How do hospitals and large public buildings deal with sewage?

[Tapster]

 

Here I am, visiting a hospital in Phuket.

 

I went to the loo and it occurred to me.....if our little house uses a septic tank, do hospitals use very large septic tanks, or banks of them?

 

In Thailand, how do very large buildings like hospitals and tower blocks deal with their sewage?

 

Edited August 4, 2017 by Tapster

[Kwasaki]

Phuket no problem nice big pipe into the sea. 

[Tapster]

Ha-ha!   

 

Any more detailed responses, please?

[cheeryble]

A typical condo, and presumably hospital, may have several overground or underground tanks.

The downpipes stacks usually deal with a vertical collection of rooms then each go to their own, or share, a tank. The tanks overflow into a ground filter system in the one I know.

[Tapster]

@cheeryble

 

That's very interesting, thanks! 

 

[Peterw42]

Edited August 4, 2017 by Peterw42

[cheeryble]

12 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

 

Haha I forgot some of us live in the twenty first century......lucky you

[RichCor]

A couple of the hospitals in Chiang Mai are located right next to a water treatment plant.

Not sure if that's good or bad.  They also use a LOT of water in their sterilization procedures.

[Here2008]

9 minutes ago, RichCor said:

They also use a LOT of water in their sterilization procedures

 

That's interesting. How much water is involved in theses "sterilization" procedures?  Many sterile items are single use and sterilised commercially using a gas(such as Ethylene Oxide) or an ionizing radiation source

Edited August 4, 2017 by Here2008

[RichCor]

From what I saw:

food trays, containers and utensils, 

bedding linen, towels, gowns and other cloth

 

Not everything comes as a hermetically sealed single use item. Unfortunately.

[Here2008]

Just now, RichCor said:

food trays, containers and utensils, 

bedding linen, towels, gowns and other cloth

And how is all this "sterilised"  ---- Methinks you are mistaken. 

[RichCor]

Fine.

I have no idea why all of these items were being carted off to a building with large water pipes going in and large steam extractors on the roof.

 

Your desire to be pedantic between decontaminate and sterilization has earner you an immediate place on my ignore list.

 

 

[Here2008]

Just now, RichCor said:

Fine.

I have no idea why all of these items were being carted off to a building with large water pipes going in and large steam extractors on the roof.

 

Your desire to be pedantic between decontaminate and sterilization has earner you an immediate place on my ignore list.

 

 

Oh dear !   

[eyecatcher]

The very large buildings will use much bigger spetic tanks than your domestic size....and often several together so they can zone the building.

 

 

I remember one plastic submarine  we once installed that was 12m long and was connected to a second on also 12m long. that was to service a housing estate at the top of a hill simply to control the poo speed. I have never seen as much concrete thrown into such a massive hole

[Tapster]

 

Thank you, all!

 

I think my curiosity in this area is well and truly satisfied!

 

[KIWIBATCH]

All of Pattayas sewerage is dumped via large pipes 300mtrs out into the sea untreated (keep your mouth tightly shut if you go swimming there)......60% of Bangkoks sewerage untreated ends up in the Chao Phraya river......hospitals abound in both locations

[cheeryble]

All of Pattayas sewerage is dumped via large pipes 300mtrs out into the sea untreated (keep your mouth tightly shut if you go swimming there)......60% of Bangkoks sewerage untreated ends up in the Chao Phraya river......hospitals abound in both locations

When I was a kid I used to go swimming in water holes in fields with cows or horses in. (In fact used to collect sacks of cow pats and horse droppings, and sell them on horse and cart......still got a photo)
A lot of poo must have washed into the water.
I wonder if there's actually any danger involved......would salt water perhaps deal with bacteria?


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[Here2008]

5 minutes ago, cheeryble said:

 

When I was a kid I used to go swimming in water holes in fields with cows or horses in. (In fact used to collect sacks of cow pats and horse droppings, and sell them on horse and cart......still got a photo)
A lot of poo must have washed into the water.
I wonder if there's actually any danger involved......would salt water perhaps deal with bacteria?


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Some take the significant health risks presented by contaminated sea water seriously ......

http://www.thejournal.ie/e-coli-killiney-beach-3471588-Jun2017/

 

FYI  E Coli = Poo ! 

[Ridler]

Really? You get up in the morning and decide to start a discussion about hospital waste. 

Tou need a hobby, something to keep you busy, a life!

[csabo]

On 8/4/2017 at 0:41 PM, Kwasaki said:

Phuket no problem nice big pipe into the sea. 

Must be a long pipe.  Most of the hospitals are nowhere near the sea.

[cheeryble]

Well don't fish poo? Is that somehow specially hygienic? Not to mention sea slugs and crustaceans.....


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[Wim1954]

On 4-8-2017 at 0:41 PM, Kwasaki said:

Phuket no problem nice big pipe into the sea. 

They don't care.

[zyphodb]

At a guess, very badly......

[Kwasaki]

11 hours ago, csabo said:

Must be a long pipe.  Most of the hospitals are nowhere near the sea.

Nor is the Russian pipeline near Germany but it's getting there. 

[Xobtsiwt]

Randomly? Like most things in Thailand, it's pot luck.

[sirineou]

On 8/7/2017 at 8:25 AM, cheeryble said:

 

When I was a kid I used to go swimming in water holes in fields with cows or horses in. (In fact used to collect sacks of cow pats and horse droppings, and sell them on horse and cart......still got a photo)
A lot of poo must have washed into the water.
I wonder if there's actually any danger involved......would salt water perhaps deal with bacteria?


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There are many  problems associated with discharging sewage in the sea but I can think of two .

One is Pathogens the other is nutrients. 

Pathogens for obvious reasons, nutrients for changing the ecosystem balance, and promoting Algal blooms that can be toxic to the ecosystem, humans. and diminish the dissolved oxygen.  

 

one is pathogens, 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎8‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 4:56 PM, Here2008 said:

 

That's interesting. How much water is involved in theses "sterilization" procedures?  Many sterile items are single use and sterilised commercially using a gas(such as Ethylene Oxide) or an ionizing radiation source

Take it from one that's worked in a hospital instruments room. Instruments cost a fortune and NO WAY is everything single use, though of course they are trying to do so- HUGE bucks for the companies that make them.

Sterilising is the last thing that is done. First the blood and bits of bone etc have to be removed from the instruments, using water, lots of it.

Only then, after packing, are the instruments sterilized, with STEAM under pressure, not gas or radiation. Some specialist instruments and anything made of material that would melt at high temps are.

 

Any cloth has to be washed after each use, also using water.

Without a water supply, any hospital would cease to function. Just hand washing, which I alone did more times than I could count every day ( multiply by every clinical staff in the place ) takes a vast amount of water.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎8‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 9:06 PM, sirineou said:

There are many  problems associated with discharging sewage in the sea but I can think of two .

One is Pathogens the other is nutrients. 

Pathogens for obvious reasons, nutrients for changing the ecosystem balance, and promoting Algal blooms that can be toxic to the ecosystem, humans. and diminish the dissolved oxygen.  

 

one is pathogens, 

Never mind about global warming or climate change. Humans are probably going to kill themselves off long before the sun does. The end of humanity, by a microbe- seems a silly way to go.

[inThailand]

This is a shitty post!