farcanell Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Cranky said: Always old battleaxes every time I walk past it Well the proprietor did say they had packages to suit everyone's taste... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 7 hours ago, smedly said: so lets all take a stroll down there next week and see if the place is still open and operating normally lol, would any Thailand news agency dare do a follow up ? Heck no! They might get sued for libel and/or slander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I don't know how the owner can be liable as the OP says the sex part was negotiated between the customer and the massage girl, nothing to do with the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpjack Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 12 hours ago, Justgrazing said: Jeez they do go in mob handed don't they .. Bit excessive for a Madam and 2 teenagers no .? And the editing suite went a bit heavy with the pink crayon didnt they .. The one at the front now looks more like a mannequin .. cops acted accordingly !! what do you expect when underage girls are involved ? or do you agree with underage girls being sold to pattaya perverts for sex ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonboy Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, pumpjack said: cops acted accordingly !! what do you expect when underage girls are involved ? or do you agree with underage girls being sold to pattaya perverts for sex ? First sensible remark I read (except the one from curtklay), was just in the process of writing about this. There is NO WAY you should accept traditions like payed sex with girls (or boys) under the age of 21 years (and that is my opinion). Been in the sex-industry in Holland for a couple of years, have seen a lot, but never will accept this. The law in Holland now still accepts prostitution above 17 years, but many cities already changed their local law (to get a permit) to above 20 years (so 21 and older). The reason is simple, the younger these woman are, the more motivated they are to do this job by loverboys and/or money. To get out of this social class will get more difficult the younger they start. Humans of under 21 are not stable enough to cope with everyday problems of prostitution. most of them get addicted to drugs, alcohol or money spending... And then it is even harder to get "out". Want a better Thailand? Start with changing your thoughts about this yourself : Justgrazing : "Bit excessive for a Madam and 2 teenagers no .? " ..... Really ? all means should be possible to fight this. Steven100 : the emoticon you placed says it all. Shame on you. wirat69 & Gandtee : "1,500 baht... what a cheapskate!!!" Clearly you are prepared to pay more for sex with underage humans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 With underage girls? You think so?Thankfully it's very rare these days in the farang scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 When i first came to Pattaya , the 17 year olds were the older girls in some bars ,remember going to a Thai place up on sukhumvit , couldnt believe how young some of the girls were , i had a really old one ,she must have been 20 if she was a day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 53 minutes ago, pumpjack said: cops acted accordingly !! what do you expect when underage girls are involved ? or do you agree with underage girls being sold to pattaya perverts for sex ? you say" underage" and "perverts" but dont forget the age of consent here in Thailand is 15 . only 18 if money changes hands . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, tonboy said: wirat69 & Gandtee : "1,500 baht... what a cheapskate!!!" Clearly you are prepared to pay more for sex with underage humans ? Now that you mention it, anyone know the age of consent for a chook here in LOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 The photograph is most disturbing. I can see up to 10 (probably) armed men. No idea how many armed men were really involved not to mention the one who assumed a false identity and offered 1500฿ for'services.' This in my view is entrapment and should result in any case being laughed out of court. The really disturbing aspect of this charade though, is that if we are to assume the 2 teenage girls were so vulnerable, then there should have been at least 2 women police there if not a civilian trained in such matters present. It does not take 10 armed men to arrest a 32 year old woman and 2 teenage girls. An earlier poster said 'they went in mob handed.' I agree and think the behaviour of the police is at best questionable at every stage and have much to answer for. ,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 47 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: you say" underage" and "perverts" but dont forget the age of consent here in Thailand is 15 . only 18 if money changes hands . Used before to be something with parental permission if under 18 (but over 15), but that seemed to be changed to only: Quote The age of consent in Thailand is 18 regardless of gender or sexual orientation, as specified by article 317,318 and 319 of the Thai Criminal Code. The current legislation applies to all regardless of gender or sexual orientation. Source: Wikipedia. Believe money change hands when 15-16 year old village girls are married... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, pumpjack said: cops acted accordingly !! what do you expect when underage girls are involved ? or do you agree with underage girls being sold to pattaya perverts for sex ? Cops acted after the law – and that's how they should act – but it's unknown if "underage girls being sold to Pattaya perverts for sex" or they work there voluntary. If you ask a Thai girl about her age and she reply "18", she may well be 17, but in Thai-way-of-thinking she's living in her 18th year, so she's 18. Sounds okay, but when bringing the young lady to a resort where ID-card check is mandatory, it may reveal an age of 17 only... Believe you'll find a number of "underage girls" aged 17, if you carefully check various venues, and not only in Pattaya, girls that have not been trafficked or forced, but work there fully voluntary for numerous reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 hours ago, curtklay said: This country is shameful and needs a total reform starting with mandatory education beyond grade 4, and job opportunities that pay more than 300 baht per day. Child traffickers should receive the most severe sentencing possible. I don't care if "it's always been this way". It's time to clean the toilet. Shouldn't that be the swamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Turner Mad Punx Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 15 hours ago, Justgrazing said: Jeez they do go in mob handed don't they .. Bit excessive for a Madam and 2 teenagers no .? And the editing suite went a bit heavy with the pink crayon didnt they .. The one at the front now looks more like a mannequin .. Not excessive at all. Underage girls are a big no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Probably that dodgy undercover french farang was used who has a bar on Soi Lengkee.There are 10-15 massage shops on that Soi, mostly older birds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free123 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 a good Samaritan or just to little money in the monthly envelope ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, free123 said: a good Samaritan or just to little money in the monthly envelope ???? TVF requires brown envelopes. Maybe a shortage ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 The woman did not sell anything but the girls need an agent. So it was a typical win-win situation. That's it. No sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 41 minutes ago, Jim Turner Mad Punx said: Not excessive at all. Underage girls are a big no no. Geez' that raid was no more than a P R exercise for Patt's " vice squad " How else were the media there to hover up all the salatious details .? You don't need 10 blokes to nick 3 slight females in the real world .. As for under-age girls are a no no .. You are quite right and so it should be but get real dude it goes on here ( have you ever been to some of the " quaint " villages up North .? ) .. I admire you're point of view dude but you need to tether it to some reality as to what this place is and always has been about .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchbull Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Pattaya Sin city Edited August 4, 2017 by dutchbull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 First sensible remark I read (except the one from curtklay), was just in the process of writing about this. There is NO WAY you should accept traditions like payed sex with girls (or boys) under the age of 21 years (and that is my opinion). Been in the sex-industry in Holland for a couple of years, have seen a lot, but never will accept this. The law in Holland now still accepts prostitution above 17 years, but many cities already changed their local law (to get a permit) to above 20 years (so 21 and older). The reason is simple, the younger these woman are, the more motivated they are to do this job by loverboys and/or money. To get out of this social class will get more difficult the younger they start. Humans of under 21 are not stable enough to cope with everyday problems of prostitution. most of them get addicted to drugs, alcohol or money spending... And then it is even harder to get "out". Want a better Thailand? Start with changing your thoughts about this yourself : Justgrazing : "Bit excessive for a Madam and 2 teenagers no .? " ..... Really ? all means should be possible to fight this. Steven100 : the emoticon you placed says it all. Shame on you. wirat69 & Gandtee : "1,500 baht... what a cheapskate!!!" Clearly you are prepared to pay more for sex with underage humans ? It's amazing how many of the ex Patts think it is quite normal for this type of thing and let their guard down making a "joke" of it. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 If they were really looking for underage kids, then they would have found plenty in the complex in Jomtien. Unless boys don't count ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I believe the headline but not necessarily the evidence! You "can" make this stuff up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 5 hours ago, bert bloggs said: you say" underage" and "perverts" but dont forget the age of consent here in Thailand is 15 . only 18 if money changes hands . Money changing hands in return for sex sounds like prostitution to me .. But not here .. Now .! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSeek01 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I was offered once from a small massage place, I didn't even walk in, was just walking by. Up by @@@@@. Not my bag but it left me thinking for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Money changing hands in return for sex sounds like prostitution to me .. But not here .. Now .!Paying for sex is prostitution wherever you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandemara Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 If this ambush wasn't a classic entrapment, what is? It's made more distasteful when you consider the whole charade has, most likely, occurred because of a shortage in the monthly brown envelope donation. Is law and order enforcement just another murky , sleazy commercial industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: Paying for sex is prostitution wherever you are! Apart from here .. Where it no longer exists according to T A T .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Jim Turner Mad Punx said: Not excessive at all. Underage girls are a big no no. Ostensibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, dutchbull said: Pattaya Sin city Oooohhh... pithy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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