I have no intention of causing an argument. But, instead of quoting from handouts and info gained from other sources, try visiting a TRD office and asking for their take on this highly contentious subject. When I visited earlier this month I was greeted with complete surprise and asked why I wanted a TIN number. This from the head lady of the office. She said I was the first person in the province to request this, and having looked at the papers of my income I offered, insisted there was no need. Was I about to argue? It was a case of khorp Khun Khap, a quick wai and I hightailed it out of there.