SURVEY: Do you want Trump to finish his first term?

[Becker]

1 hour ago, F4UCorsair said:

Remind me of what he HAS found to incriminate Trump as a number of you have been contending for well over a year now.   You first.

 

59 minutes ago, Becker said:

Never said he had found something although I have repeatedly said I do think he will. Unlike you I don't have the inside info into the Mueller investigation so I will just have to wait and see.

Now you.

Nothing? How utterly unsurprising...

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

 Thanks to some help by the  past administration and PT administration continuance of seeing a path to American independence in oil production. This article shows this  administration has a knack to see how to protect Americans, while opening  up our natural resources. 

"U.S. Will Be the World’s Largest Oil Producer by 2023, Says IEA"

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-will-be-the-worlds-largest-oil-producer-by-2023-says-iea-1520236810

Edited March 6, 2018 by riclag

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

But you guys had Trump impeached, even charged within weeks of the investigation starting.   More recently it's been......this investigation isn't scheduled to finish until October 2018, then......... it could go on until the next election, and........... it's now unlikely that Trump will be impeached, and........it could be worse if he is impeached, charged and removed because Pence would assume the Presidency.  You're all grasping at straws, destroying yourselves with hatred of a result you didn't want, when you thought the democrats had it in the bag.  The extreme bias of the press, left and right, handed it to Trump, and now very little of what they print can be given any credence.   Their making.

 

I just don't understand the hatred and bitterness.   He won fair and square, no evidence to the contrary, yet it seems some of you guys have an insight into the investigation that others don't???    If so, please enlighten all of us, the infidels!!

"I just don't understand the hatred and bitterness."

 

Do you recall the hatred and bitterness when Obama was President?  Hatred and bitterness that led Trump to be the mouthpiece of the repeatedly discredited Birther movement? 

 

Some people feel a similar hatred and bitterness towards Trump.  However our feelings are based on his blatant incompetence and the damage he's doing to the country.  The Obama hatred and bitterness was based on his skin color.

[heybruce]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Thanks to some help by the  past administration and PT continuance of seeing a path to American independence in oil production. This article shows PT is a savvy business man with a knack to see how to protect Americans, while opening  up our natural resources. 

"U.S. Will Be the World’s Largest Oil Producer by 2023, Says IEA"

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-will-be-the-worlds-largest-oil-producer-by-2023-says-iea-1520236810

Now you are crediting Trump with something that began in the first term of the Obama administration, and won't come true until years in the future.  https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production 

 

OPEC and its allies, through their ham-fisted attempts to manipulate oil prices, have made the US fracking industry profitable.  Trump had nothing to do with it.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

But NOTHING to incriminate Trump.   Even you must know that??

Or he's found lots to incriminate Trump, and is now putting it together into an air-tight case.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Or he's found lots to incriminate Trump, and is now putting it together into an air-tight case.

Exactly. It's quite possible there is no explicit "collusion" but that doesn't mean there aren't other crimes such as obstruction of justice and money laundering. 

[Jingthing]

Why "trump" deserves no respect. I've said this before, but here it is again:

Quote

 

Opinion | Trump disrespects the presidency. So I don’t respect him.

With enemies or mere critics, Trump picks at their scabs. This, in fact, is his true talent, honed during his years of hosting “The Apprentice.”

What respect — if any — is due President Trump?

 

 

Answer: NONE!

 

http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-Trump-disrespects-the-presidency--So-I-don’t-respect-him-.SJv7bDj_G.html

Edited March 6, 2018 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

About the LONG TERM damage "trump" is doing, and it's only been a year. That's why I want him GONE asap, bible thumper Pence or not. The longer this corrupt con man stays in office, the more damage he does, and that damage is going to be long term. People that say that he's just another bad president don't get it.

 

Quote

 

Opinion | The Trump presidency could cost the nation more than we realize

As in many countries we scoff at, Americans must now wonder whether policy is being tailored for our leaders’ personal gain.

As the saying goes, you don’t miss the water until the well runs dry: This deeply aberrant presidency threatens to cost the nation much more than even some of President Trump’s harshest critics may realize.

 

 

http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-The-Trump-presidency-could-cost-the-nation-more-than-we-realize.SkHVXZPouz.html

Edited March 6, 2018 by Jingthing

[riclag]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Now you are crediting Trump with something that began in the first term of the Obama administration, and won't come true until years in the future.  https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production 

 

OPEC and its allies, through their ham-fisted attempts to manipulate oil prices, have made the US fracking industry profitable.  Trump had nothing to do with it.

" Thanks to some help by the  past administration and PT administration continuance" .

   You missed this part above!

And if PT didn't want or have  anything to do with it then he would of stopped it. 

Edited March 6, 2018 by riclag

[riclag]

26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Why "trump" deserves no respect. I've said this before, but here it is again:

 

Answer: NONE!

 

http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-Trump-disrespects-the-presidency--So-I-don’t-respect-him-.SJv7bDj_G.html

Who wrote this article,Richard Cohen?

[ilostmypassword]

10 minutes ago, riclag said:

Who wrote this article,Richard Cohen?

The article does list him as the author. You've got suspicions that this is not the case?

[riclag]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

"I just don't understand the hatred and bitterness."

 

Do you recall the hatred and bitterness when Obama was President?  Hatred and bitterness that led Trump to be the mouthpiece of the repeatedly discredited Birther movement? 

 

Some people feel a similar hatred and bitterness towards Trump.  However our feelings are based on his blatant incompetence and the damage he's doing to the country.  The Obama hatred and bitterness was based on his skin color.

 A  large majority of American's respected Obama regardless of his skin color and  his, what at the time was speculation of his heritage.Which was proven to be false speculation.The wacko white supremacy  Nazi 's don't represent what real American's  feel  about the office of the Presidency.Most American's are loyal to our democratic process regardless of who is in the office and despite what the MSM spews .

[heybruce]

25 minutes ago, riclag said:

" Thanks to some help by the  past administration and PT administration continuance" .

   You missed this part above!

And if PT didn't want or have  anything to do with it then he would of stopped it. 

So you are so desperate to post something good about Trump that you now give him credit for not over-ruling something done by Obama?

[ilostmypassword]

On 3/2/2018 at 4:59 PM, riclag said:

Sources?

Are you seriously contending that the economic recovery didn't begin in the Obama administration? Do you still not know that the stock market, which you seem to believe is a prime indicator of economic health, made a massive recovery during Obama's tenure? If so, you missed out on making a huge pile of money in the stock market.

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, riclag said:

Who wrote this article,Richard Cohen?

Yes. Four time Pulitzer prize finalist.

[heybruce]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

 A  large majority of American's respected Obama regardless of his skin color and  his, what at the time was speculation of his heritage.Which was proven to be false speculation.The wacko white supremacy  Nazi 's don't represent what real American's  feel  about the office of the Presidency.Most American's are loyal to our democratic process regardless of who is in the office and despite what the MSM spews .

You realize Trump was leading the wacko white supremacy Nazi's on the birther issue, don't you?

 

For this and other reasons, we give Trump the same respect he showed President Obama.

[Jools]

Trump is not going to be indicted. He is not likely to be impeached by his own party. I hope he finishes his term and faces the humiliation of a "Blue Wave" sweeping away both his administration and the Republican majority. America had to learn the hard way. We are justifiably a world laughingstock.

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, heybruce said:

So you are so desperate to post something good about Trump that you now give him credit for not over-ruling something done by Obama?

Credit where credit is due.Most news about PT is negative!! And any positive is quickly dissected,spun ,demonized and sometimes not covered. No President has come close even Obama, to the hatred,hysteria and negativity that is published about him everyday.

" Hysteria and the demonetization of a president"

https://www.univision.com/univision-news/opinion/hysteria-and-the-demonization-of-a-president

[heybruce]

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

Credit where credit is due.Most news about PT is negative!! And any positive is quickly dissected,spun ,demonized and sometimes not covered. No President has come close even Obama, to the hatred,hysteria and negativity that is published about him everyday.

" Hysteria and the demonetization of a president"

https://www.univision.com/univision-news/opinion/hysteria-and-the-demonization-of-a-president

I agree that most news about Trump is negative, but the most positive things that can be said about him are negative:  He has not yet derailed the Obama economic recovery, he has not undermined the country's trend to energy independence, he has not started a nuclear war. 

 

I'm stumped for any positive things Trump has accomplished. 

[simple1]

8 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I'm stumped for any positive things Trump has accomplished.

Some examples...

Heightened awareness of sexual abuse

Underlining the folly of nepotism

Proving the 'Peter Principle'

 

Edited March 6, 2018 by simple1

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I agree that most news about Trump is negative, but the most positive things that can be said about him are negative:  He has not yet derailed the Obama economic recovery, he has not undermined the country's trend to energy independence, he has not started a nuclear war. 

 

I'm stumped for any positive things Trump has accomplished. 

I don't like doing this, but perhaps "trump's" bizarre acting out about North Korea has brought them to the table. The jury is still out on that depending on results. 

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, Jools said:

Trump is not going to be indicted. He is not likely to be impeached by his own party. I hope he finishes his term and faces the humiliation of a "Blue Wave" sweeping away both his administration and the Republican majority. America had to learn the hard way. We are justifiably a world laughingstock.

Does the world see America struggling politically ? Why would someone laugh at that? We are a country divided politically like never before,left and right liberal and conservative ideas. Sure some laugh but I suspect they have laughed before and will in the future.

[smotherb]

On 1/28/2018 at 1:49 PM, i claudius said:

Well at least he doesnt pussyfoot around and says what many are afraid to say out loud

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So does a babbling idiot.

[manchega]

still waiting for his mussolini moment, but also feel that way about junta

[heybruce]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I don't like doing this, but perhaps "trump's" bizarre acting out about North Korea has brought them to the table. The jury is still out on that depending on results. 

He's playing chicken with a nuclear state.  Even if it ends well, it's not a good idea.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

He's playing chicken with a nuclear state.  Even if it ends well, it's not a good idea.

It's possible that he might get lucky sometimes. To beat this devil of deception, I don't think it's helpful to fall as low as he is. If it turns out he deserves some credit for some things, I say, that's OK. Overall he's still a total disaster. 

[i claudius]

So does a babbling idiot.

To be honest i know very little about him.its just i am sick of politicians that pussyfoot around.say one thing and do another, at the end of the day they are allin it for themselves like our Blair was

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[manchega]

25 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I agree that most news about Trump is negative, but the most positive things that can be said about him are negative:  He has not yet derailed the Obama economic recovery, he has not undermined the country's trend to energy independence, he has not started a nuclear war. 

 

I'm stumped for any positive things Trump has accomplished. 

demonstrated just how tacky the us is.

 

really, it is a country epitomised by the Simpsons.

 

 

[smotherb]

1 minute ago, i claudius said:

To be honest i know very little about him.its just i am sick of politicians that pussyfoot around.say one thing and do another, at the end of the day they are allin it for themselves like our Blair was

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Then, you don't want trump. He lies so often it has become the norm. He says one thing, then when caught, he denies it. Over and over again. Just google, "Trumps Lies"  Then go through the denial stage yourself and call them all "FAKE News."

[mikebike]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

 Thanks to some help by the  past administration and PT administration continuance of seeing a path to American independence in oil production. This article shows this  administration has a knack to see how to protect Americans, while opening  up our natural resources. 

"U.S. Will Be the World’s Largest Oil Producer by 2023, Says IEA"

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-will-be-the-worlds-largest-oil-producer-by-2023-says-iea-1520236810

USA was headed towards energy independence regardless of 45.The only reason the USA was not oil independent decades ago was US oil was MORE EXPENSIVE  to extract than foreign oil was to buy. Plumbass...

 

Is this the same knack as 45's steel/alum tariffs creating jobs? Ya know, the slightly uniformed post you made made then deleted?