SunnyinBangrak

Unfortunately the irrational and highly political response to this dreadful crime will lead to even more division and will make the chance of another repeat event more likely. The correct response would be for all Americans to come together and condemn the shooters actions. Perhaps some way to support mental health charities? The response to the recent Waukesha car massacre was much more appropriate, everybody agreed it was a terrible event and made efforts to get on with life as quickly as possible and not fan the flames with divisive political moves. In my opinion America has a culture problem, not a gun problem. And it is getting worse.

It tells me that your claim "Musk specifically waived his rights to due diligence" is unable to be supported by evidence beyond vague assertions by a politically charged media. Of course if you can show me where Musk signed some contract doing exactly what you claim I will apologize and accept having been wrong. What we see happening time and time again is one media outlet reporting something, and then all the others report the same thing without checking whether it is factually correct. Certainly true that the stock market crash, and TSLA's falling share price makes it much harder for Musk to complete the deal at $44bn. And also worth noting Tesla shareholders are not happy with the current situation. Would not be surprising if he gets booted off the BOD at the next AGM. Nobody said saving free speech would be easy.

Can't help but wonder if any other political figure, from any party, was obsessively investigated by all justice departments for six years, would come out looking squeaky clean as Trump has? To find no skeletons in the closet after such harassment by prosecutors must be so embarrassing. I'm guessing when it's Biden's turn for the same treatment he will not fare so well.

"Musk specifically waived his rights to due diligence." Really? He signed a contract with those specific words? I think it quite reasonable that Musk took the publicly released Twitter financial statements at face value and made his offer with the clear understanding that bots and fake accounts made up less than 5% of the daily users. It is illegal for Twitter to lie in these financial statements. Agrawal's public refusal to back up his less than 5% claim sets alarm bells ringing for sure. I suspect if it turns out bots do indeed make up 25% of the daily users not the 5% as claimed - or a similar figure, that it will be seen as a material number, and thus no requirement for Musk to complete his buyout. And then the fraud trials begin for the Twitter board. I suspect Musk and Agrawal will agree on a lower price. Agrawal is between a rock and a hard place. He knows if the deal falls through he will be sued himself for failing his fiduciary responsibity to shareholders to act in the shareholders best interest - which is financial success and a rising shareprice. Investors did not invest in Twitter to propagate a woke narrative at the cost of profit, which is what Senior lead client partner Alex Martinez said on video last week(the 2nd such sting to bear fruit by journalists at Project Veritas) "Washington: In another undercover recording released by American far-right activist group Project Veritas, a Twitter employee has revealed that the company isn't profitable because of their woke ideology and company puts the "correct" views in front of people and mocks Elon Musk's development disorder." https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/in-secret-recording-twitter-exec-alex-martinez-blames-ideology-for-not-making-profit-2985768 I certainly would not want to be in Agrawal's shoes now. And too see Musk taking victory laps by posting a poop icon after Agrawal's lame explanation for why he can't prove the % of bots, and trolling Ocasio-Cortez over whether her followers are real, which she declined to prove, must be very painful for Agrawal and the board. This has certainly been an entertaining story, and surely there will be more surprises to come.

It does not feel good being falsely told for 6 years that this was a conspiracy theory. Now let's Lock Her Up!

The end result here will be more expensive energy, and more expensive everything. Once the poor spend the 650 pound checks on lager and smokes they will suffer. Like the Americans with their "stimmy" checks, nobody is laughing now that gas has way more than doubled and stuff like baby food is harder to find that a fist sized gold nugget. No reason for energy companies to remain listed on the London Stock Exchange after the UK govt behaved like I would expect the CCP or some Marxist regime to behave. 65% tax on profits after already forcing all this investment in green mumbojumbo is going too far.

Exactly why everything was so stable when he was in power. Pure alpha male, the others are totally cowed by him. Nobody dares to mess. Watching this I'm reminded of a pack of dogs when the alpha approaches, it's the same behaviour. How far we have fallen in less than 2 years, and boy is the world paying a price for feeble weakness.

Exactly. That is the only reason for this windfall tax. Johnson and co know full well that by punishing energy companies the price hikes will be passed straight to the consumer. Total disaster in terms of managing inflation and energy prices, but a wonderful diversion of the party gate embarrassment.

"The vote came a day after North Korea fired three missiles, including one thought to be its largest intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), following U.S. President Joe Biden’s trip to Asia. It was the latest in a string of ballistic missile launches this year, which are banned by the Security Council." Just what on earth is going on all around the world? It's gone from the most peaceful and prosperous times I can remember to a state of pure chaos. The US had quite decent relations with North Korea just a couple of years ago. It was a wonderful historic moment when the leaders met together and walked across the border into NK. An amazing achievement. The US and NK leaders had mutual respect and the ability to work together to maintain peace. Now NK are back to firing intercontinental ballistic missiles. This is a HUGE failure of the current US administration. A US power vacuum is an incredibly dangerous thing. I have high hopes that with Musk's purchase of the digital town square and allowing free discussion(within limits of the law) that people will start to be better informed and make more educated decisions at the polling booth. It is all I can hope for, otherwise we are in deep trouble as a species. China and Russia are correct here. Negotiations must take place, not just sanctions thrown around. As we see time and again, sanctions have no real effect other than to sour relations further. The Russians and Chinese will have to do the adults talking with NK at least until the US has competent leadership again. Good luck to them.

not a "more appropriate method" as you say. Snopes chief concern was "A more important oversight, again according to snopes, was the report's use of average deaths per capita instead of a more stable metric. " So they take exception to the raw data presented and want only to use medians not averages. I can see the merits of both methods, neither right or wrong. At any rate as we see from the data, France and other countries also have a mass shooting problem. France also has extremely tight gun laws which scuttles the argument that by banning guns you will end these terrible events.

Particularly ironic given that France seems to have a worse mass shooting problem per capita than the USA. Glass houses and stones come to mind. Mass Shootings by Country 2022.html https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country

This is very unfair. A more sensible approach would be to lessen tax on oil and gas, not act with impunity and punish energy companies. It was only a year or 2 ago when they were making huge losses yet carried on serving the public. This 25% extra tax will never be dropped, govts are like drug addicts in that respect. I would suggest Shell, BP and other large energy companies delist from the LSE and move to jurisdictions which still have due process and the rule of law. Boris once again does the wrong thing by trashing the UK's reputation as a good and fair place to conduct business.

"The Milwaukee Public Schools canceled its contract with the city police department in June 2020, but the policy change has not stopped staff from summoning officers to schools. In the first two months of the current school year, administrators at Milwaukee high schools called police more than 200 times, ABC affiliate station WISN reported. Some city leaders have suggested the district reconsider and bring officers back to patrol campuses." https://publicintegrity.org/education/criminalizing-kids/milwaukee-school-district-defunded-police-but-it-keeps-calling-them-back-in/ I do not think anybody supporting the party that went all-in on defunding the police is in a position to lecture anybody on school shootings, or any other violent crime for that matter.

I question whether Soros is a force for good because as well warned his woke DAs and the soft on crime agenda he funds led to a large increase in violent crime. IMO all violent crime, whether it happens in an elementary school or in a deprived inner city area is bad. And the fact he is Jewish never entered my mind for a second, it is beyond irrelevant. "Critics say the policies of Soros-funded DAs, which have included abolishing bail and, in the case of Chicago, placing hundreds of violent criminals on electronic tracking systems, have led to a spike in crime throughout the country. According to the FBI’s annual Uniform Crime Report released in September, the country saw a 30 percent increase in homicides in 2020 — the largest single-year spike since they began recording crime statistics 60 years ago. The report also saw a 24 percent decrease in arrests across the country. " https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/how-george-soros-funded-progressive-das-behind-us-crime-surge/ That we reached a stage where one side of the political divide openly talks about the end of the world without any hint they favour negotiations with Russia/Ukraine (which absolutely should have been done before the 1st tank rolled) is somewhat alarming. I remember when they were anti-war, is Country Joe still alive? Maybe he could rerelease his hit and remind us that war is bad.

I just can't understand why he is not forced to resign. Every single pro lockdown politician that contributed to the Covid lockdowns, which tore society apart, and broke their own rules must resign. Very simple. Johnson, Starmer, Rayner, Sturgeon, all of them. Not just in the UK. Across the pond Pelosi famously visited a hair salon against her own rules, and even had a party where she was mask less. Cortez too, prancing around maskless in Florida. When these politicians break their own rules it totally undermines trust in government, the pandemic rules and their own parties credibility. It makes people question whether the pandemic was as serious as we were told. If they were held to account for their own actions I wonder if we would not have had lockdowns in the first place?

No I do not. But I do have Yahoo, the 6 month chart shows a collapsing share price only jumping when Musk announced his bid. Bearing in mind the terrible downturn in tech stocks valuations since the bid was announced, Twitter staff admitting Twitter is run for ideological purposes not for profit(against the boards fiduciary resonsibility btw), and bearing in mind that the share price has come off a high of over $50 to the current mid $30s my observation is valid. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TWTR?p=TWTR&.tsrc=fin-srch edit to add proof Twitter is not being run for profit as I assert above "Murugesan said the company's operating procedures were extremely lax. 'Essentially like everyone gets to do whatever they want, no one really cares about like [operating expenses], like capitalists, they care about numbers or care about how to make the business more efficient,' he said. 'But in Twitter, it's like mental health is everything, like if you are not feeling it, you can take a few days off. People have taken months off, they will come back. 'But you always like, like do your best at any time. And that's the culture and you know we'll run the business as much as possible. But at the same time, you know, like the profits weren't a lot.'" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10823295/Twitter-does-not-believe-free-speech-Twitter-engineer-recorded-saying-censor-right.html

Predicament? The $44 billion takeover ($54.20 a share) if cancelled and Musk is somehow forced to pay $1 billion as a fine would cost Musk $1 billion. Yet the Twitter share price has and will continue to tank if Musk pulls out. Now at $37 a share Musk would make a massive saving if he made a new takeover bid. Hardly a predicament, looks like a sensible way to save his money.

I suggest you go back and read the thread from the beginning. You will find a load of rants about Trump(WHY?????) you will find salacious smears accusing Musk of having drink and drugs issues and also mental health issues(that appalling claim was posted by yourself), and a whole series of insulting posts calling Musk stupid and other baseless negative claims. Clearly emotional responses which also reflect the response at Twitter to the takeover news. "Monday was an emotional day at Twitter — even for its executives. Shortly after billionaire Elon Musk bought the powerful social media platform, top Twitter lawyer Vijaya Gadde called a virtual meeting with the policy and legal teams she oversees to discuss what the new ownership could mean for them." Gadde cried during the meeting as she expressed concerns about how the company could change, according to three people familiar with the meeting. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/26/twitters-top-lawyer-reassures-staff-cries-during-meeting-about-musk-takeover-00027931 And this very insulting response by another high ranking Twitter worker - I thought these guys were supposed to be supportive of mental health problems? Seems not when it's Elon Musk buying Twitter. “He has Asperger’s, so he’s special — you’re special needs. You’re literally special needs,” the honcho, identified by Project Veritas as lead client partner Alex Martinez, says in a video that the outlet released Tuesday. “So I can’t even take what you’re saying seriously,” Martinez added as he moaned about the Tesla CEO’s mission to restore free speech to the social media giant. https://nypost.com/2022/05/18/twitter-exec-recorded-mocking-elon-musk-for-aspergers/

I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect the crucial point is whether Twitter "knowingly" lied about the number of fake users/bots. IF, it can be proven(and Musk's legal team already demanded the internal emails and messages be preserved) that they did this for the purposes of gaining more revenue from advertizers and thus a higher stock price then it will be clear evidence of fraud and Musk will not be compelled to go through the purchase at the inflated price. Agrawals refusal to guarantee the number of bots when directly challenged in a convoluted serial of Tweets which led Musk to post his infamous poop tweet in response does tend to suggest funny business has been happening at Twitter. "Tesla CEO says execs KNOW they have more bots than they are admitting to" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10835231/Twitter-bosses-tell-staff-Musk-takeover-moving-ahead-claimed-app-filled-fake-users.html

The misinformation and false allegations running wild here. Seems Musk has one side of the divide in panic mode. I wonder why. I consider Musk a far more intelligent and cunning player than Agrawal and co, let's not call Musk a loser yet - I still think he has this all mapped out and will triumph here. And as for the claim he is not paying tax, yep, turns out he probably paid more than anybody else IN HISTORY. "Elon Musk May Well Have The Biggest Tax Bill This Year: Over $8 Billion. On Tuesday evening, Elon Musk made a bold claim on Twitter: That he would pay more taxes than any American in history this year. Musk might be right. The eccentric billionaire (and the world’s richest person) likely owes the federal government at least $8.3 billion for 2021, Forbes estimates, based on his stock sales of nearly $13 billion through December 13. " https://www.forbes.com/sites/elizahaverstock/2021/12/15/elon-musk-is-likely-paying-more-than-8-billion-in-taxes-this-year/?sh=33bddc204db3

This is just not true. IF, Twitters accounts were factual and accurate then yes he would be obliged to complete the deal at the previously agreed price. Yet it has come to light that Twitters own claim that real users account for 95% + of users is just not true. This figure has been used to determine advertisers fees(where Twitters revenue comes from) and by investors to value the company. Massively overstating the number of users for financial gain is fraudulent. I am surprised Twitter stock has not been suspended while a thorough investigation takes place into Twitters 95% + claim. "Nearly half of President Joe Biden's 22.3 million Twitter followers are fake, a new analysis revealed on Wednesday." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10829675/Almost-half-President-Bidens-Twitter-followers-FAKE-audit-reveals.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

Other than his having smoked a joint on the JRE, do you have any hard evidence to prove your claim that Musk is suffering from drug addictions which could be leading him to a life of isolated madness? His frequent public appearances and razor sharp mental faculty suggests otherwise.

who has "debunked" the bias claim as you state? According to top Twitter exec it is very real. "A senior Twitter engineer has been secretly recorded admitting that the social media giant is “censoring the right” — and that he and his co-workers are “Commie as f...” https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/twitter-engineer-says-commie-staff-censors-the-right/

Well it was fun while it lasted. I think Musk did a great thing once and for all exposing the bias in big tech, so it was not a waste of time and effort. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10812903/Elon-Musk-announces-Twitter-deal-temporarily-hold.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

No need to lock Mr.Gates down. During a recent interview with Fareed Zakaria he said " you know, we didn't understand that it’s a fairly low fatality rate and that it’s a disease mainly of the elderly, kind of like the flu, although a bit different than that." I only wish we had some way of knowing this 2 years ago.