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20 hours ago, KannikaP said:

What are the state of emergency rules please, anyone?

No Tiki, no Shirty

17 hours ago, YetAnother said:

they get a receipt ?

Handing back money, very strange, maybe some got overpaid and others didn't 

17 hours ago, fruitman said:

What's that?? Not in a hotel like we have to?

They will probably be living it up on the Army beach in Hua Hin from there they can go on a tour of the thousands of empty condos along the coast from Cha Amm and snap up some bargains 

10 minutes ago, n00dle said:

 it takes a special kind of fellow to turn the covid discussion to sex tourism.

Are we supposed to be impressed or did you just feel the need to share?

c19 is the excuse for a world overrun by sociopaths and over populated , it was going to happen, freddy and fanny the first dose, now , nowhere to put money, other than 0 percent banks, or try Bitcoin or buy antiques, classic cars or gold if you want to run to late. 

Tragic is tragic, that's what all you posters have to think about , and I wish I could come back, soon, maybe Xmas , at least the Thai genuine people still can joking and make fun,

6 hours ago, hotchilli said:

With many European countries, USA and other nations all sliding back into lock-down measures or experiencing higher infection rates you could change optimistic to a racing certainty.

The heat , was ruled out it will never affect c19 numbers, and now winter approaches europe and c19 goes mad it still does not play a role in statistics

Were were going on a summer holiday, now were are cough freaks, unemployed, the world a crisis, printing money for the rich, and 2 sociopaths running for president of disneyland.

7 minutes ago, flexomike said:

what, no bacon

7 minutes ago, flexomike said:

what, no bacon

The BBC produced a documentary, they put people in grounds next to chimpanzee, they had to eat only raw vegetables, amazingly most who stayed in the trial had reversed diabetes and heart disease , those who  pulled out and went back to eating Mcdonalds  had there bad health return in a s little as 2 weeks.

Capsule cameras swallowed by participants  showed meat taking days to pass through their bowels.

Cholesterol levels plummeted . Diabetes reversed.

Now for those uninformed unilever Donald trump fans watch  "{ What the Health) on You Tube, maybe watch it twice or three times.

3 minutes ago, khunPer said:

It's really depending on the amount of butter you use, if modest then I wouldn't care, and instead enjoy my food, which might be much healthier than any health-advises, namely feeling feeling happy when dining.

 

If you use a lot of spread on your bread, perhaps consider to reduce it a bit.

 

One of my youth pals is today one of the Worlds leading obesity scientist, and recent studies (2016) from his group shows, that plant oil based margarine is not healthier than butter, and that cheese reduce the amount of cholesterol.

 

I found a recently published article in English (July 2019) "Time to stop talking about saturated fat?" from his work in University of Copenhagen HERE.

 

As a small real-life remark:  My dad always used butter as spread, but only little – even that my mom and I talked about that he should use the healthier plant oil margarine, which we used – however, in spite of his continuously butter-use, he managed 104½ years, of which 104 years were sports active; the major thing was that he was always happily enjoyed his meals, and he din't forget to mention it...????

It is well known that margarine is more harmful than butter.

Unilever is a BIg Pharma drug pusher, do you believe that roundup and Dupont/ monsanto do not tell porkies,

Just look at non stick fry pans that Dupont poisoned the world with, poisened  Verginias rivers, have had a massive law suite against them , dirty water a good doco.

The chemicals produced by them are called Never Never, never leave your body. Sorry Mr Unilever.

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I was a chemist at Unilever, I know what goes into margarine, and the composition of butter. Perhaps you could post your superior experience and academic qualifications.

Obviously, you don't consider genetic predisposition to be a factor in heart disease.

No not at all. people who gulp sugar and Burgers have no genetic relationship to heart disease.

Just in common they guzzle Krap .

And I am well read in medical science, more than you could contemplate.

On 10/7/2020 at 9:15 PM, sanuk711 said:

No its not cjinchangrai...although some places in Thailand do charge a silly amount. I think someone who has done a Thai will should post it on here as a template. (with their names etc blanked out of course.) most of my meager assets  are in Oz, where buying a will and getting it witnessed free from a JP is an easy task.

The only thing I have to worry about is my bank acc in LOS, but that can easily be remedied as my wife can get access just by phoning them. Could not believe it, one day I lost my ATM card and she rang them and cancelled it no questions asked.

I don't leave much porridge in there.

Your wife has more authority than most think.

2 minutes ago, Jimbo53 said:

This Numpty is also Deĺuty PM ,now that for me is scarier than Covid! 

Can you.imagine the country being run by this numbskull!????????

The ones smiling are the most dangerous

17 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

How convenient to bring that into the equation.

You might have noticed, despite numerous, well attended protests against your lot, the Thai Covid figures remain the same !

You can put that down to Albert Einstein, not many people know he has distant cousins in LOS> 

7 minutes ago, polpott said:

Why put him on ignore? We all need a bit of comedy in our lives. I'm going to miss Trump.

It is a sad day, when we have to watch sociopathic gangsters standing for the top jobs.

I would rather vote for the muppets, the old guys on the balcony, than entertain my mind with one thought from these controlled puppets.

Guess what ,Donald loves the guy that's name starts with P

14 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

I think they are fed up to work extra hours to complete applications just to learn afterwards that another extension of "amnesty" is granted by the government like last time and those betting on it were the winners laughing at foreigners having queued for hours.

 

Please don't tell them that the expats that remain in LOS are boosting the economy, even the ones that are locked out have to pay their bills , however STV sounds like a transmitted disease

4 hours ago, jerolamo said:

if you want to save your country, remove the fake experts paid by big-pharma industries to propagate fear to wait for a blackmail process vaccine to come...

Easy to investigate and detect, just do it and show/speak true.

What was that guys name in star wars 

Mr Jabberwocky. 

May be getting ready now for the biggest Chinese vaccine jabs ever delivered the world record for jabbing will save Thailand. 

2 hours ago, jobas69 said:

I would swear this government go on the <deleted> in each night and come up with all there new ideas and plans after a dozen or so beers 

I always wondered how the breweries were staying afloat 

14 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Really?  What makes her think that they will be spending any money in the long term as the looming political crisis and economic fallout have not even hit a fevered pitch yet.  So many hopeful people in this world who have nothing except wishful thinking, and their own views, instead of looking truly at the bigger picture.

 

She is Hopeful isn't she.  I see it being down 80%, and that's not from some lofty perch she sits upon.  Looks like another one wanted their 15 minutes of fame as well.  Can not be forgotten can they.  Living on past laurels..

Maybe, she has privileged information, 

Mr Monsoon has guaranteed that Mr Jabber will deliver the Chinese vaccine in a way that will guarantee the return of tourists, they will pull the boarding of the hotels in Chiang Mai to reveal new gold shops and maybe casinos 

22 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The week that was in Thailand news: “Ngong pai mot”: Don’t worry, being confused is part of living in Thailand

 

 

Thailand seemed to be having an identity crisis this week. Add to that the fact that every government ministry, department and even spokesman is going off on their own never converging tangent. It leaves the rest of us in a state of utter confusion and reminds me of a word I always taught my foreign Thai language students.
 
That is งง or ngong – easy to spell, it doesn’t even have a vowel, just an assumed one. Fiendishly hard to say for those not familiar with the tongue dexterity (sorry I didn’t study linguistics and don’t know the technical terms) or language background needed to articulate an opening “Ng” sound. But beautifully simple and guaranteed a laugh if you can pronounce it correctly. (Probably more guffaws if you can’t).
 
When accompanied by a few words to give context and aid in the interlocutor’s understanding such as “phom ngong pai mot khrap” or “that’s completely flummoxed me” it can really hit home and grab a Thai’s attention.
 
I used to say such an expression will hold you in good stead in Thailand and can be used very frequently. Almost as much as “lot noi dai mai khrap” – “could you make that cheaper, kind sir?”
 
My students were not to worry about why they were perplexed, however. It wasn’t just the visitor who was confused. Even if you had been here yonks and studied the language and culture it could be utterly baffling. Even the Thais struggle with comprehending it all.
 
Consequently, the natives come up with many expressions to hide their own bewilderment that are usually summed up for any perplexed foreigner with a smile and a swift delivery of the all-encompassing term:
 
“Amazing Thailand!”
 
They leave it at that (especially if your Thai language skills are lacking).
 
Those that think they can figure out Thailand invariably come a cropper when the “truth”, such as it is, emerges. They are just those bar stool numpties out to impress the new arrival with their profound knowledge of Thai culture gleaned from years of imagining that the Thai mother-in-law is badmouthing them when she is really asking how many chilies he can manage.
 
A case of confusion this week was a simple and relatively unimportant matter in the grand scheme of things. Next weekend’s cultural festival of Loy Krathong. A charming occasion when Thais of all descriptions come together in secular harmony to float away their worries on boats made of banana leaf, chrysanthemums and joss-sticks. They may need to be Titanic-esque given what we have endured this year.
 
Being a full moon day it falls on a different date but this year it’s the same night as Halloween. This is leading to some contradictory messages especially as Loy Krathong doesn’t have the force of a Buddhist holiday or royal celebration and is not even a day off.
 
It’s one of few days in the year when everyone in Thailand actually goes to work though they usually take the next one off due hangovers.
 
This is by-the-by as it will be a Saturday, October 31st. So why the confusion?
 
The culture minister stated his fervent hope that all his compatriots will come together in the MOAT (the Mother of All Thai-ness) and float away their problems dressed in traditional Thai costume. Pretty standard that one. Culture ministers always put their heads above the parapets on traditional days or when pretties at the Motor Show twerk too aggressively.
 
Meanwhile in Bangkok, guv’nor General Aswin said that he would be giving away zillions in prizes for the best scary Halloween costume in an event to mark the revamping of Khao San Road. Halloween is one of those events adopted by Thais, like Christmas, to boost the retail sector.
 
My outfit is a shoe-in for the top prize – a grotesque ministerial rubber head adorned with a khaki surgical mask complimented with a white doctor’s tunic borrowed from a deputy high up in the health ministry. Finished off with clown’s feet that can easily be inserted in the mouth. I tried it out on my kids – they were scared witless – even though no blood was necessary to complete the illusion.
 
It will be interesting if any young people, or even the middle classes, dress similarly next weekend.
 
Meanwhile, the confusion was further exacerbated by what is planned in QUOTES (the Queen Of The Eastern Seaboard). Central announced that this year’s concept for the “Bikini Beach Run” – yes, October 31st as well - would be to have it at night and make everybody glow in the dark. A bit like Chernobyl without radiation.
 
In addition – and somewhat removed from the culture minister’s stance – fun-runners would be encouraged to “rub shoulders” with ladies described as “E-Cups”. It’s almost worth putting on running shoes to see what that might mean!
 
Anyway, I expect that as always Thais and what foreigners there are in Thailand will enjoy themselves whatever their bent next Saturday. Either that or ask the authorities to have a word with the moon to adjust its schedule.
 
They’d probably try.
 
That we will no longer be under curfew for the celebrations came as a relief to many this week. Prayut – a tad surprisingly and looking a bit like Gary Cooper – lifted the latest emergency decree at High Noon Thursday saying things had settled down enough. Strange, as I was reading about tens of thousands on the streets of varying colors.
 
What this strategy may mean sent the Thaivisa forum into a tailspin that made “ngong” look like an understatement. Some hailed the move, others suspected ulterior motives. Maybe the authorities had overplayed their hand, even overstepped the mark and needed to backtrack. I’ll leave it at that. The new media restrictions were lifted but we still have the regular ones.
 
Confusion – Mega Ngong if you like – reigned after the arrival of the first batch of Chinese tourists in Bangkok on Tuesday. Were they really tourists at all? Conspiracy theories abounded.
 
The media and the government couldn’t even decide how many there were. Sanook said 41, Anutin said 40 and print media went with 39. Hopefully the disparity didn’t mean the odd one managed to sneak off for a surreptitious prawn buffet undetected.
 
A video showed the tourists in masks, shields and raincoats even though the monsoon had abated. They were putting possessions in plastic bags. “Welcome to Thailand!” one media caption exclaimed in transliteration. Welcome indeed; if one British guy’s description of the “prison-like” quarantine, the last in “The Stranded” series, is to be believed, it won’t be a bed of kulaaps.
 
In Pattaya business leaders claimed Thai consulates in Russia were telling tourists they couldn’t get the “much coveted” Certificate of Entry. They seemed unaware that the resort was offering its own local state quarantine. Then Mega Ngong became Ultra Mega Ngong when the Chinese extended their ban on outgoing tours as well as instigating one for inbound tourists.
 
This all had Thai tourism minister Pipat actually admitting there was “confusion” – rather like the pot belly calling the kettle “dam”. He promised to put the record straight with the Thai foreign ministry and have a word with the Chinese so that their folk would realize they needed just a few bits of paper, a swab or two and could come as independent travelers. Simple!
 
The TAT rep for Asia, Chatthanan, chimed in that he knew the Chinese all wanted to come; they were just waiting to see how the “ambassadorial” first group’s visit would pan out. Another TAT-bod on a video conference call in Pattaya said all Chinese prefer Thailand to their own country for holidays.  
 
The authorities continued to bandy about the idea of reducing quarantine to ten days as if that would make any difference. Then quarantining at golf courses was floated. This seemed a bit rough for those who don’t like golf but par for the course for the Thais grappling to find any band aid for Thai tourism.
 
Incidentally, Thaivisa has begun a series called “Quarantine Tales” about what it is like to undergo that process in Thailand with tips for those who appreciate that jumping through the paperwork hoops and going through the expense and isolation may be the only way they can get back to loved ones, their property, their lives. They are unlikely to be tourists in the usual sense of the word.
 
In other tourism-cum-virus news, busy Pipat admitted that Thailand had taken a 1.57 trillion baht hit compared to last year while that video call between business leaders and TAT reps in Pattaya gave encouragement from China and doom and gloom from Russia and India.
 
It looks like Naan Plaza will have to wait for another year or two.
 
More misery was being experienced in Bangkok and surrounding provinces with the collapse of the housing market. Almost 200,000 properties worth nearly a trillion baht are empty and analysts are calling for the government to continue transfer and stamp duty easing due to end in December.
 
Rooster has had both relative success and failure in the Thai property market. I am grateful that my tenants – albeit at a low rent – are still sending me money!

The collapse of tourism and the dire state of the economy – that has contracted more than 7% - was rather like Koh Talu island in Krabi that crashed into the sea and broke up. A video showed cracks forming before 40,000 tons of rock tumbled.
 
In international news Rudy Giuliani claimed he was set up by Sacha Baron Cohen who entrapped him using an actress posing as a reporter in a hotel room. “I was only tucking myself in after removing recording equipment” said the former mayor of New York. Borat Subsequent Moviefilm is due out imminently so we can be the judge!
 
President Trump and challenger Biden squared off in the final debate less than two weeks before what promises to be a momentous polling day and a historical decision for the American people. In a more restrained debate, the pair clashed over Covid and race and traded corruption barbs. Forty million are reckoned to have voted already.
 
Rooster has ordered extra supplies of 20 baht bags of Taro popcorn.
 
In the UK tougher virus restrictions came in for millions as a spat between Westminster and the leaders in Manchester dominated the news. Not for the first time in history people “oop north” are complaining that the “softy southerners” keep ordering them about.
 
Back in Thailand animal rights and sentencing in the courts featured prominently. A horrific tale of a Chinese tourist who had been rounding up stray cats on Koh Phi Phi then extracting their claws and putting them in hotel fridges soon concluded with his arrest. A six-month suspended prison sentence, 15,000 baht fine and immediate deportation was not enough for many outraged animal lovers on the forum.
 
He claimed that what he did would not be illegal in China and he had no idea about the law in Thailand. Well Mr Chee, we’ve heard that one before.
 
Posters were also incensed by a Phuket man who let the expat side down by dumping his mutt outside the Soi Dog Foundation. His abandoned pet tried to chase him home. A 2,000 baht fine ensued and the forum went predictably ballistic saying it was one rule for foreigners and one for Thais. I recall translating plenty of stories about Thais being handed jail terms for animal cruelty.  
 
A Bangkok court handed down what was described as a lenient sentence for a rather uncivil servant who brandished a gun at a taxi driver outside the Government Complex. Unfortunately, we were left hanging as to what that sentence was.
 
In vaccine news it was announced that Oxford University would be working with a Thai company. This good news brought out the Barmy Bashing Army aiming low blows at foreigners who dared to engage with what they see as a corrupt government. (Anutin denied any such thing when asked by reporters). It’s time to put such considerations aside for the benefit of the common good and appreciate that Thailand has a lot to offer in the medical field.
 
Its credentials in handling the pandemic are not without merit and the success of agencies like the Government Pharmaceutical Organization are well documented.
 
Meanwhile, Thaivisa’s Facebook arm in particular could do without the anti-vaxxers, big pharma bashers and assorted coronavirus conspiracy theorists. Rooster reported more people than ever to Facebook for spouting nonsense on other sites this week. Alternative views are one thing, patent lies and dangerous statements with spurious links quite another.
 
Well done to poster “Mister Whisper” who spotted the most “Trinkisms” in last week’s column. However, some were actually “Roosterisms” and he missed “the resort” (Pattaya), “conflagration” (a favorite word for fire), “you have been warned” and “’nuff said”. Still a good showing and deserving of a tin of Dinty Moore Beef Stew.
 
Finally, I would like to register my appreciative wonder at the US space program for their stellar achievement in landing a spacecraft on the Bennu asteroid 330 million miles from Earth.
 
It was only the briefest of touchdowns to grab a sample of pristine material to help scientists determine the makeup of the early solar system. It remains to be seen how much asteroid NASA’s Osiris-Rex managed to collect and whether it can return successfully home.
 
But this was a stunning human achievement.
 
Rooster
 

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On 10/25/2020 at 7:02 AM, Scott said:

With a tensions running high on the run-up to the US election, who do you think will win the election?  Please make your choice from the options listed.  Remember this is who you think will win the election and not who you want to win the election.

 

Please feel free to post a comment, but unnecessary discussion will be removed.   There are numerous threads with specific issues in which discussion is more important.  Please limit discussion about election related issues, polls and related issues.

 

 

A race between Donald Duck and a Geriatric mumbled mind is to hard to call

3 minutes ago, Winniej said:

Where on that list does it say no tests . 
Trump wouldn’t be able to couldn’t to 10 

I might add,,,, Weather in tropical climates has been touted as having no effect on C19, yet numbers are escalating as winter sets in, in Europe. 

Now the vaccine. Manic ding dongs are scrambling to come up with an,, answer to civil war, how far will they go 

22 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

What a surprise, must be loads of positives walking around, but it was a mild infection for the French woman.

A million or two amongst 65 million and a statics professor with his tounge cut out, hands tied, a selfie addict covered in flowers, what can possibly go wrong 

On 10/23/2020 at 5:02 PM, Grumpy John said:

Send the bill to your mates in Beijing.  They let the Wuhan China virus out so they can make restitution to every country effected.

 

Did you not know, filthy falangs brought the virus, so they all got sent to Pattaya then the borders stayed open to make sure they were all rounded up then when they finished their holiday were sent home to Europe, After this massive exodus Thailand was cleansed. 

It is now apparent that small businesses have been crucified and families can't pay the never, never installments for the pickups, so domestic tourism is not affordable. 

They are just waking up that the trickle down theory has and is dried out. 

My relatives tell me they're putting up barbed wire on the top of the walls

now as crime is on the up. 

Do not fear the compulsory Jabber is near. 

On 10/23/2020 at 3:33 PM, Tropicalevo said:

Except that they were not tourists.

From another spokesman from the CCSA - The successful trip of a government delegation from China.

The STV is not available in most countries, not available yet from NZ or Australia, I suspect only Available to Chinese businesses people, and highly probable they have been vaccinated. Cp group Thailands wealthiest family have been linked to these people in overseas media reports. It has been widely published that the vaccine has been given to CEOs and their children. 

The military have been vaccinated, so this STV could be the Start Tourism Vaccine trial for the mob to flood back into the Land Of the Chinese Jab. 

They are not issuing STV for Sputnik 5 tourists yet. 

6 hours ago, prakhonchai nick said:

most likely on a mission for the Chinese government.

CP group executives, that's who they are Mr Dhanins mates on a shopping spree, quarantine will be a breeze, special service, and I would bet - they've all had a jab of the newly approved C19 vaccine and this trip will be hailed a screaming success Watch this space. 

17 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Who, if infected, could pass it onto any one of these 41 aliens, if it's true, what many posters say, that Thai returnees don't need to be tested before flying !

I helped send 2 Thai girls who were students staying with us at home on the first repat flight to BK. 

They had a fit to fly from the local GP and a declaration form signed that they had not been in a covid area for 2 weeks, all docs had to be less than 72 hours old. They had to do 2 weeks state quarantine on arrival, their mother went into quarantine with them. 

Cost then was 3700 NZ each, quarantine was free, process simple for Thais, not simple for expats as we well know. 

Some good news is I got a local insurance Thai company price for basic cover to be allowed back 25000 Bhat for one year so thinking about doing it after Xmas if flights look OK