webfact Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 North Korea does not want war, world does not want regime change: U.N. By Tom Miles North Korean leader Kim Jong Un waves to people attending a military parade marking the 105th birth anniversary of country's founding father, Kim Il Sung in Pyongyang, April 15, 2017. REUTERS/Damir Sagolj/Files GENEVA (Reuters) - North Korea does not want to start a nuclear war and the world is not seeking to overthrow its leader Kim Jong Un, the U.N. disarmament chief said on Tuesday. Izumi Nakamitsu, U.N. High Representative for Disarmament Affairs, said there was hope for a peaceful end to the tension caused by the nuclear ambitions of North Korea, also known as Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK). "I don’t think DPRK wants to start a nuclear war," she told a news conference in Geneva. On Monday, the U.N. Security Council unanimously decided to step up sanctions on North Korea after its sixth and largest nuclear test, prompting a war of words between diplomats at the Conference on Disarmament in Geneva. Asked if the pressure on North Korea was pushing the world to the brink of nuclear war, Nakamitsu said U.N. officials were in touch with all sides and nobody - including North Korea - saw a military solution to the crisis. "That is just too catastrophic," she said. "I think we all understand the consequences of a military escalation, a 'military solution'. That's why we keep saying that it would not be a solution for anyone, including DPRK." She added: "Maybe I'm missing something but as far as I hear, no one is really asking for any collapse of DPRK, quite the contrary. No one is talking about regime change, quite the contrary." She was also hopeful that, as in the past, increased nuclear tensions might yield progress in disarmament talks. "When people say that because the international security environment is so difficult, tensions are so high, that we can’t discuss disarmament, that is historically not accurate." U.N. Secretary General Antonio Guterres has offered to play a role in mediating, as has Switzerland. So far no such steps have been taken, but the United Nations was prepared to get involved if asked to do so, Nakamitsu said. "We are definitely preparing ourselves, exploring scenarios as part of our normal contingency planning." (Reporting by Tom Miles; Editing by Janet Lawrence) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-09-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadperfect Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I think he wants a nuclear war. He is acting like a idiot and the world agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 "We are definitely preparing ourselves, exploring scenarios as part of our normal contingency planning." 11th hour risk/ disaster prevention is not contingency planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 North Korea does not want war, world does not want regime change The first part may be true because NK will be wiped off the map. The second is not true, assassination is a real possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I hope she is correct in her assessment, though I suspect the fat man will be ready to see his country annihilated before he will back down. Very difficult to see a good solution to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, darksidedog said: I hope she is correct in her assessment, though I suspect the fat man will be ready to see his country annihilated before he will back down. Very difficult to see a good solution to this. I agree with the assessment. But the world wants a denuclearized Korean peninsula. Something Kim is against. Therein lies the rub. Just read an interesting report saying this gives other rogue nations the go ahead to pursue their own nuclear strategy, as nothing will be done about it anyway. Letting North Korea go ahead sets a dangers precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, quadperfect said: I think he wants a nuclear war. He is acting like a idiot and the world agrees. Don't worry....Ivanka will talk him out of it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Kim like the rest of us just wants security, security against regime change. The world may not want regime change as the UN say, but no one does anything about it when the US decides to execute a regime change....except the Russians in Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piersbeckett Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: But the world wants a denuclearized Korean peninsula. Does that world include Russia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, retarius said: Kim like the rest of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Off-topic posts removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, webfact said: "That is just too catastrophic," she said. "I think we all understand the consequences of a military escalation, a 'military solution'. That's why we keep saying that it would not be a solution for anyone, including DPRK." an intellectual take on a megalomanic ; about the same as a debate on whether stupidity is dangerous: Pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I want DPRK regime change because I don't agree with there being a country that is a 25-million-person concentration camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, MaxYakov said: I want DPRK regime change because I don't agree with there being a country that is a 25-million-person concentration camp. We've seen how well waging war in the name of regime change has worked in recent past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, ilostmypassword said: We've seen how well waging war in the name of regime change has worked in recent past. Most attempts at regime change were done during the cold war. Russia was on the other side doing the exact same thing. So probably not good examples, and many were decades ago. Regime change is a tough one. Successful ones might be Kuwait and Panama? As Max states, NK would be a prime example of one where it's needed. How to make it successful is tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: We've seen how well waging war in the name of regime change has worked in recent past. It couldn't possibly be because the leadership of the regime-change efforts were incompetent, could it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I think this is a war of words ... if NK would be seriously attacked by the US , they would fire a few rockets , of course , but the majority of this country's population is starving and not willing to die for Kim Yong , I guess . They would just throw their weapons away and surrender or run away ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said: I think this is a war of words ... if NK would be seriously attacked by the US , they would fire a few rockets , of course , but the majority of this country's population is starving and not willing to die for Kim Yong , I guess . They would just throw their weapons away and surrender or run away ... You think the "majority" of DPRK's population is simultaneously starving and armed? I don't believe anyone is greatly concerned about the DPRK's "majority" other than how many would be tragic, collateral damage (as if they aren't already by just living under a totalitarian regime). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadperfect Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 hours ago, tonray said: Don't worry....Ivanka will talk him out of it ! Ha ha that too ,but i dont think its up to donald anymore. The wheel is in motion ,the world is ready so all it will take is kim crossing the line he is about to cross. If he does what he threatens to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, quadperfect said: I think he wants a nuclear war. He is acting like a idiot and the world agrees. I'm not so sure he wants to be involved in a nuclear war, but I do believe he is showing the rest of the world he has the capability. Think of the potential customers KJU has for both his device and delivery systems. May be an even better way to get back at the West and stay officially uninvolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yeah, but. . . Of course the world wants regime change in North Korea. To say other wise is an obvious lie - as it is to pretend that cranking up UN sanctions is not a strategy specifically aimed at achieving this objective. (Thinks: Why does anybody continue to take the UN and its parrot cage of talking heads seriously?) Trump is in a bind because the CIA looks incapable of inciting the kind of peasants revolt in the Democratic Republic which brought us the Arab Spring and an ongoing hot season of political climate change across North Africa and the Middle East. Flashing the nuclear bulge in his pants is starting to look like the only way blondie Trump can save his immense ego from deflation by his brunette North Korean altar ego. Hang on to your toupees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 35 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Yeah, but. . . Of course the world wants regime change in North Korea. To say other wise is an obvious lie - as it is to pretend that cranking up UN sanctions is not a strategy specifically aimed at achieving this objective. (Thinks: Why does anybody continue to take the UN and its parrot cage of talking heads seriously?) Trump is in a bind because the CIA looks incapable of inciting the kind of peasants revolt in the Democratic Republic which brought us the Arab Spring and an ongoing hot season of political climate change across North Africa and the Middle East. Flashing the nuclear bulge in his pants is starting to look like the only way blondie Trump can save his immense ego from deflation by his brunette North Korean altar ego. Hang on to your toupees. Few here are saying the world wants regime change except you. It's not a lie, you seem to like to go against the grain with stuff like this. LOL The CIA? Jeez....and how did we get to the Arab Spring from here? A bit off topic. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddsaed Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 no historical context, journalism gives partial truths, comments worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, toddsaed said: no historical context, journalism gives partial truths, comments worse Pretty short comment. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 hours ago, webfact said: No one is talking about regime change 4 hours ago, craigt3365 said: Most attempts at regime change were done during the cold war. Russia was on the other side doing the exact same thing. So probably not good examples, and many were decades ago. Regime change is a tough one. Successful ones might be Kuwait and Panama? As Max states, NK would be a prime example of one where it's needed. How to make it successful is tough. If somehow North Korea could become a semi-autonomous state of China, regime change might work. Neither China nor Russia will agree to a unified democratic Korean Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Srikcir said: If somehow North Korea could become a semi-autonomous state of China, regime change might work. Neither China nor Russia will agree to a unified democratic Korean Republic. And therein lies the problem with regime change. Politics get in the way of what's the right thing to do. Unite Korea. Just like Germany. IMHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 hours ago, darksidedog said: I hope she is correct in her assessment, though I suspect the fat man will be ready to see his country annihilated before he will back down. Very difficult to see a good solution to this. Which fat man? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, quadperfect said: Ha ha that too ,but i dont think its up to donald anymore. The wheel is in motion ,the world is ready so all it will take is kim crossing the line he is about to cross. If he does what he threatens to do. I honestly believe 45 is waiting for Mueller's investigation to start criminal proceedings against members of his (45) regime then 45 will start a war/declare national emergency etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, quadperfect said: Ha ha that too ,but i dont think its up to donald anymore. The wheel is in motion ,the world is ready so all it will take is kim crossing the line he is about to cross. If he does what he threatens to do. Which is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 He not want war yet. His bombs are not ready When they are he will launch because his mentally gone. Nth Korea must accept a removal plan of nuclear weapons or be wiped out. There to big a risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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