Airbagwill Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, smedly said: are there any educated adults running this country there are so many serious problems that need addressed and they are going to jail people for enjoying themselves I don't think fighting is enjoyable or large groups of noisy/rowdy people in NPs are enjoyable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, missoura said: Isn't Ko Samet also a National Park? Does this means the farangs will have to pay 200 baht for a bath, and locals only 100? Is shower cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Is there a two-tier fine? "No Drink Alcohol: Fine - 1,000 baht Thai, 100,000 baht foreigner" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: I don't think fighting is enjoyable or large groups of noisy/rowdy people in NPs are enjoyable I think once you get to your National Park you will be relatively safe, getting there safely is the issue, minivan bus boat car motorbike, your chances of survival increase dramatically once you arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, missoura said: Isn't Ko Samet also a National Park? With the number of English speaking foreigners in this country, I'll consistently amazed at Thais inability to have the content of their signage proof-read before making the sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronrat Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 So when I visit the outlaws in Sakeow we normally go through a military controlled elephant sanctuary to get to the village. Girlfriends Dad drives and I make a hole in a 6 pack of Singha Light. You reckon the soldiers are going to bother stopping all the local cars in case someone is drinking a beer. Is it a National Park? Never been pulled over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, smedly said: I think once you get to your National Park you will be relatively safe, getting there safely is the issue, minivan bus boat car motorbike, your chances of survival increase dramatically once you arrive. I visit NPs frequently, including camping at Christmas, New Year and Song Khran and quite apart from the disturbance drunks cause to other visitors they also caused the greatest amount of damage to the environment... From littering bottles and trampling plants. As someone who has driven in Thailand for over 20 years I'm confident enough and familiar with the dangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, samsensam said: TOURISTS risk a jail term plus a fine if they step into national parks with alcohol beverages. why only tourists? is this law aimed specifically at tourists and not people who live there or is it simply inaccurate reporting? it basically means anyone visiting the parks is what they are saying, people don't generally live in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggi1968 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) I wonder why the PM allow this kind of racism (payment apartheid). I am quit sure it harm the reputation of Thailand, which he care so much about........ P.s I actually think it is okay to ban alcohol in NP's Less dirt - I know I know I know I know ... Thailand is 1 big dumpster, but why not try to make it a little better. Edited December 4, 2017 by Muggi1968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinphuket Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Heaven forbid people having innocent fun, this will surely endear the junta to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 The double pricing entrance fee structure bothers me more then the sale of some beers either way i lost my appetite going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: The double pricing entrance fee structure bothers me more then the sale of some beers either way i lost my appetite going there. Although 2 tier pricing is a serious miscalculation which further emphasises the poor management policies of the DNP, I would be seriously worried about myself if I couldn't enjoy a trip without alcohol. Edited December 4, 2017 by Airbagwill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Ridiculous again. I would bet someone could get a picture at one time or the other of a high ranking official drinking alcohol in a park coming up. Next it will be all amusement parks, city parks, car parks, buffet's etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Airbagwill said: I don't think fighting is enjoyable or large groups of noisy/rowdy people in NPs are enjoyable Here's a thought: How about calling for the hooligans to be arrested instead of calling for bans on this or that? How many fights have started over someone looking at someone else's bird? Shouldn't women be banned from entering too, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Grammar police troll posts and replies have been removed. Off topic trolling posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, Muggi1968 said: I wonder why the PM allow this kind of racism (payment apartheid). I am quit sure it harm the reputation of Thailand, which he care so much about........ P.s I actually think it is okay to ban alcohol in NP's Less dirt - I know I know I know I know ... Thailand is 1 big dumpster, but why not try to make it a little better. Is littering with Coke bottles any more acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, baboon said: Here's a thought: How about calling for the hooligans to be arrested instead of calling for bans on this or that? How many fights have started over someone looking at someone else's bird? Shouldn't women be banned from entering too, then? Rather a bizarre argument, you appear to be a misogynist who wants to shut the door after the horse has bolted. Alcohol restrictions and bans are the norm around the world. If you go to a national park in Thailand over New Year it all becomes very clear why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, baboon said: Is littering with Coke bottles any more acceptable? When people aren't drunk they tend to take more care of how and where they litter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 This anti alcohol lobby has been sharpening their pencil again & obviously have the ear of the PM & his clan. So now I take the train & stay in a National Park & have to tee total for my holiday. Excuse me,,,, where is Vietnam, Cambodia, or Myanmar where I can enjoy a wine with my evening meal. Next news story,,,,,, no more driving on the roads it is dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: Rather a bizarre argument, you appear to be a misogynist who wants to shut the door after the horse has bolted. Alcohol restrictions and bans are the norm around the world. If you go to a national park in Thailand over New Year it all becomes very clear why. Nothing bizarre about it, wanting to remove the actual troublemakers instead of taking the path of least resistance and simply banning stuff. 10 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: When people aren't drunk they tend to take more care of how and where they litter. I have seen plenty of stone cold sober people slinging their crap out of train and car windows. Ban packaging, then? Ban windows? Or fine the litterer? Edited December 4, 2017 by baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Get Real said: If this keeps on in the same speed it looks like it´s soon time to implement an alcohol ban in the bars and restaurants. And your next landlord will tell you that you get evicted if you drink at home. The NeXT will be a smoking ban as it still seems to be allowed to smoke in national parks as long as the park zone not include a Beach...With other Words this ban seems to open for a smoke in this particular areas... Edited December 4, 2017 by ttrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 hours ago, fasteddie said: Well that's going to upset a lot of people on Phi Phi. And Samet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, stephen tracy said: What is it with all these jail terms for minor offences? Not surprizingly there are no relation what so ever between the length of the jailtime and the Maximum fine which means it is the fine that will be enforced and that only... The purpose of the jailtime option seems more to be a way to speed up and force through the fine option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 100 baths ... At least you will be clean Amazing they cannot even spell their own currency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacherduck Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Has anyone thought that maybe the quality of the roads and traffic conditions might be why people aren't going. 3 police check points( 10 police at each one) on the weekend same road within 10 kilometers. maybe 30 cops on the highways might be more effective in curbing road kill. Makes no sense to me whatsoever, but this is Thailand. Road kill in Australia is when you hit a kangaroo or wildlife, not humans, but that's the same value here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, natway09 said: 100 baths ... At least you will be clean Amazing they cannot even spell their own currency ....and some cant read the amount properly...(100 vs 1000)...;) Edited December 4, 2017 by ttrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Airbagwill said: I visit NPs frequently, including camping at Christmas, New Year and Song Khran and quite apart from the disturbance drunks cause to other visitors they also caused the greatest amount of damage to the environment... From littering bottles and trampling plants. As someone who has driven in Thailand for over 20 years I'm confident enough and familiar with the dangers. Don't go camping etc myself but was thinking on the same lines. I can imagine 6 to 10 of them close by with the pick up doors open and music blasting and them get noisier as the beer intake goes up. A nice relaxing evening for those around them, not. One warden is not going to chance telling 10 of them to keep it quiet and stop drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, overherebc said: Don't go camping etc myself but was thinking on the same lines. I can imagine 6 to 10 of them close by with the pick up doors open and music blasting and them get noisier as the beer intake goes up. A nice relaxing evening for those around them, not. One warden is not going to chance telling 10 of them to keep it quiet and stop drinking. Seems to me like there are two separate issues there: No consideration for others by playing loud music in the first place. Drinking too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 law enforcement is needed for all Thai drivers on the roads and their vehicles first. When will this lot get their act together and priorities correct?? Simple answer is NEVER.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I was at this National Park/beach last month, foreigners seemed to be buying Somtam & chicken with bottles of pepsi while the Thai families were all lugging cool boxes full of beer! I hope this ban is across the board. ie all visitors rather than use the term "tourists" which has a different connotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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