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Reading comprehension ... I was referring to HPV vaccine I don't need a shingles vaccine, as already had, and very rare to have a 2nd outbreak. Quality vaccine wasn't available then, not that I would get any vaccine for shingles, and any new offerings big pharma are pushing now. Never regretted not getting a vaccine, but there are 10s of 1000's that have regretted getting a vaccine. VAERS is few of unhappy customers, well, those that didn't die from a vaccine.

Yep ... another 'user error' oops with an EV. Coming up on 3 years of owning our DECO SUSU model, and still lovin' it. If in the market for a new MC, and top end speed or range isn't a necessity, strongly recommend taking a peek at DECO line up, as qualify for govt incentive program @ 18k baht off.

This thread is obviously not about TH only. Just ICE vs EV. I left it open, as surely most posts would be off topic if it was only about TH. If you trolls can't keep it to 'TH' for a thread that is about 'TH' (EV in TH), then what would be the point of restricted this thread to TH. Carry on ....

Actually I use ฿8 / kWh, and probably the highest charge at a CS. Don't think we've ever paid that yet. Surely rates will go up, but now I think we pay ฿5.5-6.5-7.5 /kWh. Certainly not going to fret over half or one baht, or even search out a PEA/Bangchak on the weekend, just to save ฿2. I've never Q'd at a CS, and we're O&A a lot. As stated, I use petrol numbers I know, for car I owned. PEA starts at ฿5.5, off peak hours, discounted, same as if owning a TOU meter (though not as cheap), nights & weekends (when many people travel) And we only use fast charging cables. I like the car to be done, before we are when we stop. Some malls charge ฿60 per hour, but that is 22kWh, so slow, but, that's a pretty cheap rate, if you load up 20kWh in that hour. And you're at the mall anyway, which many are on a weekly basis, for an hour or 2, so the 'I can't charge at home' isn't really a good reason not own an EV, unless rural, in which case, you probably can charge at home. Ignorance is Bliss .... Be Happy When you actually know what you're talking about, feel free to jump back in the conversation.

Bond, Elliot Bond 😎

My #s are for vehicles I owned/own, as I can believe them. YMMV If you're getting 20kpl, then it would cost you ~฿680 vs ฿370 to got 360 kms in that small un-comfy, under performing ICEV. Long distance in the Vios & Mazda 2 was almost tolerable, I couldn't do it in a Celerio, or anything smaller than a SUV (B class). I'll leave it at that, as not to offend.

Also balance that hour of extra charging, if there actually is, against all the weekly or monthly petrol stops, that add up to well over any stops while O&A, that most take just a few times a year.. 10 mins times 12 (month) or 24 (2X a month) or 52 times (if weekly) of topping up your petrol car, vs 30 seconds to pug in/out at home. Posted this earlier, but here's the short version ... "we don't stop to charge, simply charge when we stop"

Apparently they are, since everyone is Q'ing up for it, before offer expires. A few 'user errors', wrong charger. I'm too impatient to wait to charge. Even when O&A, when we get to the <100 kms range left, the wife will look for next charging stations within 50 kms, and If full, we'll just continue to the next. To me, makes not sense to Q up when there are so many CS. Much faster to top back up to 90+%, or even 80-85% 2X, than wait for an open slot, or to top up to 100%. That last 5% takes too long for me, unless I'm still eating or searching for a hotel. We don't plan much, as change too often in route. We're going stop anyway along the way, if on the road for 2-3+ hrs, so simply take the option that's are open and no waiting. PTTs (EV Station Pluz) have everything MG has everything (free coffee, water, snacks) PEA / BangChak has toilets / everything Elexa may be at a coffee shop, market or PT station Options abound We really don't stop 'to charge', and simply charge while we are stopped when O&A. Somehow that doesn't sink in with the anti EV'ers. Charging adds very little, if any extra time to our journeys, except the actual plugging in/out 🙄 If y'all like driving 3-6-9-12hr at a stretch, good luck with that. Feel sorry for you passengers, 'pass the bottle, have to P'. I'm not in hurry, at least one of us (3) will need to P. I need to stretch my legs, get a coffee and or snack. At my age, sitting too long isn't good, so I try avoid DVT, same as if on a plane for hours. As always, YMMV & UP2U

Same one I already posted a link to, when asked: https://aseannow.com/topic/1334835-the-tim-walz-thread/page/24/#comment-19133135 Have a nice day

Season 4, that's just sad, and didn't make it through E1 Read the synopsis of S3, but thought I'd give S4 a shot anyway. Pre snip of S3 didn't help. Then Pages new male ish voice, and all the other embarrassing situation of the others, and just wondering, how can it go from quite good, to WTF

My first meal is just before noon, and just before the dog takes me for my walk. Wake up ~0600, and coffee is about all I'm going to do. Then troll AN Stick to my overnight fast, ~2100-1100 fairly well. Makes a big difference in weight control, and quite easy, since asleep half the time.

Being produced by a subsidiary of PTT, the state owned oil company...nuff said So doubt if they be going anywhere anytime soon. They'll also have a battery factory here, if not already.

fire stats been done to death ... ... ICEV lose big time in that competition Why do you persist ...

My initial contact with our installer, was for a 6.3kw hybrid inverter, no batteries, and about 150k. At the time, I asked for different prices for different sizes, and it worked it's way up to 200k to 200k+, then with ESSs 5-10-20kWh, and we were into 400+k and I said ... ... 'do ding dong people actually spend this kind of money for solar' ... 'yea, some do, others just use the grid as battery at night & roll back their meters' ... and the rest is history ...

and IN India, not so much, as less than 2019

I think I liked it better when I ignored your postings ... Think BYD will take that crown this year

Use to hit a coffer at least once a week ... ... but now ...

I don't think Nissan, Subaru or Suzuki will be around too much longer Scaled way back to markets in JP and USA maybe.

I'm a hold them till it dies, or has little value, kind of vehicle owner. Like to get my money's worth out of them. In days past, USA, they died, or I killed them. Didn't sell many cars of mine, and owned more than a few. All bought 2nd with 1 exception. Here/TH, all bought new, I sell them, when I lose trust in them, and by that time, 5-7 yrs, they're only worth pocket change. Referring to my 2 Vios & 1 Mazda 2. Actually gave the M2 to the daughter, and she just sold it for 70k, and was happy to get that. Less than 200k kms on it. What a POS.

With our high priced install, with the EVs, and if still driving as we do, 22.5k kms a year, I expect ROI in <10 yrs. If all local driving, and continued abuse of AC at house, then that could easily be 4-6 yrs. Our system (8kW inverter w/20kWh of ESS) is more than enough for the 2 of us, and the 2nd ESS (10kWh), was only added for getting longevity out of them, as they now rarely go below 60%. So 1 cycle every 3 days or so. They'll outlast me, if no oops, and possibly the wife. We also have 46.3 kWh of battery in the EV, if ever needed. I consider both to be 2 of the best investments I ever made. Depreciating products that will pay for themselves + ... for years to come.

Nothing theoretical, as they actually test those kind of things. Theoretical would be those thinking, you may even get 10k cycles out of them. As I said, 2500 is considered conservative by many. Has nothing to do with NETA or MG, it's the battery tech that CATL (13 yrs) & BYD (29 yrs) have perfected and continue to improve over the last couple decades. Instead of pushing dinosaur technology for added profits. source

Since you don't drive yours very much, I guess 20 yrs is easy. Expect battery life (conservative) of LFP chemistry. As noted at the bottom, for our MG ZS. Now put in you #s for kms per year and do the math.

Now who's cherry pickin' ... that's an issue for your govt and big oil's collusion & corruption. Not my problem 😎

Not my definition. For me, IMHO, BEV is an EV. Just pointed out eow's hypocrisy, of singling CH out, for listing hybrids as EV, and not the rest of the world. I don't get the practicality (redundancy) of HEV or PHEV myself, unless living where CS aren't available, or BEV is not practical for ones lifestyle. Oh yea ... they're not for everyone 🙄

The have electric motors, and separate batteries to operate them. Sounds like electric vehicle to me.