Do-over: 1 in 8 people who voted for Trump want to change their vote - Reuters/Ipsos poll

[snoop1130]

Do-over: 1 in 8 people who voted for Trump want to change their vote - Reuters/Ipsos poll

By Chris Kahn

 

U.S. President Donald Trump speaks at the first meeting of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity at the White House in Washington, U.S., July 19, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - About one in eight people who voted for President Donald Trump said they would not do so again after witnessing Trump's tumultuous first six months in office, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll of 2016 voters.

 

While most of the people who voted for Trump on Nov. 8 said they would back him again, the erosion of support within his winning coalition of older, disaffected, mostly white voters poses a potential challenge for the president. Trump, who won the White House with the slimmest of margins, needs every last supporter behind him to push his agenda through a divided Congress and potentially win a second term in 2020.

 

The poll surveyed voters who had told Reuters/Ipsos on Election Day how they had cast their ballots. While other surveys have measured varying levels of disillusionment among Trump supporters, the Reuters/Ipsos poll shows how many would go as far as changing the way they voted. The survey was carried out first in May and then again in July.

 

[Click here to see an expanded view of the data: http://tmsnrt.rs/2vkyX7C]

 

In the July survey, 12 percent of respondents said they would not vote for Trump "if the 2016 presidential election were held today" - 7 percent said they “don’t know” what they would do, and the remaining 5 percent would either support one of the other 2016 presidential candidates or not vote.

 

Eighty-eight percent said they would vote for Trump again, a slight improvement over the May figure of 82 percent. Taken together, the polls suggest that Trump’s standing with his base has improved slightly over the past few months despite his Republican Party’s repeated failures to overhaul the healthcare system and multiple congressional and federal investigations into his campaign’s ties to Russia.

 

To be sure, most presidents lose support among core supporters the longer they are in the White House. According to the Gallup polling service, former President Barack Obama saw his popularity dip among Democrats and minority voters, though it did not come until later in his first term. But Obama, who won the Electoral College with greater margins than Trump, was not as reliant on retaining his core supporters.

 

The minority of Trump voters who said they would not vote for him again gave varying reasons in interviews for why they had changed their minds.

 

Some were tired of his daily trolling of Democrats, the media and the judiciary. Some were disappointed that the Trump administration has not yet swept illegal immigrants out of their communities. Others said the president has not ended the mistrust and hyper-partisanship in Washington as much as they had hoped.

 

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"If I had to walk around wearing a T-shirt saying who I voted for, I may have voted differently,” said Beverly Guy, 34, a Trump voter who took the poll in July. If the election were held today, Guy said she would vote for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson.

 

Guy said she picked Trump mostly because she did not support Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. She never cared that much for Trump and now finds herself rationalizing a decision that has angered many of her friends.

 

"I care more about my neighbors than I do about politics,” she said.

 

Another poll respondent, Brian Barnes, said he was standing by his choice to vote for Trump. He thinks the media is focusing too much on the Russia investigation and not enough on Trump’s accomplishments like his elevation of another conservative justice to the Supreme Court.

 

"I think he’s doing all he can," Barnes said, "even though the Republicans in the House and Senate are creating a lot of problems" by not passing a healthcare bill.

 

Experts in American politics said it makes sense that a transformative political figure like Trump would retain a high degree of loyalty from his supporters no matter what negative headlines are swirling around the White House. Political winds do not shift quickly in a strong economy, they said, especially when many of the president’s decisions have yet to take root.

 

"People are still invested in the choices they made" on Election Day, said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics. "They’re not about to admit that they’re wrong, at least not yet."

 

Elaine Kamarck, an expert in American electoral politics at the Brookings Institution, said the erosion in Trump’s base could certainly hurt his chances of re-election, though it is too early to say so for sure. The most important question is whether he loses support where it counts - in battleground states that he barely won last year.

 

"If these disenchanted Trump voters are in California, it doesn’t matter," Kamarck said. "If they live in Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania, it matters."

 

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English throughout the United States and has a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of about 5 percentage points.

 

The July 11-12 poll gathered its sample from 1,296 people, including 541 Trump voters, while the May 10-15 poll gathered its sample from 1,206 people, including 543 Trump voters. In both cases, Ipsos weighted their responses according to voter profiles gathered from the U.S. Census’ voting and registration supplement to the Current Population Survey.

 

(Reporting by Chris Kahn; Editing by Ross Colvin)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-7-20

[rudi49jr]

I'd have thought at least half of them would want a do-over. But that 7 out of 8 Trump voters still support him also says a lot.

[rijb]

'Buyer's remorse' will come later...when the economy takes a steep dive and health care costs do a steep climb.

[TGIR]

 

"People are still invested in the choices they made" on Election Day, said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics. "They’re not about to admit that they’re wrong, at least not yet."

 

More B.S. disguised as truth.   Now that it is obvious, even to those who won't admit it, the Russian thing is a no go......according to CNN (and who would know better) this morning we will see a push to demonize the President and lots of attention given to how the media has been misrepresented.  Maybe after that we'll see Satanic rituals or something..............

 

 

 

[iReason]

 

"In the July survey, 12 percent of respondents said they would not vote for Trump "if the 2016 presidential election were held today" -

7 percent said they “don’t know” what they would do,

and the remaining 5 percent would either support one of the other 2016 presidential candidates or not vote."

 

Actually it would be 12.5%.

 

That's quite a drop in six months.

 

And according to the OP, up to 20%. If you split the "I don't know".

 

[Redline]

11 minutes ago, TGIR said:

 

"People are still invested in the choices they made" on Election Day, said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics. "They’re not about to admit that they’re wrong, at least not yet."

 

More B.S. disguised as truth.   Now that it is obvious, even to those who won't admit it, the Russian thing is a no go......according to CNN (and who would know better) this morning we will see a push to demonize the President and lots of attention given to how the media has been misrepresented.  Maybe after that we'll see Satanic rituals or something..............

 

 

 

Maybe some pee games?  He seems VERY serious that they don't look into his or his families finances.  That's where his demise lives

[maoro2013]

Well this is total bs. The left wing media will not leave things alone.  Give the guy a chance.

[iReason]

33 minutes ago, TGIR said:

More B.S. disguised as truth.   Now that it is obvious, even to those who won't admit it, the Russian thing is a no go......

Shouldn't that be:

 

Now that it is obvious, even to those who won't admit it, the Russian thing is a no go.

More B.S. disguised as truth.

 

Meanwhile in the real world, the wheels of justice are turning. 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2017 by iReason

[bill014]

Why does the press ALWAYS negatively report? Why not say, 7 out of 8 voters are still happy with Trump??

[iReason]

11 minutes ago, maoro2013 said:

Well this is total bs. The left wing media will not leave things alone.  Give the guy a chance.

 

When the Trumpeteers don’t like what they hear, their knee-jerk marginalizing always kicks right in:

 

It’s the left wing media 

The liberals

The libs

The Dems

But, but, but, but Hillary

But, but, but Obama

 

The boogeyman…

 

"Give the guy a chance" 6 months and nothing.

 

And kinda hard to get to work when;

The occupier of the White House' son, along with a Senior White House adviser to his father and a Russian connected Trump campaign director,

had a clandestine meeting with agents from a hostile foreign adversary.

Russia.

 

Plus of course, 

The White House is under criminal investigation for obstruction of justice, collusion, fraud, racketeering, money laundering and espionage.

By:

The House Intelligence Committee

The Senate Intelligence Committee

The Senate Judiciary Committee

The House Oversight Committee

 

And Special Counsel Mueller.

[mamypoko]

I can't stand him. Didn't vote for him. But keep him where he is . The VP gives me the - turn - to - religion chills..

[Jingthing]

Regretrumpitis

[tonray]

37 minutes ago, bill014 said:

Why does the press ALWAYS negatively report? Why not say, 7 out of 8 voters are still happy with Trump??

How about this : "7 out of 8 Trump voters still wondering why there are Muslims at the local Walmart"

[dunroaming]

1 hour ago, bill014 said:

Why does the press ALWAYS negatively report? Why not say, 7 out of 8 voters are still happy with Trump??

Well I guess they are saying that if the country voted with the hindsight of knowing what an idiot Trump is, then he would lose.  I very much doubt in reality it is one in eight and if people were honest it would be nearer one in three.  However, rarely do people admit that they screwed up.

[dave_boo]

These the same pollsters who predicted a 90% chance of a Hillary win?

Not saying that everyone should be fanatically committed to their choices, but it's way to easy to rig polls to get what you want.

 

For instance:

 

Spousal abuse is alleged to be a huge problem.  Please pick an answer from below.

 

a - Most of the time she got what she deserved.

b - As long as the kids don't see and no one is really hurt it's ok.

c - I've thought about stopping.

d - It's not a problem.

 

That is a zugzwang there.  No matter which answer you choose you're a horrible person.

[iReason]

10 minutes ago, dave_boo said:

Not saying that everyone should be fanatically committed to their choices, but it's way to easy to rig polls to get what you want.

Please pick an answer from below.

That is a zugzwang there. No matter which answer you choose you're a horrible person.

 

What are you on about?

Just another knee jerk reaction to a headline?

Without bothering to read the article I suspect. No surprise there...

 

It wasn''t even close to your your absurdly loaded rigged  "example".

 

The question:

"If the 2016 presidential election were held today, who would you vote for"

 

With simply put answers to choose from:

1. Would vote for trump again

2. Would not vote

3. Don't know

4. Would vote for others

 

In the July survey:

12 percent of respondents said they would not vote for Trump

7 percent said they “don’t know”

The remaining 5 percent would vote for others, 

Or not vote

 

Try reading the article first before posting such cockamamie nonsense.

[Thakkar]

2 hours ago, bill014 said:

Why does the press ALWAYS negatively report? Why not say, 7 out of 8 voters are still happy with Trump??

Because journalism is about what is newsworthy, and the newsworthy thing here is that it took Trump just 6 months to lose his margin of victory, since he won by a mere 80k votes in 3 states. This is important to note because it points to what the republicans in congress face in 2018 if they continue to stick by Trump. If these numbers get even slightly worse, Republicans facing tight races might be looking to  distance themselves from Trump in the next six months to save their own skins.

 

It's not the journalists' job to make anyone feel better by emphasizing: hey, cheer up, you've still got some friends.

 

T

[Thakkar]

53 minutes ago, dave_boo said:

These the same pollsters who predicted a 90% chance of a Hillary win?
<snip>

For some clarity on the concept of probabilities: sometimes, the horse paying sixty to one, wins. Such are the vagaries of races.

 

T

 

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

For some clarity on the concept of probabilities: sometimes, the horse paying sixty to one, wins. Such are the vagaries of races.

 

T

 

The consensus of polls showed Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote by 2 to 3 percent. They were spot on.

The trumpist propaganda that polls that show anything negative about their great "Emperor" are worthless are ... worthless. Hilariously, if there ever are polls showing positive news for 45, then they and their dear leader trumpets about those all over the place. 

Edited July 20, 2017 by Jingthing

[rgraham]

I would have to see the backup for this claim, I must be one of the seven.

[Flustered]

25 minutes ago, rgraham said:

I would have to see the backup for this claim, I must be one of the seven.

The poll details are in the report.

 

They surveyed 1,296 people of which 541 were Trump voters out of a voting population of some 200 million+

 

A real representative study if ever I saw one.

 

 

[Jingthing]

50 minutes ago, Flustered said:

The poll details are in the report.

 

They surveyed 1,296 people of which 541 were Trump voters out of a voting population of some 200 million+

 

A real representative study if ever I saw one.

 

 

 

Seriously? It's called scientific polling. Not the same thing as an election. Can't be.

 

Next ... 

[Scott]

Off-topic, deflections and troll posts along with replies have been removed.  

[Thakkar]

14 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

That poll was taken in Las Angeles , San Francisco, and New York; 

...by cigar-smoking chimps with clipboards, wearing tuxedos and riding hover-boards.

 

T

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

...by cigar-smoking chimps with clipboards, wearing tuxedos and riding hover-boards.

 

T

Yeah, that was a classic example of the level of intellectual honesty from the trumpist loyalist brigade. Reality doesn't matter. Dangerous new world we're in now. 

[boomerangutang]

21 hours ago, iReason said:

"In the July survey, 12 percent of respondents said they would not vote for Trump "if the 2016 presidential election were held today" - 7 percent said they “don’t know” what they would do,

and the remaining 5 percent would either support one of the other 2016 presidential candidates or not vote."

Actually it would be 12.5%. That's quite a drop in six months. And according to the OP, up to 20%. If you split the "I don't know".

                                    Actually, that's 23% who would probably not vote again for Trump, .....near 1 in 4.

 

                                  Yet, each voter has a mind, and human minds are fickle things.   A person can hate the idea of a 70 year old man getting cozy with a 19 year old gal.   But then, if it's their dear uncle or one of their silver screen idols, they'll stand up and cheer.  That actually happened on the David Letterman show. Jack Lemmon, 70-something movie star, announced he was engaged to marry a woman 50 years his junior.  The audience stood and cheered with gusto.  If it was a 70-something guy whom the audience didn't know anything about, they'd likely all go 'Yuck, what a pervert.'