NorthernRyland

People that think Thailand is getting expensive are not really living in Thailand as such. Eating imported foods Thai people don't eat, shopping in specialty stores, living in areas where Thai people are rarely seen and the list goes on.

then why are you on a forum reading and responding to totally pointless posts? Go watch TV or a movie so you can curate how you're spending your time.

That's totally unpractical and unnecessary. It should be as easy to remove them as it was for them to come. Person who can't speak English and can't prove their identity is pretty obvious.

Exactly. For Americans they've bought this is wrong and then when others come they seize the opportunity to take as much as they can for themselves and their families. It's well documented when an Indian manager comes in they fire all the other people and re-hire other Indians. In fact right now the mayor of Chicago is being accused of race based hiring. It's all groups except white people that do this.

Americans don't understand ethnic nepotism. They're going to get wrecked until they can get their heads around this and do something about it.

If anyone can cross the border illegally then have their deportation blocked by some judge then that's the end of country. American voters have no recourse either. Vote all you want but the final say of whether you get invaded or comes down a single judge.

I'm sure that would go over well. I'm entirely sure they do not care or are helpless to solve it and would be none too pleased having some pesky foreigner show up in their public meetings and complain. In fact last year I actually had a talk with Thai guy about a public meeting for the district and I told him my complaints about road safety. He actually told me so much, yeah they don't talk about that kind of thing. It would be interesting to go and see what kinds of things are on their agenda. Probably how to spend the tax money is my guess. Point of the post is too highlight how this can get you killed and have video examples even of when it goes wrong. Just sharing is all.

I posted a video and followed it up with even more videos later. What's more to explain? All I'm saying is it's bad and can get you killed, even if you're careful at all times.

CleanShot 2025-05-21 at 10.16.43.mp4 Indeed, this is the essence of the "pass and push" move they love so much. Why wait in traffic when you can pass all the drives in the other lane and push the other people off the road maybe killing them (like in the clip above). These are nice people, land of smiles etc... but they need help with manors on the road.

It's the driving equivalent of being pushed out of the way. Reminds me of this classic Simpsons scene too. 😂

That one road really is too dangerous. I try to avoid it as well as cycling less anywhere in the city now. I survived for 20 years already but still that one particular bend really makes me nervous.

This is a bicycle. Yeah there are other roads with basically no traffic but realistically you're going to be on both. Look, this road is already very remote but the drivers here are uniquely dangerous. Here's the location of that bend in the first post.

CleanShot 2025-05-21 at 09.35.33.mp4 Like this? I saw this and I know exactly where it is, road to Pai filled with minivans. Driver passes and fills the other lane, the other van is cresting a hill, swerves a little, loses control and hits the minivan in the opposite lane. @SAFETY FIRSTHere's an example of that clever driving technique where you pass and make the other vehicles move out of your way for you. yeah it works until it doesn't and then people die.

You're been in Thailand too long I guess. The idea is that you need to pay attention at all times and negotiate cars in your lane going at high speeds. If this doesn't work out for some reason then you die and it's your fault. Lovely system and it keeps the traffic going.

even my wife honks at people for doing this. It's so slow you'd think they were playing games with you.

CleanShot 2025-05-20 at 23.05.06.mp4 Found another one. Cars pull out in front of the trailer so the truck doesn't see them in time, gets hit and loses control and hits a motorbike. Very common thing to be on the lookout for.

Honestly this probably one of the most common ways to get hurt for newcomers. If you were to simply think you had right of way and drove straight in the left lane you will have a crash in no time. The speed limits (not that they're followed anyways) are often 90k even on roads with side roads. You better be prepared to swerve around cars nudging out into the road because that's guaranteed to happen. This would be such an easy thing to give people tickets for but of course that's never going to happen.

Oh the 11 is the "super highway". I had to look it up. Yeah people pulling out into that is crazy but of course it does happen. Thai's tend to move like schools of fish to weave around the cars pulling out. Probably why so many people go in the right lane even when they're driving slow because they're sick of weaving around and just want to drive straight.

No one should need to see stats to know there's a serious problem happening here. Even stats don't tell the full story. These are usually not even accidents but gross negligence, like passing around a blind turn going up a steep hill. If it was once and while it would be another matter but it's every day.

This is so common I opened a crash compilation and found one within seconds. This truck got out across the road but the other car had to swerve to avoid it and crashed head on with another car. Possible fatalities. Their idea seems to be once they get out in the road it's your duty to avoid them. CleanShot 2025-05-20 at 22.29.28.mp4

sure, but it's endemic in Thailand. The difference is Thailand makes literally zero effort to enforce driving rules. After decades of driving they still don't have even the most basic of enforcement in place and let dangerous drivers do as they please.

not so uncommon.

To head off the "go home if you don't like it people" let's do another one. You think people are driving too fast and recklessly? You should go home because that's how we do things here in Thailand! Tell that to Thai person driving that car. Maybe they should have more respect for Thai culture and stop complaining then move if they don't like it how it is. CleanShot 2025-05-20 at 21.55.27.mp4

Nice try. Tell that to the kid in the video that got hit.

Of all the terrible behavior I see on roads in Thailand I think this one is the worst. Doesn't matter how safe you are, this one is totally out of your hands. A car will pass another car and take up the other lane pushing motorbikes off to the side. As you can see in this video the motorbike gets swiped and crashes. I've seen other videos of head on collisions where cars get hit too, likely killing both parties. CleanShot 2025-05-20 at 21.26.29.mp4 The things I see are unbelievable. I wish I had a camera on my bike so I could record some of these incidents. For example this blind curve goes up to 14% grade just around the corner there. I've seen multiple times trucks pass me going up and occupy the entire other lane going around the turn. There's zero chance you could react in time or even stop because the road is so steep, so if by chance another car was coming it would be a head on collision. There are kids on motorbikes coming home from school and even larger trailers carrying rocks and such. Mostly it's speeding pickup trucks hauling produce from the mountains. This problem isn't even on people radars. This is such an obvious way to get people killed, even children, yet no one seems to care. The question for me is, why these otherwise decent people have no concern for safety and just accept their fates at the hands of other drivers. It might as well be murder but this doesn't seem to register with them. Lesson for us is, you use the roads at your own risk. No one is coming to save you and if you die it would have been preventable but no one will care. It's bleak but the hard truth of sharing the roads with Thai people.