Yingluck’s loyalists say love, not money, behind support

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Yingluck’s loyalists say love, not money, behind support

By THE NATION

 

 

BANGKOK: -- THEY CAME to the Supreme Court from various regions with the same purpose in mind – to give moral support to a former prime minister they love, Yingluck Shinawatra.

Her supporters interviewed by The Nation denied speculation that they had been organised to show support, insisting that they had come on their own initiative with the trip costing them only a few hundred baht, which they could pay from their own pockets.

 

The former prime minister delivered her closing statements yesterday in the case linked to her government’s controversial rice-pledging scheme.

 

Dressed in black, Yingluck was warmly welcomed by her supporters who arrived at the scene as early as 5am. They pushed one another to get close to her, with some offering her flowers and others cheering “Yingluck fight on, fight on”. 

 

 

Hundreds of riot-control police from the Metropolitan Police Bureau were deployed at the Supreme Court where fences were erected, but that did not discourage the crowd.

 

Residents of Yingluck’s hometown of Chiang Mai, including 65-year-old Kobsiri Nilkaew, travelled in a group and shared the cost of renting a car. Kobsiri said her children had given her Bt300, which she had shared with her friends for the car rental. 

 

She also insisted that no one had paid them to attend the gathering, which they did because they felt the former prime minister was being treated unjustly. 

 

Kobsiri also pledged to come to Bangkok again on August 25 when the verdict is expected, although she said she had little confidence in a positive ruling for Yingluck.

 

People who travelled from regions in the East and the Northeast also shared similar experiences, saying they had rented vans for no more than Bt500 each.

 

 

Another supporter said a group had left Chon Buri together in a van at around 3.30am and arrived at the court before the closing statement was delivered.

 

The supporter said they had brought their own breakfast to save money, which they ate while waiting for Yingluck to arrive.

 

“Who would hire us if we come here for her based on our hearts? We emptied our wallets, spending money for the van, and bringing our breakfast without bothering anyone. Those saying we were hired have ill intentions,” the supporter told The Nation.

 

“I came here based on my heart because I can’t see justice,” concurred Sathaporn Rakkid, 76, from Khon Kaen.

 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30322493

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-08-02

[yellowboat]

She does seem to have rock star status. 

[ratcatcher]

5 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

She does seem to have rock star status. 

And of course, rock star looks and wealth.

[halloween]

51 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

And of course, rock star looks and wealth.

Looks a bit like Ronnie Wood.

[NCC1701A]

i think the DMZ will be not too far north of Bangkok.

 

 

[ratcatcher]

4 minutes ago, halloween said:

Looks a bit like Ronnie Wood.

What have you been smoking?

 

[Thechook]

This must really be tearing away at Prayuth as he never gets this much love, admiration and support from the people.  Better postpone the election for another 20 years.  I would guess she would win an election in a landslide

[Eric Loh]

14 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

What have you been smoking?

 

Halloween was referring to himself. Is that how you look, Halloween? Appropriately named. 

[Chris Lawrence]

The General usually has rent a crowd. YL people are there on their own accord as they love & believe in the person.

 

YL is the country folk hero. The junta is making her a martyr.

 

Her legal examination has been oppressive, lacking a fair and equitable examination of the matter she is accused of, managed by military kangaroos. Some people may twist such a statement to suit the colour they wear along with the hatred and vengeance they have in their heads. But it remains a statement of fact.

[Yann55]

Come on Chris ... I understand what you're trying to say here, but surely you realize how manipulative the Thaksin clan has been, and from the very beginning ? How they capitalized, for example, on the natural xenophobia that lurks in every human being (by calling their party Thai Rak Thai, for a start), or the naive tendency to believe that a millionaire can somehow make 'his people' rich as well ?

 

Populism is all about investing money and clever communication techniques, in order to make voters love you and believe in you. It works (that's where you are right), but there isn't not a drop of honesty and/or sincere dedication involved. The only goal was/is to seize power. That's what made the Shins go from rich to immensely rich and they want more.

 

You are right when you point out that this whole 'legal' examination is a blatant witch hunt, but frankly, I can't help seeing it as 'doing the right thing for the wrong reasons'.

 

All too often on this Forum I read comments which imply that if the junta is wrong, then that makes the Thaksins right, or the other way round. Why fall for this absurd and dualistic approach, which incidentally is precisely what all politicians want us to fall for ?

 

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2017 by Yann55

[LazySlipper]

2 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

And of course, rock star looks and wealth.

 

I know a good optometrist for those of you who seem to think that the old hag looks good. Or maybe just go take a walk around to see that there are a hella va lot of gorgeous women around who look a helllava lot better than that old hag.

 

Or maybe you just need to get an inflatable doll and stop fantasizing on an ugly overweight cry baby. 

[Morch]

There's goes that song again....

 

 

[billd766]

2 hours ago, Yann55 said:

Come on Chris ... I understand what you're trying to say here, but surely you realize how manipulative the Thaksin clan has been, and from the very beginning ? How they capitalized, for example, on the natural xenophobia that lurks in every human being (by calling their party Thai Rak Thai, for a start), or the naive tendency to believe that a millionaire can somehow make 'his people' rich as well ?

 

Populism is all about investing money and clever communication techniques, in order to make voters love you and believe in you. It works (that's where you are right), but there isn't not a drop of honesty and/or sincere dedication involved. The only goal was/is to seize power. That's what made the Shins go from rich to immensely rich and they want more.

 

You are right when you point out that this whole 'legal' examination is a blatant witch hunt, but frankly, I can't help seeing it as 'doing the right thing for the wrong reasons'.

 

All too often on this Forum I read comments which imply that if the junta is wrong, then that makes the Thaksins right, or the other way round. Why fall for this absurd and dualistic approach, which incidentally is precisely what all politicians want us to fall for ?

 

 

 

 

 

A quote from George Burns.

 

"Sincerity - if you can fake that, you've got it made.”

[halloween]

37 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Exactly. He's pretty much universally loathed these days. 

 

He has turned YL into a martyr now, such has been the military's bungling mishandling of the 'reconciliation' process.

 

They hoped that they could destroy the Shinawatra political machine by targeting individuals however if anything they have only served to galvanise popular opinion against themselves. 

 

Nobody likes a bully. 

 

The longer it goes on the more violent the inevitable civil conflict will be. 

Does the prospect of political violence excite you? Is that why you are prepared to ignore and excuse blatant criminality, in the hope that the criminals will once more be able to agitate their supporters with lies, misinformation and propaganda to once more engage in violence on behalf of Shinawatra money?

[Chris Lawrence]

3 hours ago, Yann55 said:

Come on Chris ... I understand what you're trying to say here, but surely you realize how manipulative the Thaksin clan has been, and from the very beginning ? How they capitalized, for example, on the natural xenophobia that lurks in every human being (by calling their party Thai Rak Thai, for a start), or the naive tendency to believe that a millionaire can somehow make 'his people' rich as well ?

 

Populism is all about investing money and clever communication techniques, in order to make voters love you and believe in you. It works (that's where you are right), but there isn't not a drop of honesty and/or sincere dedication involved. The only goal was/is to seize power. That's what made the Shins go from rich to immensely rich and they want more.

 

You are right when you point out that this whole 'legal' examination is a blatant witch hunt, but frankly, I can't help seeing it as 'doing the right thing for the wrong reasons'.

 

All too often on this Forum I read comments which imply that if the junta is wrong, then that makes the Thaksins right, or the other way round. Why fall for this absurd and dualistic approach, which incidentally is precisely what all politicians want us to fall for ?

 

 

 

 

Everyone deserves their day in court Yann. What is now coming out is that YL attempts to present evidence was stifled. None of us mere mortals were allowed to attend the court and its reporting took a long time. Part of the current uneasy Thai legal system. Money also went back into the economy.

 

Kevin Rudd did a few schemes in his time to stop Australia falling into the world trade crisis. Again poorly managed and run. People died. The subjective people wanted his head (the opposition) where as objectively he actually stopped Australia from following the rest of the world into economic disaster. But he did turn out to be a bad manager of people. YL program may have had a secondary benefit to the Thai economy. We won't know because this is one thing the General won't let be examined. Now their her/legal team words. 

 

The difference here is most Australians don't want Kevin Rudd Dead or have his fortune ripped from him. I think there was an enquiry to the deaths, but no one did goal time. Kevin's is a very rich man.

 

Back to a level playing field.

 

So what you want Yann is for this women to be stripped of wealth and thrown in goal and any supporters massacred. That is a probable option at the moment.  

 

"Populism is all about investing money and clever communication techniques, in order to make voters love you and believe in you. It works (that's where you are right), but there isn't not a drop of honesty and/or sincere dedication involved. The only goal was/is to seize power. That's what made the Shins go from rich to immensely rich and they want more."

 

Populism for Thailand has for many years to invest in the country folk. This has varied from time to time. The greater expenditure is always for the Bangkok area and building construction run by Thais managed by their banks.

 

"All too often on this Forum I read comments which imply that if the junta is wrong, then that makes the Thaksin's right, or the other way round. Why fall for this absurd and dualistic approach, which incidentally is precisely what all politicians want us to fall for ?"

 

Agree Yann. I want to see what is right for Thailand. Thaksin and the General are two peas from the same pod. Their mum's used to car pool them from school when they were little, then went to the same boarding schools.

 

The real problem is the greed that comes with this process from all parties.

 

[sawadee1947]

6 hours ago, yellowboat said:

She does seem to have rock star status. 

at least one of the best looking PMs so far....

[JAG]

This must really be tearing away at Prayuth as he never gets this much love, admiration and support from the people.  Better postpone the election for another 20 years.  I would guess she would win an election in a landslide

Having read through the several threads around this topic I don't think Prayut is the only one feeling a bit "torn up"!

[sawadee1947]

42 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said:

 

4 hours ago, Yann55 said:

Come on Chris ... I understand what you're trying to say here, but surely you realize how manipulative the Thaksin clan has been, and from the very beginning ? How they capitalized, for example, on the natural xenophobia that lurks in every human being (by calling their party Thai Rak Thai, for a start), or the naive tendency to believe that a millionaire can somehow make 'his people' rich as well ?

 

Populism is all about investing money and clever communication techniques, in order to make voters love you and believe in you. It works (that's where you are right), but there isn't not a drop of honesty and/or sincere dedication involved. The only goal was/is to seize power. That's what made the Shins go from rich to immensely rich and they want more.

 

You are right when you point out that this whole 'legal' examination is a blatant witch hunt, but frankly, I can't help seeing it as 'doing the right thing for the wrong reasons'.

 

All too often on this Forum I read comments which imply that if the junta is wrong, then that makes the Thaksins right, or the other way round. Why fall for this absurd and dualistic approach, which incidentally is precisely what all politicians want us to fall for ?

 

 

 

 

Everyone deserves their day in court Yann. What is now coming out is that YL attempts to present evidence was stifled. None of us mere mortals were allowed to attend the court and its reporting took a long time. Part of the current uneasy Thai legal system. Money also went back into the economy.

 

Kevin Rudd did a few schemes in his time to stop Australia falling into the world trade crisis. Again poorly managed and run. People died. The subjective people wanted his head (the opposition) where as objectively he actually stopped Australia from following the rest of the world into economic disaster. But he did turn out to be a bad manager of people. YL program may have had a secondary benefit to the Thai economy. We won't know because this is one thing the General won't let be examined. Now their her/legal team words. 

 

The difference here is most Australians don't want Kevin Rudd Dead or have his fortune ripped from him. I think there was an enquiry to the deaths, but no one did goal time. Kevin's is a very rich man.

 

Back to a level playing field.

 

So what you want Yann is for this women to be stripped of wealth and thrown in goal and any supporters massacred. That is a probable option at the moment.  

 

"Populism is all about investing money and clever communication techniques, in order to make voters love you and believe in you. It works (that's where you are right), but there isn't not a drop of honesty and/or sincere dedication involved. The only goal was/is to seize power. That's what made the Shins go from rich to immensely rich and they want more."

 

Populism for Thailand has for many years to invest in the country folk. This has varied from time to time. The greater expenditure is always for the Bangkok area and building construction run by Thais managed by their banks.

 

"All too often on this Forum I read comments which imply that if the junta is wrong, then that makes the Thaksin's right, or the other way round. Why fall for this absurd and dualistic approach, which incidentally is precisely what all politicians want us to fall for ?"

 

Agree Yann. I want to see what is right for Thailand. Thaksin and the General are two peas from the same pod. Their mum's used to car pool them from school when they were little, then went to the same boarding schools.

 

The real problem is the greed that comes with this process from all parties.

 

Well, as you know WE cannot change even the slightest thing here. WE are guests and not even welcome. But what is your point then? If I follow your statement there is no option for any kind of solution? Your say is all are too greedy.... And what? Do you think a Mr. Rudd would not take any advantage if offered.....legally, of course....

[Jonnapat]

Mindless. Should have something better to do.