Former Thai PM Yingluck Shinawatra has fled Thailand for Singapore - report

[mommysboy]

I'm pretty sure corruption is now deemed to be worse than before. 

 

Unfortunately for the junta, everything they do, some of which may be good, will be forever tainted by the manner in which they came to power, and the failure to submit to democratic election.

 

[jayboy]

 
Well.. absolutely they were elected regardless of your view of the electoral process.  And the junta was not!
 
It is reasoning like this which makes it impossible to discuss matters with people who are clearly unable to see reality.

There is a simple test available to sort out the intelligent supporters of the military government and the dullards.The latter ALWAYS place "farmers suicides" as a central piece of their case.


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[newnative]

Too funny.  Keep an eye out for the Red Bull dude, too.

[Becker]

3 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

Public forums in police reform started this week. Not an easy process and no guarantees anything will happen. But I've seen improvements the past few years. Sadly, not enough.

Which areas do you see improvement in?

Corruption

Press freedom

Human freedom

 

The junta organizing public forums? I wonder if it will be anything like the public forums in preparation for the "referendum".

[Becker]

3 hours ago, louse1953 said:

I read a year back doesnt cut it,pathetic slander.Prove it in court.

Why?

[maxcorrigan]

21 hours ago, harada said:

 The land of smiles. 

That is almost a smirk on Uncle Ps face when he states he does'nt know where she is!

[mikecha]

Being an x pat here i will say it is as it is  

corruption  is everywhere      all frangs get ripped off sometime there are  two things take it or leave

it stay and smile or go back to what ever you left and start again

 

if the country does have an uprise expats are the first to get the hitting stick  

beleave me i was in pakistan when 911 went off the day before could not have a better time the day after when  the world accusations came in the papers we had to move out fast could be the same in the los   lets not jump to conclusions

the junta has done what it can to keep things calm and she is in exile for the time {good for her}

all   just keep smiling and dont put silly comments here do your thing and if the  situation detereates have a plan ready  

 

We can do nothing on politics here no vote right we are guests   cant own much but a great place to live 

 

[Baerboxer]

On 8/25/2017 at 5:17 PM, alzack said:

absolutly right lets hope her and brov do it

 

You are joking? A kleptocracy in exile, headed by a brother and sister, one of whom is a convicted criminal who broke bail to flee from a prison sentence and the other who jumped bail and fled the day of a verdict?

 

Who do you think would recognize it? Even Hun Sen and Mugabe ain't that daft.

[metisdead]

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[Baerboxer]

8 minutes ago, choudens said:

 

 

both have been elected and all these Court cases are politically motivated and concerning Yingluk the decision has been already taken by our Dear Leader in 2014! why to recognize the Junta instead of the elected Government PM?

 

No, the Shiniwattra's claim all the cases are politically motivated. Thaksin never appealed his conviction, nor did he deny the charge. The Krungthai Bank fraud certainly isn't political. Yingluck never defended the actual charge of negligence or tried to explain why she wasn't negligent. But claiming "it's all political" is, they hope, a good enough diversion.

There seems a selectivity on which cases to investigate and prosecute - that could be argued to be political. But does not excuse the ones that are tried.

 

How many governments have you seen not recognize the current Thai government? Whilst many strongly urge, and still do, a return to democracy, which is quite correct, none have imposed sanctions.  

[macgver]

Rapture???

[Wan123]

This nutty country always lives up to the tourism brand, "Amazing Thialand"! I am not sure what the former PM did, but the endemic corruption surrounding the rice scheme was not necessarily out of character for this country, and not necessarily her fault. The real problem is this: the courts, the political system, seems to not be able to create a political context of forgiveness. Even the most corrupt bastards in America forgive each other every four years, and start their own corrupt administration. America is full of corruption in a political, manipulative way. Of course, the national debt speaks to the entire problem. But in Thailand, they want everybody to go to jail. It's nutty for politicians, even generals, to subscribe to this, and guarantees political instability. The current PM should simply request amnesty for Yinkluck, which would resolve these issues at hand. Leaving the country is not the solution, but putting yourself at the crazy Thai court system is nutty as well. You can see she doesn't trust the courts! That says alot. I doubt her intentions were anything but well-intentioned. She had enough money. The real issue is creating an economy that works for everybody. So the government can hire economists to give them solutions that work, rather than arm-chair quarter-backing; perhaps more free trade would allow people to make money, especially if this franchise would be available to people from these impoverished areas. Since goods are not available under the current economic import tax due to prohibitive taxes, creating a free trade situation would allow for greater economic growth because Gross Domestic Product= Velocity of Money X Money Supply. Therefore, if these people had more items to sell, the exchange of goods would produce a velocity of money explosion, and the economy would benefit from the multiplier effect!  At present, most foreign goods don't make it here. Change  that and things would look better. The government can still have a nominal tax on imports (7%) and VAT etc, so they would get something as well. Now they get nothing. How does this benefit the country? Protectionism to the current extent is counter productive. 

[metisdead]

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[Tharathorn]

she actually fled and left her son in thailand.that really tells what kind of person yingluck is.

[lungbing]

Yes, she's somebody who doesn't want to be jailed for 42 years.

[soalbundy]

17 minutes ago, Tharathorn said:

she actually fled and left her son in thailand.that really tells what kind of person yingluck is.

Her son is a teenager and will no doubt be able to join her when he wants to. She wouldn't be able to see him much if she was jailed for 10 years.

[soalbundy]

13 minutes ago, lungbing said:

Yes, she's somebody who doesn't want to be jailed for 42 years.

10 years was quoted not 42. Even 10 years in a Thai prison would make the most hardy of us want to flee if we had the chance, it isn't as if she has run over a cop and killed him while under the influence.

[sjaak327]

4 hours ago, soalbundy said:

10 years was quoted not 42. Even 10 years in a Thai prison would make the most hardy of us want to flee if we had the chance, it isn't as if she has run over a cop and killed him while under the influence.

Indeed, doing that will not have any consequences, at least if you have the right surname...

[Freddy Spooner]

thailand was, is and will always be a big big mess

[Siripon]

9 hours ago, lungbing said:

Yes, she's somebody who doesn't want to be jailed for 42 years.

Maximum jail time for her offence was 10 years. If she had even been given 10 ( unlikely in my opinion, more likely to have been 5), she would have been out after 2 or 3 years with good behaviour. Her life in jail would have been comfortable, the junta would not dare risk any blood poisoning etc, she would have emerged as a heroine for the working class

But that was asking too much from her. She had never had to sacrifice anything to enter politics, no long path to the top, attending meetings, meeting the people, getting herself well known as a fixer, a can do person.

No, without any experience or previous interest in politics, she was handed the premiership on a plate by Thaksin. His clone as he said at the time.

Easy come, easy go as they say.

 

[Siripon]

On 25/8/2560 at 0:56 PM, khunpa said:

I never understood why she did not just run a long time ago. We all know the outcome of the trial. But guess she just stayed as long as she could.

Guessing of course like everyone else, but perhaps Thaksin wanted her to stay to play the martyr role if she got jail time. However,  once she realized the range of clothing and boots available in the prison shop was rather limited  she changed her mind. 

[anto]

4 hours ago, Freddy Spooner said:

thailand was, is and will always be a big big mess

The Whole World is .

[brewsterbudgen]

Maximum jail time for her offence was 10 years. If she had even been given 10 ( unlikely in my opinion, more likely to have been 5), she would have been out after 2 or 3 years with good behaviour. Her life in jail would have been comfortable, the junta would not dare risk any blood poisoning etc, she would have emerged as a heroine for the working class
But that was asking too much from her. She had never had to sacrifice anything to enter politics, no long path to the top, attending meetings, meeting the people, getting herself well known as a fixer, a can do person.
No, without any experience or previous interest in politics, she was handed the premiership on a plate by Thaksin. His clone as he said at the time.
Easy come, easy go as they say.
 

I doubt she had a choice. The last thing the government wanted was a martyr in jail. She was spirited away by the powers that be!

[anto]

So she took a private jet directly from Thailand to Singapore .Sounds logical and the easiest method .The Plane could have taken off from any provincial Airport .

People were coming up with the wildest notions of her travelling to KohChang and a Helicopter over into Cambodia .Then on to PP to pick up a Cambodian passport .All totally unnecessary when you have unlimited money and the Junta actually wants you to leave . 

[steven100]

18 minutes ago, anto said:

So she took a private jet directly from Thailand to Singapore .Sounds logical and the easiest method .The Plane could have taken off from any provincial Airport .

People were coming up with the wildest notions of her travelling to KohChang and a Helicopter over into Cambodia .Then on to PP to pick up a Cambodian passport .All totally unnecessary when you have unlimited money and the Junta actually wants you to leave . 

No ....  apparently she's fled to Dubai ....   she's at her brothers mansion.

[Naam]

6 hours ago, Freddy Spooner said:

thailand was, is and will always be a big big mess

that's the beauty of Thailand!

[LannaGuy]

51 minutes ago, steven100 said:

No ....  apparently she's fled to Dubai ....   she's at her brothers mansion.

You have evidence?  links?  that type of thing?   when you say 'fled' don't you mean 'enabled' or 'escorted'? or 'warned'?  

 

I mean even you don't think that all those cops and army around her house suddenly realised she'd gone?  

 

The Junta 'made it happened' so stop calling it 'fled' as if she crept out on tip-toe and no one knew. She was told 'GO' and that is not about cowardice and all the other phrases being used  it's about 'GO or else'

[steven100]

3 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

You have evidence?  links?  that type of thing?   when you say 'fled' don't you mean 'enabled' or 'escorted'? or 'warned'?  

 

I mean even you don't think that all those cops and army around her house suddenly realised she'd gone?  

 

The Junta 'made it happened' so stop calling it 'fled' as if she crept out on tip-toe and no one knew. She was told 'GO' and that is not about cowardice and all the other phrases being used  it's about 'GO or else'

oh Lanna ... stop supporting that rubbish .. lol

[LannaGuy]

Just now, steven100 said:

oh Lanna ... stop supporting that rubbish .. lol

 

Mr Steven we may not agree but even you know the Junta facilitated her departure right? and if that is the case then she hardly 'escaped'. Or are you trying to tell me the Junta did not know where she is?  they have been tailing her for years!  come on now even you cannot believe she slipped passed the 4000 police un-noticed  LOL

[bbpbbp]

I am so worried for Yinluck !

 

I wonder if she was able to carry all her Chanel bags and choose ? Or maybe someone can send them to her later ?

 

And if she goes to UK, won't she feel cold ?

 

I am so worried ! Hope that she will be fine !