Shinawatra legacy hanging over Pheu Thai party’s leadership choice

[halloween]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Have to agree with you that the Dem have a different funding method. These wealthy individuals and companies don't take seats but they benefit from having their party in the government. You forgot the big Sor Phor Kor land projects and land rights distribution in Phuket that went to their cronies and brought down Chuan's tenure. How convenient. 

Stick to the subject, Eric. Ancient democrat history hardly rates as relevant to Shinawatra influence. Strange that you support a party being removed for corruption while brown nosing the Shins.

Edited August 24, 2017 by halloween

[halloween]

Just now, smutcakes said:

You dont think previous coups have benefited political parties? Namely the Democrats who cannot win and election, and even more so Bhujumthai.

 

Obviously I don't, which doesn't explain why you do. Can you explain how being side-lined is a benefit?

[smutcakes]

Just now, halloween said:

Obviously I don't, which doesn't explain why you do. Can you explain how being side-lined is a benefit?

 

So Democrats getting into power after a coup when otherwise they would have no chance, is not benefiting them?

[worgeordie]

“Our party has many capable people with experience in running the country", into the ground,

who ever becomes leader, will only be a puppet,with a fugitive,overseas pulling the strings.

regards Worgeordie

[scorecard]

6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

While there is no doubt that the Shin family will be very influential in the party for many years to come, I truly hope that they choose an outsider, non-family member as Leader.

 

Thailand needs a party to challenge the Bangkok elite, and it would proceed much more smoothly without a Shin family member in charge.

 

Perhaps then the 'establishment' might actually have to come up with policies that attract supporters rather than whinge endlessly about the opposition.

 

"...without a Shin family member in charge."

 

Never going to happeen:

 

- PT is not a party.

- It's a nefarious unethical gang of salaried yes men who will do whatever without hesitation and with no conscience to get their noses in the trough. Owned totally by the paymaster.   

 

Does anybody seriously believe the paymaster will give up total control of his gang of thieves?

 

Never.

Edited August 24, 2017 by scorecard

[halloween]

37 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

 

So Democrats getting into power after a coup when otherwise they would have no chance, is not benefiting them?

Completely illogical thinking making a false assumption of cause and result. TRT were disbanded for breaking electoral law, SOP for shin parties, being caught at bribery, and suffering the consequences. A faction got a better offer and changed sides. Yes a benefit for the Democrats of the Shins total disregard of the law, particularly electoral law. But the coup was over, an election had been held.

[smutcakes]

1 minute ago, halloween said:

Completely illogical thinking making a false assumption of cause and result. TRT were disbanded for breaking electoral law, SOP for shin parties, being caught at bribery, and suffering the consequences. A faction got a better offer and changed sides. Yes a benefit for the Democrats of the Shins total disregard of the law, particularly electoral law. But the coup was over, an election had been held.

In short, the Democrats benefited from the coup? Before the coup they had no chance, after the coup they were in power.

[halloween]

4 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

In short, the Democrats benefited from the coup? Before the coup they had no chance, after the coup they were in power.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Before the coup they had a small chance, after the coup they LOST. Is that a benefit? They got into office because TRT was caught cheating during the election. How did the coup cause THAT?

[Eric Loh]

58 minutes ago, halloween said:

Stick to the subject, Eric. Ancient democrat history hardly rates as relevant to Shinawatra influence. Strange that you support a party being removed for corruption while brown nosing the Shins.

Avoidance doesn't mean that anyone can ignore the fact that there are 2 organizations that have been around since 1932 and they take turn in milking the country and fattening their bank accounts and helping their cronies get rich.

 

The oldest political party has been a establishment party that has only benefit their rich supporters and has done nothing for the poor. The military is on a class of their own with full immunity to rape the country. Both organizations that you support. Strange and sad. 

[smutcakes]

16 minutes ago, halloween said:

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Before the coup they had a small chance, after the coup they LOST. Is that a benefit? They got into office because TRT was caught cheating during the election. How did the coup cause THAT?

No they got into power because the army held a coup and then engineered the Bhumjumthai to switch sides so the Democrats could form a Govt.

[halloween]

45 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Avoidance doesn't mean that anyone can ignore the fact that there are 2 organizations that have been around since 1932 and they take turn in milking the country and fattening their bank accounts and helping their cronies get rich.

 

The oldest political party has been a establishment party that has only benefit their rich supporters and has done nothing for the poor. The military is on a class of their own with full immunity to rape the country. Both organizations that you support. Strange and sad. 

You are hilarious old son. Why don't you the 3rd organisation, not been around so long, but also highly successful in enriching themselves?

 

As you raised the subject, just how much do you think Thaksin has stolen from the Thai people, starting with his corrupt RTP computer contract, his monopoly on mobile phones, Myanmar loans, KTB fraud, President Agri, Siam Indiga, and everything else up until now?