DrJack54

I also have a FD account For each extension I do the deposit which also is an update . At same time get the bank letter. Easy at CW as banks are on lower level.. Think you made a typo. The minimum deposit for most banks FD a/c is 1000baht..

Your posts are just a jumble. Maybe language based. Here is what happened to you... You entered Thailand with tourist visa. That gave you a 60 day permit stamp. With at least 15 days remaining on that permit (21 days at some offices) ..you obtained a non O retirement. That would have included doing a TM86. You would have needed to have 800k in your Thai bank account on day of application. That gives you a 90 day permission of stay. In the last 30 days of that permit with the money having been maintained in account for minimum 2 months you would apply for subsequent 12 month extension. You also stated in your first post this... "You "may" have luck getting the 90 day extension and then using that to open the bank account depending on the bank policy" This is another example of your confusion. You didn't "getting a 90 day extension" You obtained a non O retirement and that gave you a 90 day permit. The point is you require a Thai bank account in your name only to apply for non O in Thailand.

Many of your points are half right but in the main incorrect. Example the quoted text above. You do not take your current visa to immigration and obtain a 90 day extension. Having entered on either visa exempt or tourist visa you can attend immigration and obtain conversion to a non O retirement. You need a Thai bank account in your name only to obtain the non O using TM87 form for conversion from visa exempt entry or TM86 for entry with tourist visa for conversion. You require 800k in bank on day of application.

I'm actually going to do this for next extension November. I currently use money in bank method. I leave 800k all yr round in dedicated bank account) So in November (newt extension) I will continue with the 800k in bank for Nov 2023 right through to my next extension Nov 2024. I have just started 65k+ per month and will do that every month to Nov 2024.. At that point I can show CW immigration over 12+ monthly transfers. Also as back up I have the money in bank method covered. Oz pp so no income letter form embassy available. Not relevant but my reason is that I want seamless access of money in bank to my lovely partner without wills etc. EDIT: reading back over my post this is related to the OP as imo he cannot do the sort of plan I have outlined because he is using an agent. That will be clear to immigration. BTW OP, where were your stamps issued

For your first extension were you able to show 12 month of transfers?

Not me. I'm hung up on you derailing threads. From the OP earlier when he eventually understood the replies.. "Thanks for all the help ????". Subsequently myself and others pointed out helpful advice such as his extension would be obtained at CW and not LakSi. LakSi being a location where he previously obtain extension from a visa exempt entry. Please point to ONE of your posts that assist the OP. T

Good suggestion. Love the joint and quick travel to district 1 from airport. Even for folk that need a visa not big deal. Recently did a 30 day eVisa $25usd for Vietnam Very simple application and 5 day processing.

Visa exempt entries via land are limited to 2 per calendar year. Visa exempt entries via air are unlimited

Yes for this entry you extend at CW

Yes. You are actually extending the permission of stay (60 days) stamped into your pp when you entered. The actual SETV is gone (used) when you entered Thailand. Since you entered with visa if you are obtaining the extension in Bangkok you attend CW. Visa exempt entries obtain extension at LakSi immigration office..

You can extend your permission of stay by 30 days. No problem. Thinking your confused with land border visa exempt entries. That is limited to 2 per calendar year.

He has an under consideration period. His stamp will be issued when he returns on indicated date.

Spot on!

OP....your friend did not change from non O-A to non O. He was using extension from a non O-A based on retirement to extensions from a non O-A based on marriage. He can always change what the extension is based on. He can change back to extension based on retirement however that has a health insurance requirement. He can only switch to non O by exiting Thailand to kill off non O-A Then reenter visa exempt and obtain a non O at his immigration office. Subsequent extension based on retirement does not require insurance.

It's not clear (to me) what the OP has done regarding the transfers. At times refers to transfers in the future. Oct 23 to Oct 24. Or does he mean that he has been doing 65k transfers from Oct 22. I'm interested in this as I also wish to change at some point to income method after many years using money in bank method. There is a thread here https://aseannow.com/topic/1250244-retirement-visa-non-o-switch-to-monthly-income-when-renewing/ Read it few times and still not clear. Has posts from ubonjoe who usually makes things very clear. The issue for the OP is that yes his non O is a genuine stamp however his bank book will show he has not been compliant.

For once I disagree. The OP has used agent previously. IMO he needs to exit Thailand and apply for new Non O based on retirement. Either outside of Thailand or use conversion from visa exempt. Will require money in bank method for first extension.

So excellent..you are familiar with options. Why ask. Just to reaffirm. You do not have option for "pick up'" Do it next day. Again silly thread.

Silly thread. You want to visit Luang Krabang . Flights from Bangkok simple. Do your sightseeing and then travel to Vientiane for your visa. Cross bridge and minivan to UT airport.

Transfers from WISE is not your issue. Use the last option for WISE "reason for transfer" think it's long term living expenses. Even if not tagged FTT. Your bank can provide internal transfer from o/s . Not a big deal. So you are asking about extension for application in Oct 2024 where you can show previous 12 months monthly transfers. That will work. The one tainted thing is your bank book. It does not show compliance previously. I suggest new non O application showing 12 month transfers with 12 month statement. Use of agents to avoid financials is a one way street.

No. You don't understand that when dealing with immigration directly without agent for your next extension it is clear that you used an agent. The financials are checked retrospectively. Meaning they look at you bank statements for previous 12 months. Also without embassy letter unless you have already done 12 months of transfers then that is not an option . How many transfers of 65k per month have you done since current extension application. My guess is Zero,?

Flight to Vientiane not cheap. You can fly to Udon Thani and minibus to Nong Khai. From there you have short...ish trip to Vientiane. Udon airport is not long drive to friendship bridge. Straight level road.

Simple question.. Did you have 800k two months prior and 3 months after last extension and not below 400k in other months in your Thai bank account. YOUR money. I'm guessing NO. If that's the case you need to obtain a new Non O retirement. You cannot just leave using an agent and do extension yourself. Do you currently have 800k in your bank account. Yes or No. Simple question.

Exactly. The OP has been using agents. That almost certainly means zero funds in the bank. He cannot do a 12 month extension without using an agent. He needs to exit Thailand and obtain new non O either outside of Thailand or using conversion to obtain non O in Thailand from visa exempt or tourist visa. He stated that his embassy does not provide income letter. So he needs to obtain new non O retirement and use money in bank method for first non O application and subsequent extension.

First up you require an appointment at Vientiane. If approved it's done overnight. Second application does not come into it. You state FLY ...assume you mean fly to Udon Thani?

Seems the OP is on extension using an agent. To switch to doing it himself he would need to have started 12 month transfers 12 months ago. As you are aware immigration check financials retrospectively. IMO he needs to exit Thailand and start over. Obtain new non O either at nearby consulate or by visa exempt entry and do a conversion to non O retirement using TM87. He will need to use money in bank method as his embassy does not provide income letter.