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Irish government set to fall weeks before Brexit summit

By Conor Humphries and Padraic Halpin

 

Taoiseach (Prime Minister) of Ireland Leo Varadkar speaks on stage during his opening address of the Fine Gael national party conference in Ballyconnell, Ireland November 10, 2017. REUTERS/Clodagh Kilcoyne

 

DUBLIN (Reuters) - Ireland's minority government looked set to collapse within days on Friday after the party propping it up submitted a motion of no confidence in the deputy prime minister, weeks before a summit on Britain's plans to leave the European Union.

 

Prime Minister Leo Varadkar said that if the motion was not withdrawn by Tuesday, he would be forced to hold an election before Christmas, a prospect EU officials say would complicate a key EU summit on Dec. 14-15 on Brexit.

 

"What that would mean is me throwing a good woman under the bus to save myself and my own government, and that would be the wrong thing to do," Varadkar told national broadcaster RTE, dismissing demands for his deputy Frances Fitzgerald to quit.

 

Varadkar is due to play a major role in the Brexit talks, telling EU leaders whether Ireland believes sufficient progress has been made on the future border between EU-member Ireland and Britain's province of Northern Ireland.

 

The border is one of three issues Brussels wants broadly resolved before it decides whether to move the talks on to a second phase about trade, as Britain wants.

 

While Varadkar could go into the summit in a caretaker role, he said that any election would have to happen before Christmas so that he or his successor could attend the next meeting of EU leaders in February with a fresh mandate.

 

The head of opposition party Fianna Fail, Micheal Martin, earlier said an election "can be avoided if the government takes action" by asking Fitzgerald to resign. Varadkar said he would not seek, nor did he expect to be offered, a resignation.

 

Fianna Fail supports the minority Fine Gael government in a "confidence and supply" arrangement. Voting no confidence in a minister would break that agreement.

 

Varadkar and Martin met on Friday and were due to speak again over the weekend ahead of the motion of no-confidence in Fitzgerald, to be debated on Tuesday. The trigger is her handling of a legal case involving a police whistleblower.

 

"At a time when issues and decisions will need to be made that will reverberate in our country for decades to come, the prospect of either an election taking place or a government not being in place afterwards is actually unconscionable," Finance Minister Paschal Donohoe told RTE.

 

However a source familiar with Fine Gael's planning said it had begun to make preparations on Friday for a snap poll.

 

BORDER DEBATE

 

As well as the border, the other issues Brussels wants resolved before Brexit talks move on to trade arrangements are Britain's financial settlement on leaving the bloc and the rights of EU citizens living in Britain.

 

EU Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier assured Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveney on Friday that the EU would defend Dublin's position in talks with Britain over the coming weeks.

 

Coveney told parliament on Thursday the government was not yet ready to allow the talks to move on to trade issues, and needed more clarity from London.

 

Fianna Fail's Martin said parliament would be united behind Varadkar at the December summit.

 

University College Dublin politics professor David Farrell said Varadkar may be tempted to take an even harder line against the United Kingdom in the talks in a bid to shore up support among Irish voters, who are overwhelmingly against Brexit.

 

"I suppose the only card he can try and play to distract from the crazy shenanigans around the causes of this election is leadership in Europe," he said.

 

An election would likely be dominated by Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, two centre-right parties that differ little on policy but have been bitter foes for decades, something that has always left the minority government one serious row away from collapse.

 

But it would also present an opportunity for left-wing opposition party Sinn Fein to see if its veteran leader Gerry Adams' decision last week to step down will boost its support. The party said deputy leader Mary Lou McDonald would lead them into the election, if one is called.

 

While Sinn Fein, the third largest party in the Republic, has said it wants to enter government, the two largest parties have ruled out doing a deal with the former political wing of the Irish Republican Army (IRA).

 

Since Varadkar's appointment as Fine Gael leader six months ago, his party has narrowly led Fianna Fail in opinion polls, which suggest both parties would increase their support but struggle to form anything but another minority government.

 

 

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[dunroaming]

Looked upon as something of a side issue in the Brexit negotiations this is fast becoming a real deal changer.

[Baerboxer]

11 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Looked upon as something of a side issue in the Brexit negotiations this is fast becoming a real deal changer.

 

It was always going to be a very tricky subject to resolve, even with the best intentions.

 

But although the British and Irish governments want a really successful conclusion that's acceptable to all, other powerful EU members don't really care and their only interest is to use it as another stick to beat the UK.

 

I feel sorry for Ireland because Irish governments have always been one of the more sensible within the EU.

[dunroaming]

May made a "cast iron" commitment to honour the Northern Ireland agreement and that involves keeping the free movement of people and staying within the customs union.  The EU are very aware of that and are unlikely to make any concessions.  At some point the UK has to get off of the fence but on which side of the fence will they jump?

[rudi49jr]

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

It was always going to be a very tricky subject to resolve, even with the best intentions.

 

But although the British and Irish governments want a really successful conclusion that's acceptable to all, other powerful EU members don't really care and their only interest is to use it as another stick to beat the UK.

 

I feel sorry for Ireland because Irish governments have always been one of the more sensible within the EU.

 

I don't know where you get your news from, but the EU are certainly not the only culprit in this whole mess of a situation; the UK are also to blame for dragging their feet and being delusional that they can dictate the terms of the 'divorce'.

Edited November 25, 2017 by rudi49jr

[Basil B]

Maybe those south of the boarder may start to question the benefits of remaining in the EU?

[khunken]

26 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Maybe those south of the boarder may start to question the benefits of remaining in the EU?

Extremely unlikely as there is no non-political or political movement towards leaving. Also even the majority of citizens of N Ireland voted against Brexit.

 

The real issue is the border and May's rhetoric about "We and the Irish government continue to talk about solutions for that. We have the same desire. We want to ensure that movement of people and trade across that border can carry on as now." is completely useless without any proposals for a solution. It's a self-inflicted wound by May for using the totally narrow-minded DUP as a prop for her party.

[dunroaming]

1 hour ago, Basil B said:

Maybe those south of the boarder may start to question the benefits of remaining in the EU?