snoop1130 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Thai woman held in China over two million baht owed to clothes' traders A Thai woman is being held in the port city of Guangzhou in China in a dispute over money owed by a relative. The woman who has not been named was on a buying mission to stock a shop in the Platinum shopping center at Pratunam. But during the trip she was abducted and held by the Chinese clothes' sellers because her husband's elder sister owes the company two million baht. The elder sister has said that she does not have the money to pay the debt. The pair often went on buying trips together to China. The Pratunam trader contacted a Thai police friend in Chacherngsao who called immigration to intervene. They contacted the Chinese police who only took the woman into their own custody. The Chinese cops explained that Chinese and Thai law were different - a relative of someone who owed money who was believed to be in cahoots with the debtor could be held until the debt was paid. Thai authorities are scurrying to try and secure the trader's release by contacting their counterparts in China. Source: http://news.sanook.com/4566114/ -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-12-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysrainsinUK Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 LOL thats a change for the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 How about settling the debt with the Chinese company first and when she's home they can sort things out. Her family must have assets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Sounds like a law where the grocer always gets the money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The elder sister has said that she does not have the money to pay the debt. The pair often went on buying trips together to China. I can see why the Chinese police believe that the debt is a shared one, then. They could be wrong of course...except in China they never are. Even when they are. Unless they upset someone in the party that is. Aren’t totalitarian states wonderful. Edited December 11, 2017 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: Sounds like a law where the grocer always gets the money back. Sounds like a law where the supplier get paid, a law that doesn't exist in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 ''The pair often went on buying trips together to China ''. Seems 'buying' didn't come into it but just keep taking items to sell in Thailand without paying for them thinking they would get away with it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Typical Chinese M.O. If a debt isn't paid, just kidnap a relative and hold them for ransom. Nearly as bizarre as some Thai laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Chinese normally demand payment before releasing goods so her relative must have very good relationship and credit terms with the abductors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 A family dispute over money ?...now how can that be ??!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, ratcatcher said: How about settling the debt with the Chinese company first and when she's home they can sort things out. Her family must have assets here. They might have ran out of cash and perhaps a new clothes run should have filled one of the holes. I guess you know how good some of them are when it comes to money. Edited December 11, 2017 by jenny2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Jools said: Typical Chinese M.O. If a debt isn't paid, just kidnap a relative and hold them for ransom. Nearly as bizarre as some Thai laws. But wasn't she there with her relative before, so they might think that both are doing the business. Well, it certainly looks like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 You go this time as we owe a bit of cash and they are too stupid to realise you are family, Oh no they are not. Pay Up Time is it not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: I can see why the Chinese police believe that the debt is a shared one, then. They could be wrong of course...except in China they never are. Even when they are. Unless they upset someone in the party that is. Aren’t totalitarian states wonderful. Only wonderful when you don't have to live there. teaching there is long out of my mind after some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, jenny2017 said: Only wonderful when you don't have to live there. teaching there is long out of my mind after some research. Sarcasm emoji, sarcasm emoji, where the hell is that sarcasm emoji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, jenny2017 said: Only wonderful when you don't have to live there. teaching there is long out of my mind after some research. Have some friends teaching in guangzhou. They love it. Chauffeur to school or anywhere they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 China teaching.. 6 day work week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracas Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Surely a good 'wai' from the Thai lady and a promise to pay next time should resolve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, ratcatcher said: How about settling the debt with the Chinese company first and when she's home they can sort things out. Her family must have assets here. dont u get it they dont want to pay like most Thais in the world they want everything for free. hope their allowed to start to tourtcher her soon. Edited December 12, 2017 by catman20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Well if she was there on a buying mission, then it seems like she is acting like an officer of the company, having the authority to sign contracts and procure goods. culpable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 10 hours ago, Bluespunk said: I can see why the Chinese police believe that the debt is a shared one, then. They could be wrong of course...except in China they never are. Even when they are. Unless they upset someone in the party that is. Aren’t totalitarian states wonderful. 1 I worked in China for about 4 years, was nothing like I expected it to be. The only time I was aware of the Army was the red number plate they have on their cars so no one messes with the Army even the police who are powerless. A lawless place you can do what you want within reason as you don't speak out against the regime.The brainwashing of people, who still look at Mao as a hero of the people, is still taking place with the younger generation. We had students as translators, when the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre was coming up I asked the student in a vague manner, "What happened there then" as if I didn't know and he responded "It was foreigners causing trouble" Back to the topic she won't get out until they pay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 The report neglects to mention how much is the debt owed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 A racist post has been hidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: The report neglects to mention how much is the debt owed? The heading may give a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I hate those tradespeople who most of the time live above their means and who afterwards think it's easier not to pay their debts to the wholesalers, and they are many more of them in every country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, cyberfarang said: The report neglects to mention how much is the debt owed? From paragraph 3 ''But during the trip she was abducted and held by the Chinese clothes' sellers because her husband's elder sister owes the company two million baht.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 22 hours ago, Jools said: Typical Chinese M.O. If a debt isn't paid, just kidnap a relative and hold them for ransom. Nearly as bizarre as some Thai laws. Much better than the American model, let them repeatedly scam millions by not paying debts then make them president for coming second in a two horse race, now that really is bizarre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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