'Enough is enough' PM May says after London attackers kill seven

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'Enough is enough' PM May says after London attackers kill seven

By Guy Faulconbridge and Estelle Shirbon

REUTERS

 

British Prime Minister Theresa May calls for the country to unite after Saturday's (June 3) terrorist attack in London.

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Theresa May said Britain must be tougher in stamping out Islamist extremism after attackers killed at least seven people by ramming a van into pedestrians on London Bridge and stabbing revellers in nearby bars.

 

After the third militant attack in Britain in less than three months, May said Thursday's national election would go ahead. But she proposed regulating cyberspace and said Britain had been far too tolerant of extremism.

 

"It is time to say enough is enough," the Conservative leader said outside her Downing Street office, where British flags flew at half-staff.

"We cannot and must not pretend that things can continue as they are," May said, adding that Britain was under attack from a new breed of crude copycat militants.

 

Islamic State, which is losing territory in Syria and Iraq to an offensive backed by a U.S.-led coalition, said its militants were responsible for the attack, the group's media agency Amaq said in a statement monitored in Cairo.

 

One French national and one Canadian were among those killed. At least 48 people were injured in the attack. Australia said one of its citizens was among the injured.

 

Police shot dead the three male assailants in the Borough Market area near London Bridge within eight minutes of receiving the first emergency call shortly after 10 p.m. (2100 GMT).

 

Mark Rowley, head of counter-terrorism police, said eight officers had fired about 50 bullets to stop the attackers, who appeared to be suicide bombers because they were wearing what turned out to be fake suicide vests.

 

"The situation these officers were confronted with was critical: a matter of life and death," Rowley said. "I am humbled by the bravery of an officer who will rush towards a potential suicide bomber thinking only of protecting others."

 

A member of the public received non-critical gunshot wounds. Police did not release the names of the attackers.

 

London police arrested 12 people in the Barking district of east London in connection with the attack and raids were continuing there, the force said. A Reuters photographer saw another raid take place in nearby East Ham.

 

Less than two weeks ago, a suicide bomber killed 22 children and adults at a concert by U.S. singer Ariana Grande in Manchester in northern England. In March, in a attack similar to Saturday's, five people died after a man drove into pedestrians on Westminster Bridge in central London and stabbed a policeman.

 

May said the series of attacks were not connected in terms of planning and execution, but were inspired by what she called a "single, evil ideology of Islamist extremism" that represented a perversion of Islam and of the truth.

 

She said this ideology had to be confronted both abroad and at home, adding that the internet and big internet companies provided the space for such extremism to breed.

 

Facebook said it wanted to make its social media platform a "hostile environment" for terrorists. Twitter also said it was working to tackle the spread of militant propaganda.

 

After the Manchester attack, Britain raised its threat level to "critical" - meaning an attack is expected imminently - but downgraded it back to "severe", which means an attack is highly likely, on May 27.

 

HARROWING SCENES

 

Witnesses described harrowing scenes as the attackers' white van veered on and off the bridge sidewalk, hitting people along the way, and the three men then ran into an area packed with bars and restaurants, stabbing people indiscriminately.

 

Accounts emerged of people trying to barricade themselves in a pub while others tried throwing tables and other objects to fend off the attackers.

 

One eyewitness said the attackers screamed "this is for Allah" as they stabbed people.

 

England's health authority said on Sunday afternoon that 36 of those injured remained in hospital, of whom 21 were in a critical condition.

 

May made a private visit to staff and patients at King's College Hospital, where some of the injured were being treated, a spokeswoman said.

The government announced that a nationwide minute of silence would be held at 1000 GMT on Tuesday to pay respect to the victims of the attack and flags would remain at half-mast on government buildings until Tuesday evening.

 

A Reuters photographer saw four women being removed from an apartment block in Barking, shielding their faces as they stepped into police vans.

 

Islamic State militants had sent out a call on instant messaging service Telegram early on Saturday urging its followers to carry out attacks with trucks, knives and guns against "Crusaders" during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

 

Islamist militants have carried out scores of deadly attacks in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Asia and the United States over the past two years.

 

"We believe we are experiencing a new trend in the threat we face as terrorism breeds terrorism," May said.

 

"Perpetrators are inspired to attack not only on the basis of carefully constructed plots ... and not even as lone attackers radicalised online, but by copying one another and often using the crudest of means of attack."

 

"TOLERANCE OF EXTREMISM"

 

May, who served as Britain's interior minister from 2010 to 2016, said there was too much tolerance of extremism in Britain.

 

"While we have made significant progress in recent years, there is - to be frank - far too much tolerance of extremism in our country," she said, urging Britons to be more robust in stamping it out in the public sector and in wider society.

 

Opposition Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said Britain needed to have difficult conversations with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states about the funding of Islamist extremism.

 

U.S. President Donald Trump, taking to Twitter on Sunday, urged the world to stop being "politically correct" in order to ensure public security against terrorism.

 

Most of the main political parties suspended election campaigning on Sunday, but May said this would resume on Monday. The anti-European Union UK Independence Party said it would not suspend its campaign because disrupting democracy was what the extremists wanted.

 

London Bridge is a transport hub and nearby Borough Market is a fashionable warren of alleyways leavened with bars and restaurants that is always bustling on a Saturday night.

 

The area remained cordoned off and patrolled by armed police and counter-terrorism officers on Sunday, with train stations closed. Forensic investigators could be seen working on the bridge, where buses and taxis stood abandoned.

 

At several points outside the cordon, people laid flowers and messages of grief and solidarity.

 

Ariana Grande and other music stars were giving a benefit concert at Manchester's Old Trafford cricket ground on Sunday evening to raise funds for victims of the concert bombing and their families.

 

"Today's One Love Manchester benefit concert will not only continue, but will do so with greater purpose," Grande's manager, Scooter Braun, said on Twitter after the London attack.

 

London Mayor Sadiq Khan said the official threat level in Britain remained at severe, meaning a militant attack is highly likely. It had been raised to critical after the Manchester attack, then lowered again days later.

 

"One of the things we can do is show that we aren't going to be cowed is by voting on Thursday and making sure that we understand the importance of our democracy, our civil liberties and our human rights," Khan said.

 

In tweets, Trump offered help to Britain but also levelled apparent criticism of Khan for saying there was no need to be alarmed. Khan had earlier said Londoners would see an increased police presence on the streets of the city and people should not be alarmed by that.

 

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Emmanuel Macron and Russian President Vladimir Putin were among those who sent messages of condolence and made statements of solidarity.

 

The Manchester bombing on May 22 was the deadliest attack in Britain since July 2005, when four British Muslim suicide bombers killed 52 people in coordinated assaults on London's transport network.

 

(Additional reporting by UK bureau, Dylan Martinez, Hannah McKay, William Schomberg, Elisabeth O'Leary, William James, Andy Bruce and Alistair Smout in London, Marine Pennetier in Paris, Steve Scherer in Rome, Polina Devitt in Moscow, Paul Carrel in Berlin, David Morgan in Washington and Mostafa Hashem in Cairo; writing by Estelle Shirbon, Pravin Char and Guy Faulconbridge; editing by Ralph Boulton and Angus MacSwan)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-06-05

[colinneil]

So May says enough is enough

More usless talk, time to get your finger out woman, past time for action.

Security services say there are 3000 extremists in the UK.

Why are they still there? long past time for something to be done.

How many more innocent lives have to be lost ,before someting is done?. 

[habanero]

London terror attack: British officials eye burka bans and stripping citizenship

 

As long as there are no travel bans.  That would be too Trumpest...............

[ezzra]

The UK thought that they will be immune from such attacks after opening their country to millions of Muslims to make GB their home...

as they say that no good deeds goes unpunished, British people are waking up to the fifth column in their midst and that nothing is safe now.....

[johna]

May's response is typical of a PC culture, regulate the Internet,  more restrictions on freedom of speech. In practice, that means Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkin's will now be targetted for telling the truth.

[chrisinth]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

So May says enough is enough

More usless talk, time to get your finger out woman, past time for action.

Security services say there are 3000 extremists in the UK.

Why are they still there? long past time for something to be done.

How many more innocent lives have to be lost ,before someting is done?. 

 

First point in your comments, Security services did not say there are 3,000 extremists in the UK, what they did say was that this number is in a different monitoring tier to the other tens of thousands that are in their databases.

 

As to why they are still here, they are here because of laws that we the people, or rather our democratically elected representatives have ironically made for the protection of our societies. Laws that were naively made to maintain human rights. These very laws protect the guilty as well as the innocent. Even if found guilty by British law, there is always the option of the leniency of the European courts to appeal to.

 

The reason I emphasize on the above is the fact that most of the animals are home grown, not people on away-days from Syria, Libia, etc, etc. It is just another kick in the teeth to the British public, another tool used by the terrorist to spread distrust among communities. 

 

IMO, one of many points that need to be addressed is the definition of'Human Rights' and at what point do these animals forfeit these rights? Establish this, and you are half-way to taking a course of action.

Edited June 5, 2017 by chrisinth

[colinneil]

Just now, chrisinth said:

 

First point in your comments, Security services did not say there are 3,000 extremists in the UK, what they did say was that this number is in a different monitoring tier to the other tens of thousands that are in their databases.

 

As to why they are still here, they are here because of laws that we the people, or rather our democratically elected representatives have ironically made for the protection of our societies. Laws that were naively made to maintain human rights. These very laws protect the guilty as well as the innocent. Even if found guilty by British law, there is always the option of the leniency of the European courts to appeal to.

 

IMO, one of many points that need to be addressed is the definition of'Human Rights' and at what point do these animals forfeit these rights? Establish this, and you are half-way to taking a course of action.

 

 

 

 

 

So you are saying the BBC made up that story about the security services said there were 3000 o a watch list.

[oxo1947]

  Yes enough is enough --says the lady who also said that we have far to many police and in a cost cutting move sacked 20,000 of them --even though she was warned it left the UK under protected to just this sort of attack.

The bottom line was all about £ £ £

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by oxo1947

[chrisinth]

4 minutes ago, colinneil said:

 

 

 

 

 

So you are saying the BBC made up that story about the security services said there were 3000 o a watch list.

 

I am saying that the original quote from the police was that the figures were closer to 27,000 than 3,000 that were in the database. Calling the said 3,000 as being on a watchlist is inaccurate as the British police forces, even backed by security forces and intelligence services do not have the resources to 'watch' them all. They are on a different tier of monitoring.

[williamgeorgeallen]

ok, enough is enough but whats the answer?  japan has a very effective policy but it is too late for that. even thailand has a good policy of not giving out citizenship very easily. many grumble but i agree with it. put people on long term visas and kick them out if there is any trouble. if a number of people in one religious center make a problem close that center down.

[darksidedog]

Personally, I think it is time to pull the 3,000 top people of interest in for about 20 years of questioning. That should remove large chunks of the problem.

[phantomfiddler]

To make someone stop doing something , there has to be a deterrent. Presently there is none ! These brainwashed idiots think they are going to wake up surrounded by an assortment of virgins and goats, but what if they were made to realize they were doomed to a life of hell, encased in pigfat and strips of bacon sticking out of their ears ? It worked for 150 years in India when bullets were lubricated with cowfat, barring the reciprient from the promised land !

[ilostmypassword]

London terror attack: Government 'lied' about police numbers before atrocity, former chief inspector claims

A former Metropolitan Police chief has accused the government of "lying" about the number of armed officers on the streets, during an interview in the wake of the London terror attack.

 

Peter Kirkham, a chief inspector between 1981 and 2002, claimed that the Met was "in crisis" in an interview with Sky News, saying the "extra" officers on the streets were actually officers putting in 16-hour shifts or working on "rare leave days".

However the Conservatives said the Government was "providing record funding for counter terror policing", adding that crime had fallen by a third since 2010.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-terror-attack-peter-kirkham-michael-fallon-armed-police-terrorism-london-attack-latest-a7771976.html

[ilostmypassword]

1 minute ago, phantomfiddler said:

To make someone stop doing something , there has to be a deterrent. Presently there is none ! These brainwashed idiots think they are going to wake up surrounded by an assortment of virgins and goats, but what if they were made to realize they were doomed to a life of hell, encased in pigfat and strips of bacon sticking out of their ears ? It worked for 150 years in India when bullets were lubricated with cowfat, barring the reciprient from the promised land !

Bullets lubricated with cowfat? So  you mean those bullets were meant for Hindus?

[DickThrust]

May "enough is enough" and she "is expected to introduce control orders for terror suspects". She is preparing the public for interment - and not before time.

 

How on earth the great British public is showing such restraint and mosques aren’t burning is a real testament to the character of the nation. When the wimpy and out of touch politicians finally tell us that the Third World War is upon us then maybe something really concrete is put in place to keep the public safe.

Angela Merkel will go down in history as committing the worst decision of the 21st century by welcoming 2.5 million (mainly) Muslims into Europe – a massive Trojan Horse. Of course most of them will not be terrorists but they will spawn disaffected individuals when they realize that the “land of milk and honey” is not as rosy as they thought it would be.

 

My only relief is that a brexit Britain will not be burdened with the problems that will arise in a generation’s time caused by Merkel’s folly.

 

Sorry folks very unpalatable I know but….enough is enough.

[sujoop]

While some will be pleased to see PM May using tougher 'language' (which she hopes will appease/appeal to the pro-brexit/anti-Muslim voter), it would be helpful if she backed that up with firmer support of the Police.

 

Red Line = Theresa May Becomes Home Secretary

 

Complete respect and kudos to the stretched to the limit Met Police for the breathtaking speed and courage which they displayed in dispatching these deranged Islamist extremist cowards.

[timkeen08]

 japan has a very effective policy but it is too late for that. even thailand has a good policy of not giving out citizenship very easily. many grumble but i agree with it. put people on long term visas and kick them out if there is any trouble.

In reference to other countries policies and citizenship : FYI, Naturalized American citizens can have their citizenship recended and then can be deported. Native born American citizens cannot, just prison time or death penalty. No flogging allowed for either.

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[PremiumLane]

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

The UK thought that they will be immune from such attacks after opening

their country to millions of Muslims to make GB their home...

as they say that no good deeds goes unpunished, British people are waking

up to the fifth column in their midst and that nothing is safe now.....

Where to start with this drivel. Muslims have been living in the UK for decades, many have fought in World Wars for us and serve today. The vast majority of British Muslims condemn these attacks. You are as bad as the extemists you say you are against, two sides of the same coin. 

 

And why are May and her marry band of idiots in government selling arms and providing money to Saudi,  who fund ISIS. Let's start looking there first.

[lovelomsak]

A Canadian got killed in the last London attack. Until now it was Europeans we had no say. But now it is personal and we can speak and be heard for we suffer also.

Enough is enough is putting it mildly. Time go fight back and do the Duterte..Do the same as Duterte did in the drug war in the Philippines. Open up the right to hunt down and kill terrorist by any one who chooses to do so.until they are gone.

[ilostmypassword]

1 hour ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

ok, enough is enough but whats the answer?  japan has a very effective policy but it is too late for that. even thailand has a good policy of not giving out citizenship very easily. many grumble but i agree with it. put people on long term visas and kick them out if there is any trouble. if a number of people in one religious center make a problem close that center down.

If you mean Japan makes it hard to immigrate, that comes at a cost to their economy. Especially for the near future.

[habanero]

1 hour ago, chrisinth said:

 

First point in your comments, Security services did not say there are 3,000 extremists in the UK, what they did say was that this number is in a different monitoring tier to the other tens of thousands that are in their databases.

 

As to why they are still here, they are here because of laws that we the people, or rather our democratically elected representatives have ironically made for the protection of our societies. Laws that were naively made to maintain human rights. These very laws protect the guilty as well as the innocent. Even if found guilty by British law, there is always the option of the leniency of the European courts to appeal to.

 

The reason I emphasize on the above is the fact that most of the animals are home grown, not people on away-days from Syria, Libia, etc, etc. It is just another kick in the teeth to the British public, another tool used by the terrorist to spread distrust among communities. 

 

IMO, one of many points that need to be addressed is the definition of'Human Rights' and at what point do these animals forfeit these rights? Establish this, and you are half-way to taking a course of action.

Excellent post.

[Khun Han]

18 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

Where to start with this drivel. Muslims have been living in the UK for decades, many have fought in World Wars for us and serve today. The vast majority of British Muslims condemn these attacks. You are as bad as the extemists you say you are against, two sides of the same coin. 

 

And why are May and her marry band of idiots in government selling arms and providing money to Saudi,  who fund ISIS. Let's start looking there first.

 

Firstly, let's see how the UK muslim community really responds to these sustained attacks. I'm optimistic about this.

 

Secondly, May is between a rock and a hard place wrt the Saudis, as is Trump, as have been all our western politicians for a long time. Remember where most of Bin Laden's family were when the Twin Towers were struck? May has quite rightly raised her flag on the anti-globalist brexit mast. And that's why the globalist media are making their utterly disingenuous character assassinations on her whilst bigging up the hapless Corbyn. If Corbyn, god forbid, gets the 'reins', he will quickly backtrack on Saudi or quickly perish.

[PremiumLane]

Just now, Khun Han said:

 

Firstly, let's see how the UK muslim community really responds to these sustained attacks. I'm optimistic about this.

 

Secondly, May is between a rock and a hard place wrt the Saudis, as is Trump, as have been all our western politicians for a long time. Remember where most of Bin Laden's family were when the Twin Towers were struck? May has quite rightly raised her flag on the anti-globalist brexit mast. And that's why the globalist media are making their utterly disingenuous character assassinations on her whilst bigging up the hapless Corbyn. If Corbyn, god forbid, gets the 'reins', he will quickly backtrack on Saudi or quickly perish.

Huge demonstration last week by thousand so British Muslims condemning violence, plus press statements by British Muslim associations condemning the attacks in Manchester.  Oh, and the Muslim communities in Manchester warned the authorities about that guy and said he was an extremist. That OK for a start?

[williamgeorgeallen]

45 minutes ago, timkeen08 said:

In reference to other countries policies and citizenship : FYI, Naturalized American citizens can have their citizenship recended and then can be deported. Native born American citizens cannot, just prison time or death penalty. No flogging allowed for either.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
 

interesting to know. i thought to get an american citizenship you had to give up your other one. how can they then deport them if that is correct?

[ilostmypassword]

5 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

interesting to know. i thought to get an american citizenship you had to give up your other one. how can they then deport them if that is correct?

It can be rescinded if it was shown that they lied on their application. Which would make their citizenship invalid.And even then, it can't be rescinded for harmless lies or inaccuracies as the Supreme Court recently ruled.  It can't be rescinded as a punishment.

Edited June 5, 2017 by ilostmypassword

[DickThrust]

Terrorism in the west is a muslim problem. It is complete BS to suggest that families/friends have no inclination that one of their own has been radicalised. How long are we going to have to put up with this weak liberal crap.

[Khun Han]

13 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

Huge demonstration last week by thousand so British Muslims condemning violence, plus press statements by British Muslim associations condemning the attacks in Manchester.  Oh, and the Muslim communities in Manchester warned the authorities about that guy and said he was an extremist. That OK for a start?

 

Yes, it's very ok. And I'm optimistic that our muslim coomunities will be even more vigilant and expose even more extremists. Let's hope that the authorities act on this info from now on. These scumbags need taking out of circulation through internment before they get the chance to act. I know that that they bully and intimidate their communities, which will breathe sighs of relief once those scumbags are gone.

[sujoop]

33 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

54 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

Huge demonstration last week by thousand so British Muslims condemning violence, plus press statements by British Muslim associations condemning the attacks in Manchester.  Oh, and the Muslim communities in Manchester warned the authorities about that guy and said he was an extremist. That OK for a start?

 

Yes, it's very ok. And I'm optimistic that our muslim coomunities will be even more vigilant and expose even more extremists. Let's hope that the authorities act on this info from now on. These scumbags need taking out of circulation through internment before they get the chance to act. I know that that they bully and intimidate their communities, which will breathe sighs of relief once those scumbags are gone.

Some good points.. A few more ideas:

 

More resources are needed at home to investigate plus follow-up & monitor  potential extremists who are reported to the authorities via tip lines and others. Also, sure, make tougher laws stating immigrants can be deported without actually blowing anything up, or attacking anyone, if proven to have either planned, or supported/approved of terrorists acts either online or verbally.
 

WE also need to ensure that 'we' are not potentially alienating the community we need cooperation from or  incentivising more recruits by blaming 'ALL Muslims' or 'ALL Islam' or saying it's time to attack mosques etc  etc etc (this is exactly how the terrorists want you to react, thus create even more terrorists, do not help them please)
 

Plus the leaders of the Muslim world must do a LOT more to alienate and expunge  extremist Islamist terrorists from within. Particularly the SAUDIS / Sunnis as the #1 source of terrorist origins must take similar and constant action (and also stop funding extremist religious schools/madrases and regional militant proxy groups). UK & US etc should make every trade deal hinge on this and bring it up at every state visit.

 

The following video was launched just before Ramadam in Kuwait and has since gone viral. Extremist Islamist terrorists will hate it because of its peaceful message and also the extreme 'anti-ALL-Muslims' contingent will likely find reasons to hate it too.  It's only a video of course but a step in the right direction.

 

Last and once again, complete respect and admiration goes to the Met Police for their incredibly rapid, courageous and effective response. We need to ensure the frontline Police have more resources and boots on the beat in London and all cities. Enough of the 'enough is enough' tough-talk bluster when juxtaposed against a reality having a lengthy history of creating Police redundancies...

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by sujoop

[Sydebolle]

So much to tolerance. Don't get me wrong but start by booting Sadiq Khan out of office with immediate effect. Not, because he is a Muslim but his statement last year that the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” is simply and utterly unacceptable. He went further on and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

As long as one side of the game, field, battle, name-it-what-you-want is to be played according to the rules (tolerance, political correctness, law limitations etc.) while the other party can go wild at will - you will NEVER get rule and order back, be it in London, then the UK, in Europe or anywhere else for that matter.

 

According to other sources (UKIP Nigel Farage) there are 3'500 other immigrants on the watch list, i.e. the authorities know of these fellows and follow them.

Change the law and declare terrorism in any form as an attack on the state. Anybody profoundly suspected or actually threatening the state is to be booted out immediately, which will create some collateral damage - so be it. Any naturalized UK citizen suspected is to get the UK citizenship revoked and kicked out again. UK citizens are to be dealt with fast-lane procedures, it cannot be that the authorities drag feet for years.

You don't have to introduce the death sentence again; these valuable citizens blow themselves up - as we see - or shot by the police at the scene. 

I appeal on the United Kingdom to take their matters back into their own hands - before it is too late. 

[pgrahmm]

5 hours ago, colinneil said:

So May says enough is enough

More usless talk, time to get your finger out woman, past time for action.

Security services say there are 3000 extremists in the UK.

Why are they still there? long past time for something to be done.

How many more innocent lives have to be lost ,before someting is done?. 

The curtain is closing rapidly.....Words/PC doesn't work....Action required NOW or all is lost & the Trojan Horse has won.....