Education plan ‘will fail without broad support’

[rooster59]

Education plan ‘will fail without broad support’

By Chularat Saengpassa
The Nation

 

 

THERE IS no guarantee that the new national education strategy, which has already come into force in paper, will fully take effect in practice.

 

After introducing the new national education strategy at a recent forum, Education Council secretary-general Kamol Rodklai later admitted that the implementation of the strategy would depend on support from relevant parties. 

 

“I joined the forum on the new national education strategy in the hope of winning support. Without support, such a strategy will never be able to deliver any tangible results,” he said. 

 

Thailand has previously drawn up national education strategies with implementation planned over long periods of time. The latest strategy is scheduled for implementation between 2017 and 2036.

 

Kamol, who previously served as the secretary-general of the Office of Basic Education Commission (Obec), admitted that he had often seen how educational agencies had drawn up their own plans and paid just lukewarm attention to national education strategies. 

 

“On top of this, school directors and teachers have simply ignored such strategies. Without their contributions, Thailand’s national education strategies have not achieved their intended results to date,” Kamol said. 

 

When compared with the education minister’s policies, Kamol admitted that the national education strategies – which are supposed to serve as the blueprint for the country’s educational development – had received less attention. 

 

“Because of the limitation of their terms, education ministers have usually focused on parts of the educational system only. Their policies are not about overhauling the system once and for all because such big projects will not have evident results during their terms,” he said.

 

Kamol said he hoped political office holders would place an emphasis on improving the whole system, not just parts of it, and ensuring continuity of work in the future. 

 

“I have seen good signs lately. The government has now agreed to focus more on the long-term aspects of educational development,” he said. 

 

If all relevant parties support the new national education strategy, he said, one in four teachers will become “new breed” teachers with novel and effective ways of teaching within the next five years. 

 

“We will have more specialised schools such as sports schools and science schools. Thai students’ performance in the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA) will also improve,” he said. 

 

Kamol said he believed strong contributions could be expected if carrot-and-stick measures were in place. 

 

“The problem is that we have hardly used any punishment in driving educational development. As for now, I just hope that we get someone with solid charisma and stature to drive reform,” he said. 

 

Kamol said he had relied on his personal authority in gaining support for the national educational strategy, as the secretary-general of the Education Council did not have direct authority to force relevant parties to support the strategy.

 

Narong Buddhichiwin, a former deputy chairman of the National Reform Council’s committee on educational reform, said people should not see the national education plan as something to be shelved. 

 

“Instead, as parties involved in the country’s education, you should apply it to your plan, be you at a provincial level, a more local level or a school level,” he said. 

 

He said without integration, the national education strategy would fail. 

 

Phuket Mayor Somjai Suwansupana said her municipality had arranged educational services based on the country’s new national education strategy.

 

“We have also worked with all stakeholders in ensuring that educational services match needs and situations,” she said. 

 

She added that her municipality had developed an IT database to share resources and drive educational efforts in the same direction with contributions from all sectors. 

 

“With such a system, we know who has dropped out and how to solve dropout problems,” she said.

 

She said she was confident that graduates from her municipality schools would be able to secure seats at higher-education institutes.

 

“I also have confidence that they will have the skills needed in the labour market,” she added.

 

Pratak Tipchit, a schoolteacher from Surat Thani province, said he hoped educational services would focus on ethics as much as job-related skills. 

“Persons with capabilities but without ethics will only cause crises for the country, after all,” he said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/sunday/parenting_education/30318195

 

 

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[canuckamuck]

Observing our kids school I feel that they are giving proper priority to the three R's: Coloring, Copying, Correct uniforms, Conformity and Ceremony,.

Oh sorry, that's the five C's

[shanesox]

"Hoped educational services would focus on ethics ?" Don't need schools for that. It would be a first !


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[darksidedog]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Education plan ‘will fail without broad support’

This is Thailand. The education plan will fail. Fullstop.

[mikebell]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

“Persons with capabilities but without ethics will only cause crises for the country, after all,”

But schools are merely businesses; unprincipled principals base their educational decisions on how much money can I make for me first; school second?  The actual students come a long way down this list.

[mok199]

 sad..in short..''no one is interested in this overhaul because the long term bennifits wont allow the spotlight seeking ministers to pat themelves on the back during their tenure''... AMAZING Thailand, where personal gloating supersedes any good dead,combined with that pathetic,life crutch, ''saving face'',no wonder this country is stuck in the stone age''

Edited June 18, 2017 by mok199
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[Lupatria]

4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Education plan ‘will fail without broad support’

As in the past decades- Any Education plan ‘will fail with or without broad support’

[thhMan]

Just sack the teachers that cant pass the basic requirements.

It seems stupid that my 13 y/o daughter is asked about English by a teacher that is barely able to speak the language

Or the time I asked some basic (very basic) questions about Computers to the Computer teacher

 

When less time is spent on the politics of education and more spent time on the kids, then Thailand has a chance to rise from its own stupidity!

Edited June 18, 2017 by thhMan

[KhunBENQ]

20 minutes ago, thhMan said:

Just sack the teachers that cant pass the basic requirements.

That would leave some village schools quite empty.

 

21 minutes ago, thhMan said:

It seems stupid that my 13 y/o daughter is asked about English by a teacher that is barely able to speak the language

During my first years as a visitors my wife always pushed me to sit with the teachers at festivities. They speak English!

"What your name?"

"Where you from?"

"How old you?"

That's about it

 

[The Teacher]

Been there and done that, In my school I had to proof read the English exam papers and correct the prior to the exam date, No wonder the students fail, Oh shit that's right every student cannot be failed even if they never attend  class . Until that changes Thailand will continue to go backwards until the system changes and lets not start about Native Teacher pay rates !!!!!!!!!!

[Na Lee]

Observing our kids school I feel that they are giving proper priority to the three R's: Coloring, Copying, Correct uniforms, Conformity and Ceremony,.
Oh sorry, that's the five C's

Cheating also perhaps?

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[Trumpish]

Education plan ‘will fail without broad support’

 

Here's the news. The education plan will fail with broad support. Thailand is just not prepared to do what it's going to take. If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always got.

[JAG]

Been there and done that, In my school I had to proof read the English exam papers and correct the prior to the exam date, No wonder the students fail, Oh shit that's right every student cannot be failed even if they never attend  class . Until that changes Thailand will continue to go backwards until the system changes and lets not start about Native Teacher pay rates !!!!!!!!!!

Maybe they pay the ones who can punctuate more?

[maewang99]

excellent word usage.... given the context.

excellent.
 

using the adjective "national" with the otherwise quite horrifically misused English morpheme "education".

 

thank you, I guess [I had to... I sure as heck didn't bother reading the attached article].






 

 

 

Edited June 18, 2017 by maewang99

[trainman34014]

The only guarantee is that it WILL FAIL !

[canuckamuck]

1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

That would leave some village schools quite empty.

 

During my first years as a visitors my wife always pushed me to sit with the teachers at festivities. They speak English!

"What your name?"

"Where you from?"

"How old you?"

That's about it

 

I have had the same conversations with some doctors, who my wife also pushes me to talk to because they speak English.

[Na Lee]

" I have seen good signs lately.The government has now agreed to focus more on the long-term aspects of educational development," he said.

HAHAHAHA how long is long term in LOS 1 week maybe 2 weeks and Mr. Karol can you enlighten me on the aspects of educational development. What are they exactly.?
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[Trumpish]

32 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

I have had the same conversations with some doctors, who my wife also pushes me to talk to because they speak English.

 

Yup, me too, including the Head of Medicine at Rama hospital in BKK, who qualified and was educated in the USA. And who I needed to inform that I had arthritis not tendonitis. Tosser.

 

That aside, I have found one way of predicting how a conversation with an educated Thai will go. Wait to see whether they wai you or extend a hand for shaking. The latter is a good sign, the former is definitely not. IMHO.

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[Trumpish]

12 minutes ago, Na Lee said:

" I have seen good signs lately.The government has now agreed to focus more on the long-term aspects of educational development," he said.

HAHAHAHA how long is long term in LOS 1 week maybe 2 weeks and Mr. Karol can you enlighten me on the aspects of educational development. What are they exactly.?
Mommy.???

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Agree. The Thai 'long-term' is the time it takles for Thais to completely forget what has been said. Usually about 9 days ('a 9-day wonder' is a good rule of thumb in Thailand and elsewhere).

 

So after about 9 days, the average Thai has forgotten what muppets their goverments are, and they have to re-evaluate from scratch. Though it has to be admitted that they are not alone in electing clowns to high positions. I recall Nixon, Reagan, GW Bush and finally, the crowning achievement - Trump. Not to forget Cameron, Thatcher, Brown and May.

 

Maybe 9 days is a terrestrial norm

Edited June 18, 2017 by Trumpish

[Na Lee]

Agree. The Thai 'long-term' is the time it takles for Thais to completely forget what has been said. Usually about 9 days ('a 9-day wonder' is a good rule of thumb in Thailand and elsewhere).
 
So after about 9 days, the average Thai has forgotten what muppets their goverments are, and they have to re-evaluate from scratch. Though it has to be admitted that they are not alone in electing clowns to high positions. I recall Nixon, Reagan, GW Bush and finally, the crowning achievement - Trump. Not to forget Cameron, Thatcher, Brown and May.
 
Maybe 9 days is a terrestrial norm

But but but Mr. Cha Cha was never democratically elected.
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[Moti24]

1 hour ago, The Teacher said:

Been there and done that, In my school I had to proof read the English exam papers and correct the prior to the exam date, No wonder the students fail, Oh shit that's right every student cannot be failed even if they never attend  class . Until that changes Thailand will continue to go backwards until the system changes and lets not start about Native Teacher pay rates !!!!!!!!!!

Your username and your post don't seem to match-up.  Are you still teaching, or have you found alternative employment?

 

Prepare for the onslaught of the grammar police.

[Trumpish]

13 minutes ago, Na Lee said:

But but but Mr. Cha Cha was never democratically elected.
Mommy

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Correct, I didn't say he was elected, Though one could argue he elected himself.

 

But for good or ill, he is the government.

 

And a muppet. He's definitely a muppet.

 

Haven't his overseas shindigs declined? Almost like he isn't wanted... How strange.

[clockman]

Heads in the trough, and submarines. No hope for these people.

[kingstonkid]

like many Asian countries and a few others education is not for the promotion of students it is to create  a work force.

 

example schools were started here to only TRAIN young people so that they could replace their parents in the government.

 

In Pakistan and Afghanistan and probably in parts of India and Bangladesh students go to schools (madrasa) provided by the rich land owner. There they are taught exactly what they need to replace mom and dad in the fields or in their duties for the land owner.

 

There is a simple solution but I am sure due to pressure it will never be instituted.  Look at the US in the late 1800's and teach to that level or to Canada in the 50's .  Back when we did not care if our child learned to be a rocket scientist or use a computer to do their homework  using spell check.

 

 

[Trumpish]

5 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

like many Asian countries and a few others education is not for the promotion of students it is to create  a work force.

 

example schools were started here to only TRAIN young people so that they could replace their parents in the government.

 

In Pakistan and Afghanistan and probably in parts of India and Bangladesh students go to schools (madrasa) provided by the rich land owner. There they are taught exactly what they need to replace mom and dad in the fields or in their duties for the land owner.

 

There is a simple solution but I am sure due to pressure it will never be instituted.  Look at the US in the late 1800's and teach to that level or to Canada in the 50's .  Back when we did not care if our child learned to be a rocket scientist or use a computer to do their homework  using spell check.

 

 

 

Good insights. Thanks.

[zyphodb]

Of course it will fail not designed to do anything else.....

 

[Na Lee]

Your username and your post don't seem to match-up.  Are you still teaching, or have you found alternative employment?
 
Prepare for the onslaught of the grammar police.

Bullshit have a comment about content NOT about his usnm doesn't seem to match up and what more is it in yours or ours interrest he is still teaching or whatever. Wise guy...!!!!!###
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[Moti24]

49 minutes ago, Na Lee said:

Bullshit have a comment about content NOT about his usnm doesn't seem to match up and what more is it in yours or ours interrest he is still teaching or whatever. Wise guy...!!!!!###
Mommy

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If you know anything about the Thai education system, you would understand; obviously you don't know.  No point me making any further comment on this subject because it would go right over your head.

 

Have a nice day, and give my regards to "Mommy".

Edited June 18, 2017 by Moti24

[Na Lee]

I humbly bow my head to your extraordinary intelligence.
With love from Mommy.

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[Na Lee]

If you know anything about the Thai education system, you would understand; obviously you don't know.  No point me making any further comment on this subject because it would go right over your head.
 
Have a nice day, and give my regards to "Mommy".

I humbly bow my head to your extraordinary intelligence.
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