Widespread flooding brings more traffic chaos to Pattaya

[snoop1130]

Widespread flooding brings more traffic chaos to Pattaya

 

 

Tnews reported that heavy and continual rainfall last night left deep floodwater on many Pattaya roads.

 

Some were impassable and the rain was continuing to fall, they said.

 

Worst sports were Sukhumvit Road all the way from south Pattaya to central Pattaya in both directions.

 

The Khao Talo - Khao Noi railway road saw depths of 30-50 centimeters meaning smaller vehicles and motorcycles could not pass.

 

Tnews issued warnings to motorists to take care as the risk of accidents remained high in the wet weather.

 

No mention was made of the situation in the new Pattaya tunnel that many fear will be subject to flooding.

 

Source: http://www.tnews.co.th/contents/353258

 

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[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

No mention was made of the situation in the new Pattaya tunnel that many fear will be subject to flooding.

...because it will never flood. Ever.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

The Khao Talo - Khao Noi railway road saw depths of 30-50 centimeters meaning smaller vehicles and motorcycles could not pass.

...but it didn't stop them trying.

[shaurene]

They will never comments if the tunnel floods, it was a well know FACT it would. An  absolute disastrous decision. So much cheaper and easy to build a long fly over. But probably the fly over deal would only be large brown envelopes and the tunnel one was large suit cass. 

[YetAnother]

48 minutes ago, shaurene said:

They will never comments if the tunnel floods, it was a well know FACT it would. An  absolute disastrous decision. So much cheaper and easy to build a long fly over. But probably the fly over deal would only be large brown envelopes and the tunnel one was large suit cass. 

i asked a thai engineer friend: 'so without corruption, nothing gets done ?';; he kept quiet

[Juan B Tong]

Maybe they pump the water onto Sukhumvut!  

[johng]

Early in the build tunnel construction was delayed while they put in some large (about 2 meter diameter) drain pipes
at the site.
Where they drain to and how long before they are blocked with rubbish and mud is unknown.
Also one of the stated reasons for delayed opening was they had to find skilled operators to run the tunnel
(still not found ? )...maybe they have an elaborate pumping system just in case ?

[NanLaew]

4 hours ago, shaurene said:

They will never comments if the tunnel floods, it was a well know FACT it would. An  absolute disastrous decision. So much cheaper and easy to build a long fly over. But probably the fly over deal would only be large brown envelopes and the tunnel one was large suit cass. 

How can something be a 'FACT' if it hasn't happened yet?

 

Look at the picture in the OP.

That's looking south to the Pattaya Tai traffic lights with a surface elevation of 57' and it is dry FACT.

It floods at the u-turn opposite the gas station where the surface elevation is only 48' FACT. 

It can't flood at the southern end of the tunnel where the surface elevation is 91' FACT. 

It can't flood at the northern end where the surface elevation is 80' FACT.

The ramp to Highway 7 is at 92' FACT.

The lowest spot between the north end of the tunnel and the highway ramp is 72' FACT.

The highest spot is above the ENCLOSED tunnel at the Klang junction at 112' FACT.

 

Water doesn't run uphill FACT.

[ExpatOilWorker]

16 hours ago, NanLaew said:

...because it will never flood. Ever.

Is the new tunnel anywhere near these areas?

[johng]

^^^^

That looks like the aftermath of Vamco

The tunnel looked flooded then

 

 

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Is the new tunnel anywhere near these areas?

No. That's the same u-turn as in the picture in the OP but taken from the pedestrian footbridge just north of the Pattaya Tai traffic lights, looking north. It is the lowest point of Sukhumvit as mentioned earlier. It is almost 1.2 km away and about 13 meters lower than the south end of the tunnel.

Edited September 1, 2017 by NanLaew

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, johng said:

^^^^

That looks like the aftermath of Vamco

The tunnel looked flooded then

 

 

But it wasn't. That's the water pooling around the sides and on top of the concrete caissons.

Edited September 1, 2017 by NanLaew

[MJCM]

4 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Is the new tunnel anywhere near these areas?

These are VERY old pictures. 2012 ?

 

Edit: Nope 2011.

 

http://pattayadailynews.com/false-alarm-photo-of-pattaya-floods-on-facebook/

Edited September 1, 2017 by MJCM

[Blinky62]

How can something be a 'FACT' if it hasn't happened yet?
 
Look at the picture in the OP.
That's looking south to the Pattaya Tai traffic lights with a surface elevation of 57' and it is dry FACT.
It floods at the u-turn opposite the gas station where the surface elevation is only 48' FACT. 
It can't flood at the southern end of the tunnel where the surface elevation is 91' FACT. 
It can't flood at the northern end where the surface elevation is 80' FACT.
The ramp to Highway 7 is at 92' FACT.
The lowest spot between the north end of the tunnel and the highway ramp is 72' FACT.
The highest spot is above the ENCLOSED tunnel at the Klang junction at 112' FACT.
 
Water doesn't run uphill FACT.

One day you will get to drive through a tunnel , it will be an amazing experience for you , fact , water can run up hill . They have magic machines called pumps . Sorry to blow your bubble , but there are tens of thousands of tunnels all around the world , under rivers and oceans and everything else , and no they don't close at the first sight of rain [emoji299]️. Stay dry out there.


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[NanLaew]

20 minutes ago, MJCM said:

These are VERY old pictures. 2012 ?

 

Edit: Nope 2011.

 

http://pattayadailynews.com/false-alarm-photo-of-pattaya-floods-on-facebook/

...and nowhere near the tunnel.

[NanLaew]

4 minutes ago, Blinky62 said:

One day you will get to drive through a tunnel , it will be an amazing experience for you , fact , water can run up hill . They have magic machines called pumps . Sorry to blow your bubble , but there are tens of thousands of tunnels all around the world , under rivers and oceans and everything else , and no they don't close at the first sight of rain ️. Stay dry out there.


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Driven through the high and dry Pattaya tunnel one morning last February or March when they opened the south bound lanes one morning during construction on the southbound feeder. It was just like any other rather underwhelming tunnel transit.

 

This is about the built-on-top-of-a-hill Pattaya tunnel, not "tens of thousands of tunnels all around the world , under rivers and oceans and everything else" that may need artificial lift to get water moving against gravity. Unless they run the Pattaya tunnel emergency water pumps backwards, it won't be filling up any time soon.

[johnnybgood]

If there is no electric?
Will they have had the foresight to install a diesel genny ?
(with an inertia starter in case the battery goes missing).

[billrose]

1 hour ago, johnnybgood said:

If there is no electric?
Will they have had the foresight to install a diesel genny ?
(with an inertia starter in case the battery goes missing).

Water flows downhill naturally (away from the tunnel), It doesn't need a pump or electricity to flow downhill (away from the tunnel).

It will take a miracle or a pump for water to flow uphill (into the tunnel)!

[janclaes47]

24 minutes ago, billrose said:

Water flows downhill naturally (away from the tunnel), It doesn't need a pump or electricity to flow downhill (away from the tunnel).

It will take a miracle or a pump for water to flow uphill (into the tunnel)!

 

I'm sure you must have notice that only the very entrance point of the ramp is higher, and that at both sides of that entrance point it goes downhill.

 

At both sides of the tunnel is about 300 meter uncovered ramp, which get wet during rains, and I doubt as you say that the water falling on the ramp will flow uphill to avoid ending up at the lowest point of the tunnel.

 

 

 

Edited September 2, 2017 by janclaes47

[ExpatOilWorker]

20 hours ago, Blinky62 said:

One day you will get to drive through a tunnel , it will be an amazing experience for you , fact , water can run up hill . They have magic machines called pumps . Sorry to blow your bubble , but there are tens of thousands of tunnels all around the world , under rivers and oceans and everything else , and no they don't close at the first sight of rain ️. Stay dry out there.


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Does these magic machines need maintenance?

[NanLaew]

22 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Does these magic machines need maintenance?

Probably just as much as the pumps at the Pattaya poop farm did.

 

Are you volunteering?