webfact Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Meechai defends appointment of daughter to NCPO-related post By The Nation Meechai Ruchuphan There is nothing unusual about one’s own daughter being appointed by the National Council for Peace and Order as a personal officer to your position on the ruling body, NCPO member Meechai Ruchuphan said on Monday. “There is no law prohibiting officers, or even politicians, from appointing their family members to positions,” he insisted. “I assure you this has no hidden benefit.” Meechai has come under fire since his daughter, Mayura Chuangchote, was appointed as his deputy secretary-general by the NCPO last Wednesday, along with other 33 officers. Following a regulation set by the NCPO themselves, Mayura will receive a monthly salary of Bt47,500, on a par with the prime minister’s deputy secretary-general. The 79-year-old lawyer has led the drafting process for the 2017 charter and several organic laws, including the law governing criminal procedures against political office holders, which is known for its harsh punishment of corrupt politicians. Meechai defended his position on Monday by arguing that he, a non-civil servant, was not authorised to ask other officers to take up the post of his deputy secretary-general, and that he needed therefore to ask his daughter to do so. The NCPO-related job also requires a high degree of trust and confidentiality that his own offspring should be best fitted to provide, he added. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30330435 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-10-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hypocrite! Usurp power from an elected government and then pack all the jobs with your friends and family. Pure Hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 .....and the English lesson for today..... nep·o·tism noun: nepotism the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 39 minutes ago, webfact said: Meechai defended his position on Monday by arguing that he, a non-civil servant, was not authorised to ask other officers to take up the post of his deputy secretary-general, and that he needed therefore to ask his daughter to do so. The NCPO-related job also requires a high degree of trust and confidentiality that his own offspring should be best fitted to provide, he added. We all (rightly) took a dim view off the Thaksinistas for this type of insidious corruption. Further proof that the current bunch are, at best, no better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, PatOngo said: .....and the English lesson for today..... nep·o·tism noun: nepotism the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs. The following lesson, "Civics" will deal with the topic of "Nepotism, and how it can be used as by the courts to oust an elected Prime Minister". Finally after break we will learn about the (Thai) "theory of relativism", and how it is applied to selecting your staff. Edited October 30, 2017 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 No difference world wide & to add insult ones own country employs non Citz & visa holders rather then their Citizens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: There is nothing unusual about one’s own daughter being appointed by the National Council for Peace and Order as a personal officer to your position The point is not if it´s unusual. This is a point of moral and etics. If it´s not unusual just means that more people are breaking the rules of etic behaviour. Actually outstanding of a person in his position to make a stupid remark like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So, another 34 "officers" appointed at B47,000 a month. Another train laden with delicious steaming gravy is ready to board on platform 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: There is no law I think that part of the article is true and makes sense. Oh how easy it is to rationalize things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I am sure there was an extensive vetting and interview procedure and that Meechai's daughter simply was the only suitable candidate for that particular well paid position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 You cannot employ family members. It doesn’t matter how ‘qualified’ they are or even how suited to the job they might be. You simply don’t employ family members to set good precedence and avoid any misunderstanding. Show you’re serious about cracking down on corruption and nepotism. It’s like sleeping with your sister - you just don’t do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 A dad helping his daughter, nothing wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, JAG said: So, another 34 "officers" appointed at B47,000 a month. Another train laden with delicious steaming gravy is ready to board on platform 2! I bet the cars and houses that are soon to follow don't reflect the 47,000 Bt per month. "My wife/husband's family are wealthy." It's like catching your kids with their hands in the biscuit tin at suppertime when you told them not to. The excuses are just as daft. Edited October 30, 2017 by Khun Han Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 There are many situations in life where the law doesn't prohibit you from doing them, but you don't do them because it's the right thing to do, even is you'r high and mighty and hold a commanding office or position, set an example to all others, so you can always hold your head up high and not have to defend yourself, it's called dignity and morality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Khun Han said: We all (rightly) took a dim view off the Thaksinistas for this type of insidious corruption. Further proof that the current bunch are, at best, no better. Thank you. I have been waiting for someone to say that for three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 48 minutes ago, rkidlad said: You cannot employ family members. It doesn’t matter how ‘qualified’ they are or even how suited to the job they might be. You simply don’t employ family members to set good precedence and avoid any misunderstanding. Show you’re serious about cracking down on corruption and nepotism. It’s like sleeping with your sister - you just don’t do it. You can't drive/ride while drunk or shoot your estranged wife/girlfriend but hey.............................guess what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Thailand said: I am sure there was an extensive vetting and interview procedure and that Meechai's daughter simply was the only suitable candidate for that particular well paid position. Yeah, off course! The apple don´t fall far from the tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Nepotism isn't a crime, its a given right to certain ruling members? How can you not agree with him, he has the most experience in writing constitutions for Thailand. How many? 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He explained she was the only one he could trust. What a damning indictment of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I don't see that the appointment of Meechai's daughter breaches any significant principle in the context of the NCPO, and thus am bewildered by the specific negativity of many forum members in this thread.Every one of the Junta appointed stooges on the NCPO lacks legitimacy and honour and disgraces the country.Why single out one probably blameless person for opprobium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Gunn Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: Hypocrite! Usurp power from an elected government and then pack all the jobs with your friends and family. Pure Hypocrisy. But Thaksin was corrupt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Junta nepotism, Shin nepotism its all bad and should be stopped. Though I am guilty of nepotism too as I employ the wife of my brother in my Dutch company. Though because its not funded by taxes I can do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 The Junta leader Pablo Prayut brother hovers around the corridors of power, is anything new, you had Thaksin's and Yingluck brother as CIC who according to some was fitting out his own private army and then there was the small matter of Thaksin's cousin promoted to CIC from rank of Major, which caused an uproar , say no more............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Wasn't that the same reason of "appointing someone that he can trust" got Yingluck dismissed as Prime Minister when she re-assigned a senior security officer of the National Security Council? The irony of this all came from the Constitution Court judge when he said that the defendant has abused her position. Not same here or it is just because Meechai is correctly aligned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Excellent! I'll go out later and have sex with Mrs baboon's sister. When Mrs baboon gets upset about it I shall simply point out that it isn't against the law to which I am sure the reply will be 'Oh yeah... Fair enough, then...' Not. Edited October 31, 2017 by baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) This is old news. Immediately after the coup many government positions changed hands. Senior soldiers and their trusted cronies were given the new vacant jobs that were created for them at the expense of the previous incumbents. The first thing they all did was immediately employ one or more family members as secretaries and assistants etc, all on nice fat salaries. One of them even managed to give his wife several different jobs simultaneously with several salaries. All this was reported by the press at the time but nothing has changed since then and this has continued until the present time. If you add up all those salaries over all that time it will be a tidy sum. Edited October 31, 2017 by Denim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Wasn't that the same reason of "appointing someone that he can trust" got Yingluck dismissed as Prime Minister when she re-assigned a senior security officer of the National Security Council? The irony of this all came from the Constitution Court judge when he said that the defendant has abused her position. Not same here or it is just because Meechai is correctly aligned. Just a small difference here.. there someone was sacked (abuse of power there are law governing when you can sack someone), here a new position was created. Still does not make nepotism right but comparing apples with oranges is not a good idea either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, baboon said: Excellent! I'll go out later and have sex with Mrs baboon's sister. When Mrs baboon gets upset about it I shall simply point out that it isn't against the law to which I am sure the reply will be 'Oh yeah... Fair enough, then...' Not. It was nice knowing you.. you always had nice posts.. you will be missed, or maybe if your lucky you will just miss part of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 30 minutes ago, robblok said: Junta nepotism, Shin nepotism its all bad and should be stopped. Though I am guilty of nepotism too as I employ the wife of my brother in my Dutch company. Though because its not funded by taxes I can do so. Nor are you in a position of unelected political power and the group you are part of preaching anti corruption and transparency, so it really isn't the same thing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 11 hours ago, webfact said: Meechai defended his position on Monday by arguing that he, a non-civil servant, was NOT AUTHORISED to ask other officers to take up the post of his deputy secretary-general, and that he NEEDED therefore to ask his daughter to do so. The NCPO-related job also requires a high degree of TRUST and confidentiality that his own offspring should be best fitted to provide, he added. LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE . . . That this twerp of an NCPO top-dog - a lawyer, no less - can lie as easily as he can tell the truth, makes me want to spew up, so distasteful a picture of Thai humanity does it paint. Every red word is a downright lie and he knows it and what makes matters worse, under Prayut, the most expert liar of all, he knows that he can get away with it . . . just like all the garbage that the Junta represents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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