Myanmar men appeal against death sentences over British murders in Thailand

[rockingrobin]

4 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

That was the ruling of the Court.

which court and what ruling

[StealthEnergiser]

18 hours ago, greenchair said:

Who cares the name. 

Nothing to do with this case. 

That issue should have been dealt with by the defense 2 years ago. 

Now we're all hoping the supreme court will uphold the verdict. 

Some are hoping the death penalty will be overturned because of their age. But since the human rights lawyers didn't ask for that, highly unlikely. I guess their next hope is a royal pardon. Let's hope they don't stuff that up with nonsense, someone else did it. 

Just found it this would be when Nomsod went missing.

 

The investigation into the murder of two British tourists in Koh Tao sees a new twist after the police questioned two prime suspects they earlier said have enough evidence to prove their connection.

 

Police interrogated Woraphan Toovichien, 49, a village headman and owner of AC Bar which is located near the murder scene, and his brother, Montriwat Toovichien, owner of In Touch resort and caretaker of AC Bar.

Both gave good cooperation to the police and they denied they had any connection.

 

 

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-twist-murder-two-brits-koh-tao/

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[JLCrab]

I am revising the statement of 4 minutes above: That was a statement of fact by the Queens Bench Court .

[StealthEnergiser]

18 hours ago, IslandLover said:

Now we're all hoping the supreme court will uphold the verdict.

 

We?  Who are "we"?  Elaborate please? 

she takes a long time to answer 

[EyeOfRa]

"The Justice said that these are the facts in the case."

 

Indeed. And the question which next arises is from which source or sources these "facts" derived.

The RTP?

Edited September 1, 2017 by EyeOfRa

[StealthEnergiser]

18 hours ago, greenchair said:

Who cares the name. 

Nothing to do with this case. 

That issue should have been dealt with by the defense 2 years ago. 

Now we're all hoping the supreme court will uphold the verdict. 

Some are hoping the death penalty will be overturned because of their age. But since the human rights lawyers didn't ask for that, highly unlikely. I guess their next hope is a royal pardon. Let's hope they don't stuff that up with nonsense, someone else did it. 

who is is we're ????

[JLCrab]

KOH TAO MURDERS: NEWSPAPER APOLOGIZES FOR IMPLICATING OFFICIAL’S SON

August 14, 2015

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2015/08/14/1439558550/

[transam]

Just now, JLCrab said:

KOH TAO MURDERS: NEWSPAPER APOLOGIZES FOR IMPLICATING OFFICIAL’S SON

August 14, 2015

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2015/08/14/1439558550/

I wonder why.....

[JLCrab]

(ii) The basic facts: the murders 8. On 15 September 2014 two young British tourists, Hannah Witheridge and David Miller, were brutally murdered on the island of Koh Tao in Thailand. Hannah was also raped.

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/hq_15X0311_final.pdf  Page 3

 

 

If you have enquiries about the work of the judiciary please write to us at the address below:

Judicial Office 
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Royal Courts of Justice
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Edited September 1, 2017 by JLCrab

[EyeOfRa]

Thank you. Perhaps I shall write.

[JLCrab]

9 minutes ago, transam said:

I wonder why.....

Because they took Panya's story verbatim and after one year of trying to prove that what they printed was true, they couldn't do it.

[JLCrab]

1 minute ago, EyeOfRa said:

Thank you. Perhaps I shall write.

G-R-E-E-N

[transam]

2 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

Because they took Panya's story verbatim and after one year of trying to prove that what they printed was true, they couldn't do it.

Bit like the B2's case eh...

[EyeOfRa]

 

3 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

G-R-E-E-N

Yes, possibly the Justice was rather green at the time.

[JLCrab]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Bit like the B2's case eh...

No.

[transam]

1 minute ago, JLCrab said:

No.

You tell me why two weeee blokes did not crush Daves head first so the big guy would not be a problem for other stuff.....?

[StealthEnergiser]

another 

10 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

Because they took Panya's story verbatim and after one year of trying to prove that what they printed was true, they couldn't do it.

this one 

Just found it this would be when Nomsod went missing.

 

The investigation into the murder of two British tourists in Koh Tao sees a new twist after the police questioned two prime suspects they earlier said have enough evidence to prove their connection.

 

Police interrogated Woraphan Toovichien, 49, a village headman and owner of AC Bar which is located near the murder scene, and his brother, Montriwat Toovichien, owner of In Touch resort and caretaker of AC Bar.

Both gave good cooperation to the police and they denied they had any connection.

 

 

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-twist-murder-two-brits-koh-tao/

[StealthEnergiser]

looks like crab and greenchair are working together have a look at greenchairs visitors .

[JLCrab]

I sent her a message.

[StealthEnergiser]

1 minute ago, JLCrab said:

I sent her a message.

sure you did

 

maybe you missed this 

 

This could of been what happened .

 

Sean,Hannah,David sitting on the log playing Guitar singing.

 

Drunken thugs come a long start pushing shoving a fight breaks out. 

 

Sean is  hit but escaped thats why blood was all over the guitar and his cut arm but he manages to take  off and he recognised them all and try to hide.

 

Calls media when he is found to save his life tweets photo's of suspects.

 

Sean has had his life threatened by Mon and the other cop plus  headman have done research quickly on Sean past underage girls i think.

 

They killed David first most likely then killed Hannah as she saw it all.

 

Set her up in a position to look like she was raped and went looking for scapegoats.

 

Village headman and cops are also holding something else against Sean like an  underage person willing to step forward at anytime if he speaks.

 

Sean has to be let go as too much media attention but in my opinion he is the man that could help the b2 to be released.

 

a little recap here

http://www.dvb.no/news/police-tried-to-manipulate-koh-tao-witness-court-told/54664

Edited September 1, 2017 by StealthEnergiser

[JLCrab]

Yes I saw it.

[transam]

Can someone tell me where Dave's DNA was found on the Hoe, head or handle...Where...?

[AGareth2]

27 minutes ago, transam said:

Can someone tell me where Dave's DNA was found on the Hoe, head or handle...Where...?

I think it was on the handle

I remember discussions about David possibly defending himself with the hoe

[Rimmer]

Some off topic baiting troll posts have been removed also replies

[transam]

1 minute ago, AGareth2 said:

I think it was on the handle

I remember discussions about David possibly defending himself with the hoe

Thanks, my picture is building....

[JimP]

Innocent men.  The real killer's family can be seen in the opening scenes of a documentary on the subject. TIT. 

[JimP]

On 8/21/2017 at 0:05 PM, z42 said:

 

These poor boys are done for. But looking at the situation back home in Rakhine state I doubt their existence there would be ideal either.

I wish them well, but this setup works best for Thailand's face even though it portrays all those involved as having less morals than a sewer rat

I agree with most of your post, but they wouldn't be in shackles back in their home country.  They had to come to Thailand for that experience. 

Edited September 1, 2017 by JimP
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[bannork]

3 hours ago, StealthEnergiser said:

sure you did

 

maybe you missed this 

 

This could of been what happened .

 

Sean,Hannah,David sitting on the log playing Guitar singing.

 

Drunken thugs come a long start pushing shoving a fight breaks out. 

 

Sean is  hit but escaped thats why blood was all over the guitar and his cut arm but he manages to take  off and he recognised them all and try to hide.

 

Calls media when he is found to save his life tweets photo's of suspects.

 

Sean has had his life threatened by Mon and the other cop plus  headman have done research quickly on Sean past underage girls i think.

 

They killed David first most likely then killed Hannah as she saw it all.

 

Set her up in a position to look like she was raped and went looking for scapegoats.

 

Village headman and cops are also holding something else against Sean like an  underage person willing to step forward at anytime if he speaks.

 

Sean has to be let go as too much media attention but in my opinion he is the man that could help the b2 to be released.

 

a little recap here

http://www.dvb.no/news/police-tried-to-manipulate-koh-tao-witness-court-told/54664

I think the underage girl incident was mentioned much much later, some girl Sean met in the UK on the internet a few years before if I remember right. What the headman or bar owner brought up was the blood on the guitar which Sean claimed was due to a motorbike accident a few days before.

An expert looking at the spray pattern might be able to throw further light on that claim.

If the above poster is right then why would Sean remain silent now? 

Of course if Sean was involved, his continual silence is more understandable, if still morally repugnant.

[rockingrobin]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

I think the underage girl incident was mentioned much much later, some girl Sean met in the UK on the internet a few years before if I remember right. What the headman or bar owner brought up was the blood on the guitar which Sean claimed was due to a motorbike accident a few days before.

An expert looking at the spray pattern might be able to throw further light on that claim.

If the above poster is right then why would Sean remain silent now? 

Of course if Sean was involved, his continual silence is more understandable, if still morally repugnant.

Mon claimed an employee had helped to wash blood of Sean on the night of the murders, and this prompted the  questioning of Mcanna by Mon and off duty policeman in the bar

[bannork]

7 minutes ago, rockingrobin said:

Mon claimed an employee had helped to wash blood of Sean on the night of the murders, and this prompted the  questioning of Mcanna by Mon and off duty policeman in the bar

Yes, I remember Mon saying that.  A photo of the blood on the guitar.that Sean said came from losing balance  driving the motorbike whilst carrying 2 bags and the guitar.