Kwasaki Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 13 hours ago, canthai55 said: got mine into the low 10's Always thought the 1/4 mile thing was controversial. Do they time from lights out or from when the car/ motorbike actually moves. ?? I guess you know why l ask " Wheel-spin at standstill start ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Always thought the 1/4 mile thing was controversial. Do they time from lights out or from when the car/ motorbike actually moves. ?? I guess you know why l ask " Wheel-spin at standstill start ". The light goes green and you go, when your front wheel triggers/hits a light beam the time starts, similar light beam at the other end to stop the clock.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, transam said: The light goes green and you go, when your front wheel triggers/hits a light beam the time starts, similar light beam at the other end to stop the clock.. OK thanks l asked because a vid of my son was timed against another bike that didn't have launch control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: OK thanks l asked because a vid of my son was timed against another bike that didn't have launch control. With drag racing a quicker/faster ride can lose the race because of the riders reaction "time" to the light when it goes green...But your time and speed will be shown whether you win or lose to see the difference between them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, transam said: With drag racing a quicker/faster ride can lose the race because of the riders reaction "time" to the light when it goes green...But your time and speed will be shown whether you win or lose to see the difference between them . Thanks, Luke does it for fun and has done as much as it wants with is bike because it comes pretty much well sorted already as vid post #209. He prefers track race days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, Kwasaki said: Thanks, Luke does it for fun and has done as much as it wants with is bike because it comes pretty much well sorted already as vid post #209. He prefers track race days. Me too, just for fun to see if my input improved things, my ride was a 100% dinosaur street car that could fly, my heaven.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, transam said: Me too, just for fun to see if my input improved things, my ride was a 100% dinosaur street car that could fly, my heaven.... I think the only thing top sportbikes these days have more than racecars is Cornering ABS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 10 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Always thought the 1/4 mile thing was controversial. Do they time from lights out or from when the car/ motorbike actually moves. ?? I guess you know why l ask " Wheel-spin at standstill start ". When you stage the car/bike, and the starter activates the Christmas Tree, as soon as you roll forward you break the beam and the ET timer starts. So if you are quick on the tree, you can put down a slower ET yet still win the race, as you cross the finish line first. 66 feet from the end of the track, you break the speed beam, and it records your top speed at the 1/4 mile beam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Like Father like son Track Day at Brands, long wait so edited vid to 6 mins for the start . Edited August 31, 2017 by Kwasaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 14 hours ago, canthai55 said: When you stage the car/bike, and the starter activates the Christmas Tree, as soon as you roll forward you break the beam and the ET timer starts. So if you are quick on the tree, you can put down a slower ET yet still win the race, as you cross the finish line first. 66 feet from the end of the track, you break the speed beam, and it records your top speed at the 1/4 mile beam Yep, I recall a race that I won but the other guy went through the line 8mph faster.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 54 minutes ago, transam said: Yep, I recall a race that I won but the other guy went through the line 8mph faster.. My sons second run the last on the far side revving the what'its out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: My sons second run the last on the far side revving the what'its out of it. What did his bike run, ET and speed....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 hours ago, transam said: What did his bike run, ET and speed....? The Brands track day vid is cam quality you can here Luke's knee sliders.. If you listen to the phone vid 1/4 mile is not so good it was 10.24 l think but he has bettered that since, he has now got 185 bhp at the back wheel at a certified Dyno shop, some other shops were saying 190 bhp not only Thailand err. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Kwasaki said: The Brands track day vid is cam quality you can here Luke's knee sliders.. If you listen to the phone vid 1/4 mile is not so good it was 10.24 l think but he has bettered that since, he has now got 185 bhp at the back wheel at a certified Dyno shop, some other shops were saying 190 bhp not only Thailand err. different dyno, different day, different tester means different results, a variation like that is normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Kwasaki said: The Brands track day vid is cam quality you can here Luke's knee sliders.. If you listen to the phone vid 1/4 mile is not so good it was 10.24 l think but he has bettered that since, he has now got 185 bhp at the back wheel at a certified Dyno shop, some other shops were saying 190 bhp not only Thailand err. Running a 10 is very good, must have been doing near 140mph... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 13 hours ago, Kwasaki said: The Brands track day vid is cam quality you can here Luke's knee sliders.. If you listen to the phone vid 1/4 mile is not so good it was 10.24 l think but he has bettered that since, he has now got 185 bhp at the back wheel at a certified Dyno shop, some other shops were saying 190 bhp not only Thailand err. This will make you..... My 6.6 ltr Transam, from factory had the same HP as your lads bike.. It had less torque than my Vigo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 16 hours ago, transam said: Running a 10 is very good, must have been doing near 140mph... Over 140 mph l think he got into high 9's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 On 8/31/2017 at 10:27 PM, kaorop said: different dyno, different day, different tester means different results, a variation like that is normal. No way buddy been there done it etc etc a lot of dodgy dyno shops in UK to make you feel good, think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 8 hours ago, Kwasaki said: No way buddy been there done it etc etc a lot of dodgy dyno shops in UK to make you feel good, think about it. I'm sure there is, but well, I'm trained on dynos and mocy mech and have numerous friends/workmates/bosses in the business. Its common knowledge that dynos arent an exact science. FWIW https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/24999/how-accurate-and-precise-is-a-dyno-and-why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, kaorop said: I'm sure there is, but well, I'm trained on dynos and mocy mech and have numerous friends/workmates/bosses in the business. Its common knowledge that dynos arent an exact science. FWIW https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/24999/how-accurate-and-precise-is-a-dyno-and-why Agree and respect, interesting stuff that's over my head l was use to carbs & coils old stuff before computer run motorbikes. My son enquired and found many motorcycle engineers in motorcycle businesses have their dyno's computer analyzed & checked regularly some don't. My son went to several places when buying upgrade parts until he found a place where getting know this motorcycle guy from track day it seemed to him that he took much more time & care setting his bike up. The manager was owner, engineer and raced bikes, the dyno was new and the latest allegedly he took the bike on road test as well and returned to re-checked again he told my son he'd got the engine management as near as possible to the best settings, l guess you know what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Went out for a beer, Thai kid had just bought what looked like a Lambretta..Wow, that took me back...Mrs.Trans had to sit on it...He said it cost 90,000bht.....Yeh the photo with Mrs.Trans on it was a must..Hmm. Anyhooo, when he left l was looking forward to the sound l remembered, but alas it sounded like a Click and was auto...Oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, transam said: Went out for a beer, Thai kid had just bought what looked like a Lambretta..Wow, that took me back...Mrs.Trans had to sit on it...He said it cost 90,000bht.....Yeh the photo with Mrs.Trans on it was a must..Hmm. Anyhooo, when he left l was looking forward to the sound l remembered, but alas it sounded like a Click and was auto...Oh well... Nah don't get that rubbish the PCX you have is better and far beyond. Never thought the day would come when I'm looking at CRF250's when I still really want a GSXR1000R K series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Kwasaki said: Never thought the day would come when I'm looking at CRF250's when I still really want a GSXR1000R K series. Similar weight, slight difference in power...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 43 minutes ago, kaorop said: Similar weight, slight difference in power...? And price 12 years old K5 and say 2 year old CFR 3 times as much times but would expect that no comparison whatsoever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 That scooter is a Scomadi , designed by 2 English engineers , 1 an expert in engine / exhaust tuning , the other an expert on brakes / suspension .That 125 air cooled carb model was introduced to "get the ball rolling" while they develop the 200cc version that uses an Aprilia liquid cooled injected engine. High class scooters , like Vespa , but most will go for a 90% similar Yamaha Grand Filano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 On Mon Oct 23 2017 at 6:34 PM, Kwasaki said: And price 12 years old K5 and say 2 year old CFR 3 times as much times but would expect that no comparison whatsoever.. Yes and conversely the crf has 3 times older tech too..or as i say agricultural..Not that its a bad bike..Cant believe Kawasaki didnt respond with an 'up graded' klx...They lost mega sales due to the Crf looking much more modern.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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