member here said they had the same problem as me. I'm sure I'm being throttled. Can anyone shed light on TOT Fiber Extreme and streaming/Kodi?

[Crossy]

I don't use Kodi, but the BBC iPlayer steams fine over my Ivacy VPN (the VPN throttles at 50Mbps).

 

Try a speed test using testmy.net

 

[Jai Dee]

17 minutes ago, rbkk said:

Can anyone shed light on TOT Fiber Extreme and streaming/Kodi?

Check out this topic.

 

It may help your buffering issues.

 

[simoh1490]

Testmy.net tells me my NON fibre TOT connection which is rated at 13 MB is currently pulling only 8 MB! Worst of all, network wake up time is as high as four minutes using FF....

 

I may change supplier!

[rbkk]

4 minutes ago, Jai Dee said:

Check out this topic.

 

It may help your buffering issues.

 

Thanks for that, but I'm already using LAN. I'm using Kodi on my main PC.

[rbkk]

4 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

Testmy.net tells me my NON fibre TOT connection which is rated at 13 MB is currently pulling only 8 MB! Worst of all, network wake up time is as high as four minutes using FF....

 

I may change supplier!

When I had TOT ADSL (Non-fiber) it would always stop working on a Friday afternoon. That's why I'm being careful/researching before returning to TOT.

[rbkk]

43 minutes ago, Crossy said:

I don't use Kodi, but the BBC iPlayer steams fine over my Ivacy VPN (the VPN throttles at 50Mbps).

 

Try a speed test using testmy.net

 

True Fiber (50/20)

 

Testmy.net results....

76Mbps/1.4Mbps

65.5/1.6

58.9/1.6

 

Speedtest.net results....

56.17Mbps/22.47Mbps

 

Kodi streams (BBC/ITV/SKY Sports/Sky Movies/BEIN Sports) from Zem/Fast TV all "stutter" and are unviewable everyday at 4pm-8pm. They load fine and after maybe 20/30 seconds they buffer and then "stutter."

[muratremix]

Of course it is throttled.

They probably throttle cheaper packages even more. You get what you pay for.

[rbkk]

1 hour ago, muratremix said:

Of course it is throttled.

They probably throttle cheaper packages even more. You get what you pay for.

Thanks for responding. Could I ask if you are actually using the TOT Extreme Fiber service? I know it's cheap (TOT) but I understand AIS is also cheap and is not throttled?(not available in my area.) Or perhaps I'm misinformed.

I just want my kids to be able to watch a movie to the end, and the sport on the weekend, without it stopping due to my ISP throttling the line. Any suggestions anyone? I used to have CAT Fiber and that worked well; but at a price. I'm wondering if the TOT Extreme Fiber routing is through CAT IIG (International gateway) and is it throttled so much that streaming using Kodi  is not possible? Or does it work?

[muratremix]

5 hours ago, rbkk said:

Thanks for responding. Could I ask if you are actually using the TOT Extreme Fiber service? I know it's cheap (TOT) but I understand AIS is also cheap and is not throttled?(not available in my area.) Or perhaps I'm misinformed.

I just want my kids to be able to watch a movie to the end, and the sport on the weekend, without it stopping due to my ISP throttling the line. Any suggestions anyone? I used to have CAT Fiber and that worked well; but at a price. I'm wondering if the TOT Extreme Fiber routing is through CAT IIG (International gateway) and is it throttled so much that streaming using Kodi  is not possible? Or does it work?

I don't use tot fiber but I do have 13 mbit tot adsl back in village.

from what I read, tot fiber is heavily throttled (except towards Asia region)

[norbra]

My True fibre 30/10 drops to 5/3 at 8 pm every night,all returns to normal after rebooting the Humax gateway

[abab]

Nobody throttle your speed ! Really difficult to understand that internet is slower when more people use it ?

 

 

[janclaes47]

12 hours ago, rbkk said:

I just want my kids to be able to watch a movie to the end, and the sport on the weekend, without it stopping due to my ISP throttling the line.

You may want to look at the spec of your Android box,. post them here and i can tell you more.

 

If you can't watch a movie that mean you must have a speed something below 3Mb, which I very much doubt, since that would be enough for recorded content.

 

Sports streams from free Kodi addons may indeed buffer, as they are used by thousands of people around the world so the servers get overloaded, and even a 1Gb download speed will not change anything about that.

[Encid]

It looks like TOT have upgraded my Fiber2Home service.

I am paying 700 baht per month for a 20Mbps DL 10Mbps UL connection.

I just performed a speedtest using testmy.net and have 27.3Mbps from Singapore and 6.3 Mbps from London.

 

[KhunBENQ]

1 hour ago, abab said:

Nobody throttle your speed ! Really difficult to understand that internet is slower when more people use it ?

Makes my day!

You are the lone voice in the wilderness

 

I sometimes try to make up some arithmetic about undersea cable capacities (the real backbone of the internet) vs. (million number of users) * (> 100 Mbit/s).

Look at the cable maps!

But I have given up.

 

From the perspective of a single private user:

What the heck are the real world applications/servers that deliver you double digit Mbit/s numbers?

And for what purpose?

100 Mbit/s is good for at least 10 high quality streams simultaneously, 4 "UHD" simultaneously.

 

My real world:

watching German language IPTV on an HD TV "right hand" (about 5 Mbit/s).

hacking on TV forum "left hand" (kilobits).

Sometimes watching 720p videos on youtube "left hand" (3 to 5 Mbit/s?) simultaneously (muting or stopping TV).

Speedmeter topping at about 30 Mbit/s when refilling read ahead buffer for IPTV (18 minutes currently).

[rbkk]

1 hour ago, janclaes47 said:

You may want to look at the spec of your Android box,. post them here and i can tell you more.

 

If you can't watch a movie that mean you must have a speed something below 3Mb, which I very much doubt, since that would be enough for recorded content.

 

Sports streams from free Kodi addons may indeed buffer, as they are used by thousands of people around the world so the servers get overloaded, and even a 1Gb download speed will not change anything about that.

I'm using Kodi for windows, (not Andriod box) on 2 installations. One is on my main PC (Quad core/ 8GB ram/LAN cable) and the other is the wife's laptop to TV (quad core /4GB ram/HDMI cable/wi-fi).

Currently on the TV the kids are watching Aladin on Sky Disney Movies from the Zem/ Fast TV (Shani) add on. It is working perfectly. At about 4pm it will become unwatchable. 

The same with the Sky Sports HD channels. Fine now, but not later. Could you be right and the servers are in the UK and they are waking up and overloading the system?

[janclaes47]

1 hour ago, rbkk said:

I'm using Kodi for windows, (not Andriod box) on 2 installations. One is on my main PC (Quad core/ 8GB ram/LAN cable) and the other is the wife's laptop to TV (quad core /4GB ram/HDMI cable/wi-fi).

Currently on the TV the kids are watching Aladin on Sky Disney Movies from the Zem/ Fast TV (Shani) add on. It is working perfectly. At about 4pm it will become unwatchable. 

The same with the Sky Sports HD channels. Fine now, but not later. Could you be right and the servers are in the UK and they are waking up and overloading the system?

The servers are everywhere in the world but Thailand. They get overloaded at peak times, like when important games are on.

 

Movie servers never get overloaded, but you may switch to a dedicated movie addon like exodus or Specto, as they will also have all those movies.

 

If the movies stop playing at 4pm it is something that influences your internet connection, because as i say movie servers don't get overloaded.

[iang]

I've been using TOT for several years & have always been happy with their prompt & friendly service (CM). Currently running TOT Fiber 50/20 & have never experienced throttling or significant buffering when streaming via Kodi, at any time of the day or night. 

[rbkk]

3 hours ago, iang said:

I've been using TOT for several years & have always been happy with their prompt & friendly service (CM). Currently running TOT Fiber 50/20 & have never experienced throttling or significant buffering when streaming via Kodi, at any time of the day or night. 

Thanks for that, you've answered my question. Another member PM'd me earlier also, and he is on the 80/20 plan (old?) and says the same thing. It seems I can go from 50/20 ( True) to 150/30 (TOT) and save a few baht. A no-brainer. 

I still don't know if True is throttling my connection as the Kodi links again became unusable (movies and sport) . I think it is a server overload. The links are great though until the middle of the afternoon.

5 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

The servers are everywhere in the world but Thailand. They get overloaded at peak times, like when important games are on.

 

Movie servers never get overloaded, but you may switch to a dedicated movie addon like exodus or Specto, as they will also have all those movies.

 

If the movies stop playing at 4pm it is something that influences your internet connection, because as i say movie servers don't get overloaded.

Exodus and Specto on the laptop/TV work well. For some reason though the movies do not load/show up on both Exodus and Specto, on my main PC. I've re-installed them both and they still don't show movies, only TV shows. Odd. 

[janclaes47]

6 minutes ago, rbkk said:

Exodus and Specto on the laptop/TV work well. For some reason though the movies do not load/show up on both Exodus and Specto, on my main PC. I've re-installed them both and they still don't show movies, only TV shows. Odd. 

You don't get this screen when you open Exodus?

 

[rbkk]

I do. Movies it spins and goes to two dots. Nothing. Tv Shows works fine. 

 

On a side note; you kindly helped me with those hidden settings in the Iplayer add-on. It worked fine for a short time, but now seems dead. Could those settings be affecting these movie add-ons?

 

Edit: Channels works and I can see the movies on those channels.

Edited May 5, 2017 by rbkk
more info

[janclaes47]

Just now, rbkk said:

I do. Movies it spins and goes to two dots. Nothing. Tv Shows works fine. 

 

On a side note; you kindly helped me with those hidden settings in the Iplayer add-on. It worked fine for a short time, but now seems dead. Could those settings be affecting these movie add-ons?

Those settings have to be enabled for most streams, but they don't affect the exodus menu, so something must have changed in your settings since BBC Iplayer still works perfect here.Are you on Kodi 17.1?

 

 

 

[rbkk]

The only thing working in the Iplayer app is catergories. I just checked. Yes, Kodi 17.1.

 

[janclaes47]

Just now, rbkk said:

The only thing working in the Iplayer app is catergories. I just checked. Yes, Kodi 17.1.

 

check if there is an update for BBC Iplayer, but that doesn't fix your Exodus of course, may be good idea to reinstall kodi.

[rbkk]

1 minute ago, janclaes47 said:

check if there is an update for BBC Iplayer, but that doesn't fix your Exodus of course, may be good idea to reinstall kodi.

good advice. I was thinking the same thing. Thanks, will do tomorrow.

[janclaes47]

23 minutes ago, rbkk said:

good advice. I was thinking the same thing. Thanks, will do tomorrow.

 

You do have "Unknown sources" enabled in system settings, do you.

 

In Exodus you can click on Tools > clear cache, may be that helps

 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2017 by janclaes47

[rbkk]

16 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

 

You do have "Unknown sources" enabled in system settings, do you.

 

In Exodus you can click on Tools > clear cache, may be that helps

 

 

 

Yes and done (twice). Didn't help unfortunately. The kids are watching a movie on the TV at the moment so I don't want to reset the router, but will tomorrow AM. If that doesn't help I will reinstall Kodi.

[mrwebb8825]

Wasn't sure if I should start a separate thread as I don't want to hijack this 1 but I just moved into a small house and had ToT 80/20 fiber optic wifi installed. The apartment I was living at had 3BB and it kept going out which is why I moved. Now though, everything I was able to do or watch while at the apartment is very laggy (TV shows and online games) so I did a couple of different speed tests and was getting 17 up and 18 down (the same test sites from the apartment showed 2 up 3 down if I was lucky) but the overall performance is degraded.

I called ToT and the guy came out and did a speed test using a server in BKK (my tests were to Singapore) and it showed 79 up 19 down. His explanation was 2-fold as best as I could understand it; 1) all traffic goes to Bangkok and then out to the world so there is a reduction there and 2) the ToT fiber optic network was built to run on 5G but my laptop is only capable of 2.4G and I should get a new laptop.

He even enabled a secondary access for me on the 5G network and my laptop doesn't see it as a wifi source choice.

My laptop is a 6-7 yr old HP Pavilion g4 but I also hooked-up my 3yr old ACER and still no recognition that the 5G access was even there although he was able to access it on his smartphone. Do I really need a new laptop or can my HP be upgraded?