Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Hi TVers, I just bought a 2017 Fortuner and I would like to change my RIMs to the TRD Sportivo 20. My OEM's are 18'' and Tires are from Bridgestone. I am offered the TRD Sportivo RIMs with standard Dunlop 20'' for an extra 10,000THB I can upgrade to Toyo or Yokohama's Tires Which Tires should I go for? Dunlop with no extra cost? or Toyo or Yokohama? Thanks for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just bought Dunlop for my bike. 1/2 the price of Pirelli & Michelin's etc. Car tyres are all the same IMO some wear out quicker, some are quiet on road all that's important is the correct pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 I am trying to find information on google but all i got are reviews from online magazines or the company themselves. Would prefer real experience from the drivers and motorist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I heard Continental is the best. But 20inch for fortuner will be lower profile so tyre might not be as durable. Why not stick to 18 and change the rims? You can still use the factory fitted Tires which are quite new. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Moonmoon said: Would prefer real experience from the drivers and motorist I'm a experience car user too and personally l wouldn't pay 10,000 extra for tyres in Thailand the charges for the other makes are because they are not made in Thailand. If you go for other makes check the manufacture dates. 23 minutes ago, Moonmoon said: My OEM's are 18'' and Tires are from Bridgestone. Again personally for ride comfort l'd stay with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 People have reported that Bridgestones harden up here over time....Which was also a problem we found in the US with them when the climate went from snow in the winter to hot summers....Winter performance got slippery.... I wanted Michelin tires but an unpleasant sales guy made me not want to buy from him.... I bought a set of Yokohama Geolanders instead.... They've performed well enough that we now have them on 2 vehicles (suv's).....They are evidently made here which takes away any applicable import taxes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, shady86 said: I heard Continental is the best. But 20inch for fortuner will be lower profile so tyre might not be as durable. Why not stick to 18 and change the rims? You can still use the factory fitted Tires which are quite new. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk The TRD's sportivo rims for this model comes only in 20inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, pgrahmm said: They are evidently made here which takes away any applicable import taxes.... So why do they want to charge OP 10,000 baht extra don't makes sense in anyway shape or tyre form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Kwasaki said: I'm a experience car user too and personally l wouldn't pay 10,000 extra for tyres in Thailand the charges for the other makes are because they are not made in Thailand. If you go for other makes check the manufacture dates. Again personally for ride comfort l'd stay with them. I am offered brand new tires which have never touched the road b4 according to the sales rep. He will let me check the manufactured dates. right now Personally I am quite comfortable with my OEMS and Tires as well. My WIFE WANTS THE SPORTY LOOK so she wants me to change them. She is paying for the RIMS LOL woohooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, Kwasaki said: So why do they want to charge OP 10,000 baht extra don't makes sense in anyway shape or tyre form. according to the sales, the Dunlops are standard tires, but the Yoko's and Toyo's are of a premium grade. Are there different grades within the brands itself? like Yoko maybe have standard to premium grade tires. Should I ask for more info on the "premium" grade tires offered so everyone can kindly help me decide :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Moonmoon said: I am offered brand new tires which have never touched the road b4 according to the sales rep. He will let me check the manufactured dates. right now Personally I am quite comfortable with my OEMS and Tires as well. My WIFE WANTS THE SPORTY LOOK so she wants me to change them. She is paying for the RIMS LOL woohooo! OK l'll bail out of this thread, as they say here " up to you " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: OK l'll bail out of this thread, as they say here " up to you " why? Kawasaki you have been helpful so far! thanks for the advice you have given me. appreciate it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I'm gonna get the popcorn out, because at the end of this thread the OP will have had more brands suggested as he even asked for, and be more confused than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 This is the Toyo tire offered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: I'm gonna get the popcorn out, because at the end of this thread the OP will have had more brands suggested as he even asked for, and be more confused than ever. I only have 3 options. Dunlop, Toyo and Yoko's. There definitely alot in the Market. My present Brio went from a Michelin (lasted almost 4years) to a cheaper Goodyear. Honestly I feel they are the same. As this Fortuner is my 2nd Car. I still don't have much experience with regards to this. So any advice is sincerely welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, shady86 said: I heard Continental is the best. But 20inch for fortuner will be lower profile so tyre might not be as durable. Why not stick to 18 and change the rims? You can still use the factory fitted Tires which are quite new. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk can i use 18'' tires for a 20 inch rim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Moonmoon said: Are there different grades within the brands itself? Sales hype but sorter " Yes " but as l said some tyres can be quieter on the road when going to a lower profile. From memory l believe it's Yokohama that are quiet, that would be important to me. I can see there is gonna be lots of different opinions posted whatever tyre a person has got there the best. The F1 Goodyear on directional tyres on my wife's Yaris are amazing but noisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Moonmoon said: can i use 18'' tires for a 20 inch rim? No 18" means rim size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Sales hype but sorter " Yes " but as l said some tyres can be quieter on the road when going to a lower profile. From memory l believe it's Yokohama that are quiet, that would be important to me. I can see there is gonna be lots of different opinions posted whatever tyre a person has got there the best. The F1 Goodyear on directional tyres on my wife's Yaris are amazing but noisy. currently the bridgestones on the fortuner are pretty quiet and comfy. I like this feel very much. If Yokohama's are like what you advice, I would want to go for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, Moonmoon said: I only have 3 options. Dunlop, Toyo and Yoko's. There definitely alot in the Market. My present Brio went from a Michelin (lasted almost 4years) to a cheaper Goodyear. Honestly I feel they are the same. As this Fortuner is my 2nd Car. I still don't have much experience with regards to this. So any advice is sincerely welcomed. Your right but again your choice going from 18 to 20 means lower profile as l would think you know. Never tried Yoko's only heard about them, 10,000 or free what do you want. Bridgestone, Dunlop & Michelin are race tyre suppliers dunno about the other makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Moonmoon said: currently the bridgestones on the fortuner are pretty quiet and comfy. I like this feel very much. If Yokohama's are like what you advice, I would want to go for this. I like Bridgestone as l've said can't help you on a Yoko's ride. A lower profile you may well notice a difference, that will only be revealed when you make your choice. Let us know the out come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 This is the Toyo tire offeredI'm not sure if comfort is your priority but trust me, going from 65 to 50 tyre reduces the tyre width and you sacrifice comfort for looks. Your ride will get much bumpier especially on normal Thai roads. And you might want to forget going off road because the chances of tyre and rim damage are much higher with lower profile tyre. I would suggest that you test drive a fortuner fitted with 20inch before deciding. Regarding of brand, I would pay extra 10k for Dunlop, I don't think you will feel much difference, maybe less tyre noise. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, Kwasaki said: Your right but again your choice going from 18 to 20 means lower profile as l would think you know. Never tried Yoko's only heard about them, 10,000 or free what do you want. Bridgestone, Dunlop & Michelin are race tyre suppliers dunno about the other makes. FREE!!!!! Dunlop, Bridgestone and Michelin are household names which I see everywhere. Even someone with as little of experience as me has seen them all around growing up till now. Personally I wouldn't want to spend more tires already. Anyways the TRD RIMS are 79,000Baht. Turning in my 18'' OEM and Tires are valued at 31,000Baht So the Dunlops + TRD RIMs are 79,000Baht - 31,000Baht = 48,000Baht. Quite Ex I know, but the Wife wants em and she's paying so ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, shady86 said: I'm not sure if comfort is your priority but trust me, going from 65 to 50 tyre reduces the tyre width and you sacrifice comfort for looks. Your ride will get much bumpier especially on normal Thai roads. And you might want to forget going off road because the chances of tyre and rim damage are much higher with lower profile tyre. I would suggest that you test drive a fortuner fitted with 20inch before deciding. Regarding of brand, I would pay extra 10k for Dunlop, I don't think you will feel much difference, maybe less tyre noise. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Thanks! the Dunlops are cheaper than the Toyos and Yokohama's by 10,000baht. I am not gonna go off-road at all.. Just driving around Samut Prakan and maybe to the provinces for holidays thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 The 20" Dunlops came on my wife's 'tuna, and they drive nice, but they do seem to be more of a sport tire than a comfort tire. They are pretty quiet .Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, mogandave said: The 20" Dunlops came on my wife's 'tuna, and they drive nice, but they do seem to be more of a sport tire than a comfort tire. They are pretty quiet . Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, shady86 said: I'm not sure if comfort is your priority but trust me, going from 65 to 50 tyre reduces the tyre width and you sacrifice comfort for looks. Your ride will get much bumpier especially on normal Thai roads. And you might want to forget going off road because the chances of tyre and rim damage are much higher with lower profile tyre. I would suggest that you test drive a fortuner fitted with 20inch before deciding. Regarding of brand, I would pay extra 10k for Dunlop, I don't think you will feel much difference, maybe less tyre noise. Good advice only it's tyre height that's different & the Dun's are free. Apart from mods my wife's Yaris with low profiles l run 4 psi less than recomemded otherwise it's like sitting on a bowling ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Parada spec-x may be worth a look too. http://www.yokohamathailand.com/Products/parada-specx.asp I'd stick with 18" but get some nice rims and tires. The sportivo 20" wheels have a shorter sidewall tire and may be a little harsher than when on 18". Get some ironman foam cell comfort shocks for better ride comfort on sealed roads. These are available in Thailand. http://www.ironman4x4.com/category-products/suspension/shock-absorbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I'm not sure if comfort is your priority but trust me, going from 65 to 50 tyre reduces the tyre width and you sacrifice comfort for looks. Your ride will get much bumpier especially on normal Thai roads. And you might want to forget going off road because the chances of tyre and rim damage are much higher with lower profile tyre. I would suggest that you test drive a fortuner fitted with 20inch before deciding. Regarding of brand, I would pay extra 10k for Dunlop, I don't think you will feel much difference, maybe less tyre noise. Sent from my SM-G935F using TapatalkI think going from 65 to 50 reduces the profile not the width.A 225 x 65 is the same width as a 225 x 50Width X second number = profileA 225 x 65 / 16 is taller than a 225 x 50 / 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Thanks! the Dunlops are cheaper than the Toyos and Yokohama's by 10,000baht. I am not gonna go off-road at all.. Just driving around Samut Prakan and maybe to the provinces for holidays thats all.Sorry I mean wouldn't want to pay extra 10k but if money is not an issue, I would go for Yokohama Geolanders. It will be ok driving on motorways but if your area has lots of holes and bumps, you might want to think twice. Also you might want to consider changing your spare too because you can't drive far in case you need to change due to different rim and profile. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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