webfact Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 "Likay" mum seeks justice for son assaulted by English teacher Picture: Daily News SUPHANBURI: -- A well known mother who is a Likay performer took her ten year old son to the police yesterday after she said he was hit by an English teacher at school. Matsaya Ratanakun, 31, who tours all over Thailand with the Thiwaporn Ngamwilai troupe of performers, said that her son First was usually left in the care of her parents. She came back on Friday and her son said he had been hit on the buttocks by a teacher called Charnchai because he had not handed in his homework. Next day when the bruises showed she decided to post the pictures of her son's behind on Facebook. A Thai language teacher messaged her to ask her to take the pictures down as the teacher concerned was denying he did it. This enraged the mother further so she decided to go to police. Police took their own pictures of the boy's rear before sending him to hospital for a check. They have contacted the director of the school in Pho Phraya sub-district of Suphanburi and will be interviewing the teacher involved to get to the bottom of the matter. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-09-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 They seriously need to make striking a child a felony offense. This happens far too often, many times going unreported, and that needs to stop. My adopted son is a school teacher, and when I talked to him about this in the past, he said that any teacher who hits a child should be stripped of their teaching credentials and go to prison for no less than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, webfact said: Police took their own pictures of the boy's rear before sending him to hospital for a check And now, for some bizarre reason, the same pictures are there for everyone to see. Could have just told us about it. Really didn't need the pics. We believe you. As for the teacher who hit the kid, it's not okay to hit adults but apparently it seems acceptable to hit kids. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Nothing serious - like actual charges of assault or child abuse - will happen. The Thai police simply don't charge teachers when they physically assault and abuse young child in their 'care'. Just part of the backward, medieval culture Thais stick to with all their might and ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 What ever happened to those old school punishment like flying feather duster, ruler knuckle tap, stand in the corner or outside and the rubber band snap. No reason enough to out your hands to any part of the student anatomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Just dreadful, if you can't educate without using battery to make even the simplest of points, then you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a classroom. As the only thing Thais truly fear is a large monetary sanction, the only solution is striking teachers off and removing all monetary perks if they use violence against students Edited September 4, 2017 by z42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Ass-ault, time for the government to step in and warn every principal and every teacher, that ass-ault on any student will be met with immediate dismissal and criminal charges filed, and if the principal knew of it and failed to take the necessary required action, i.e. dismiss the teacher and report the matter to the police and appropriate government department, they should also be dismissed, no cover ups, nuff said ! Edited September 4, 2017 by 4MyEgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkenny Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 They have contacted the director of the school in Pho Phraya sub-district of Suphanburi and will be interviewing the teacher involved to get to the bottom of the matter. Seems the police do have a sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildewillie89 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 The problem is if they go hard on the teachers, then not many teachers would be left in the country. Of course, going hard is what we think is the right thing to do, but it would result in schools being closed. Probably needs to be a complete shift in culture/education - and then if teachers go against that then termination should occur. So rather than the schools taking the teachers for useless 3 or 4 day 'study' trips to the beach costing millions of baht, just have a educational seminar regarding this issue. Obviously must incorporate the police, as in Thai, public servants are all on the same level. So a police member is seen as almost like a colleague to a teacher. The other problem is the older generation controlling the culture of the schools. A young teacher fresh out of university started at my workplace not long ago. You could tell she was a hardworking individual who would not lay a hand on any students. However, seeing as every single other teacher does hit the kids, then it didn't take long for her almost to be forced into doing it herself. Almost like she would be looked down on if she didn't. Not many Thai have the strong will to stand up for things, especially if they are not officials yet as their job is generally not guaranteed. Sadly, it is also entrenched in the students minds. If a student misbehaves the rest of the class will tell you to hit them. Better just to take away part of their lunch time. Hitting is 5 seconds of pain, a lunch time is an hour of listening to all your friends have fun. But that would require some sort of effort on the teacher's part. We can all dream. I would suggest having a battle plan in place and a talk to the director if your kids are about to start school though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essecola Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Nothing will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, rkidlad said: And now, for some bizarre reason, the same pictures are there for everyone to see. Could have just told us about it. Really didn't need the pics. We believe you. As for the teacher who hit the kid, it's not okay to hit adults but apparently it seems acceptable to hit kids. Go figure. The pictures are necessary. I kid you not, but past threads on similar events have been dismissed outright by multiple members with excuses such as; - Spare the rod, spoil the child formats; - It probably was nothing - Thai kids deserve beatings. Some people need to see the results of child abuse to get it through their ignorant skulls that inflicting a beating on child is wrong and leaves lasting physical and emotional wounds. This teacher needs to be found and charged with physical assault upon a child and sent to prison if convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Nothing will happen. It seems normal for teachers, parents, family to physically abuse their kids here. Children are lower down in the social ranking than even a filthy street dog by the look of it... because if someone kicks a vicious dog that is trying to bit them, then that is serious cruelty and the person will be named, shamed and punished, but if someone hits, injures a child in their care NOTHING happens.... all to do with loosing face I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 The teacher should consider himself extremely fortunate that the father hasn't been down to the school with a few of his mates. Many of the locals seem to enjoy a six on one kicking, and while not justice per se, it might have an impact on reducing this sort of thing in the future once word gets round. The authorities certainly don't appear to be doing much to rein it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, darksidedog said: the father Probably buggered off before he was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowny77 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 To be honest the teacher should have talked with the parents about their kids behaviour and then leave it up to the parents to issue what they seemed fit as a punishment, rather than doing it themselves. There is a very thin line between corrective punishment and out right sadistic punishment. I know I was thrashed as a child when I was bad but it made me understand right and wrong. Looking today at this generation, they get away with murder and complain if they get shouted at, let alone if someone would take a belt to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante7 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 "And will be interviewing the teacher involved to get to the bottom of the matter: Sorry but I had to laugh at that, but on a serious note, smacking a child so that a mark is left is wrong, nothing wrong with a short sharp shock but not leaving bruise's. Btigante7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildewillie89 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 33 minutes ago, chowny77 said: To be honest the teacher should have talked with the parents about their kids behaviour and then leave it up to the parents to issue what they seemed fit as a punishment, rather than doing it themselves. There is a very thin line between corrective punishment and out right sadistic punishment. I know I was thrashed as a child when I was bad but it made me understand right and wrong. Looking today at this generation, they get away with murder and complain if they get shouted at, let alone if someone would take a belt to them. If physical punishment was effective, then this story wouldn't have made the news in the first place, as in theory the kid should not have misbehaved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Just1Voice said: They seriously need to make striking a child a felony offense. They would first need to create a society where something being against the law is a deterrent to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2muchcoffee Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Right, wrong, or indifferent. Corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, regardless of any law in place. It is condoned by teachers, school administrators, police, and just about every parent. Throughout the world there are a wide variety of beliefs and practices with regard to punishment of children. It is the right of each country to determine a position that is consistent with tradition and cultural values. It is not my place to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Not sure if it still happens but in some units in the British Army young new fresh officers were sometimes put in the guardroom for a day and night and treated as a normal squaddie, except for the 'Sir' at the end of every order to let them experience it. How about something similar for teachers who advocate using a cane on a child? 3 strokes on the backside so they are aware of the pain and humiliation it causes a child. A slap on the ear from your dad is a whole different ballgame if you've done something wrong or stupid because you probably deserve it and it's usually not in front of all your friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, webfact said: They have contacted the director of the school in Pho Phraya sub-district of Suphanburi and will be interviewing the teacher involved to get to the bottom of the matter. For pity's sake. Violence disguised as discipline should be taken more seriously than this. Edited September 4, 2017 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, kingkenny said: They have contacted the director of the school in Pho Phraya sub-district of Suphanburi and will be interviewing the teacher involved to get to the bottom of the matter. Seems the police do have a sense of humour. Really? Not seeing it, myself. Edited September 4, 2017 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, way2muchcoffee said: Right, wrong, or indifferent. Corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, regardless of any law in place. It is condoned by teachers, school administrators, police, and just about every parent. Throughout the world there are a wide variety of beliefs and practices with regard to punishment of children. It is the right of each country to determine a position that is consistent with tradition and cultural values. It is not my place to judge. As a teacher, it is mine and I do. Whoever is is responsible for this, has no place in a school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Let,s be a little more precise here ! The son was not assaulted by an English teacher, but by a Thai teacher of the English language :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I don't understand this forum. The teacher has denied to have beaten the boy. And it is not proved yet that she/he was the one who did it. Yet, ALL the answers from TV members are condemning the teacher and want her/him to be punished. Too many Sherlock Holmes here and to much time on their hands. Lucky if the teacher will not sue TV for Libel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 If that was my kid the teachers English would be perfect and sound like this. No don't please stop, help me someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 What about all the grief the kid is now going through, being teased by his classmates for seeing a picture of his booty in the news? That's punishment in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 16 hours ago, Eric Loh said: What ever happened to those old school punishment like flying feather duster, ruler knuckle tap, stand in the corner or outside and the rubber band snap. No reason enough to out your hands to any part of the student anatomy. when I was in school it was a good paddle on the butt, however you had to be sent to the principles office for him/her to do the paddling and then a phone call to mom or dad.. I must admit I got a few in my days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Kids and women seem to be Thai societies punching bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 16 hours ago, way2muchcoffee said: Right, wrong, or indifferent. Corporal punishment is the norm in Thai schools, regardless of any law in place. It is condoned by teachers, school administrators, police, and just about every parent. Throughout the world there are a wide variety of beliefs and practices with regard to punishment of children. It is the right of each country to determine a position that is consistent with tradition and cultural values. It is not my place to judge. So, if I was teaching English here it would be perfectly fine for me to smack your kid silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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