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Man radicalised by TV drama guilty of ramming van into Muslims near London mosque

 

FILE PHOTO: Buses pass the Mosque in Finsbury Park, north London January 12, 1999. REUTERS/Russell Boyce/File Photo

 

LONDON (Reuters) - A man who developed a hatred of Muslims after watching a TV drama about child sex crimes involving Asian men was found guilty on Thursday of ploughing a van into worshippers outside a north London Mosque weeks later, killing one.

 

Darren Osborne, 48, drove the hired vehicle into a group of Muslims gathered around father-of-six Makram Ali, 51, who had collapsed near his home after leaving late-night Ramadan prayers in Finsbury Park.

 

He killed Ali and injured 12 others, two seriously. At Woolwich Crown Court, Osborne was found guilty of murder and attempted murder, with police and prosecutors saying it was an act of terrorism.

 

It was the fourth incident blamed on terrorists in Britain in the space of three months and it followed three Islamist attacks.

 

Osborne, who had not previously expressed far-right views, developed an obsession with Muslims after watching the BBC programme "Three Girls", a drama broadcast last May about events in Rochdale, northern England, where white girls were abused by gangs of mainly British Pakistani men.

 

This hatred was subsequently fuelled by online research into extreme right-wing figures and groups, police said.

Osborne will be sentenced on Friday.

 

(Reporting by Michael Holden; editing by Stephen Addison)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-02-02

[darksidedog]

To my mind, there is no defense for what he did. Whatever your view on Islam, or any other religion, there is no excuse whatsoever to intentionally hurt, maim and kill innocent people.

I look forward to the day that people from any ethnicity or religion understand and respect that. We do only have one planet that we kind of need to share after all.

[canuckamuck]

Hopefully the reaction to this will not be more looking the other way. Which is what caused the abuse of hundreds of girls in the first place. The man was wrong in his methods, but his outrage is understandable.

[daoyai]

this will be used endlessly by the SJW "diversity" movement as an example of anti mussy terror and as attempt to form a false equivalency .... ignoring the statistical reality.

[dunroaming]

9 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

Hopefully the reaction to this will not be more looking the other way. Which is what caused the abuse of hundreds of girls in the first place. The man was wrong in his methods, but his outrage is understandable.

He was radicalised by the far right morons, like the man who murdered Jo Cox.  The man was an easily manipulated drunk who apparently was well known for stupid outbursts.  Sounds like a perfect fit for Britain First. 

[canuckamuck]

14 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

He was radicalised by the far right morons, like the man who murdered Jo Cox.  The man was an easily manipulated drunk who apparently was well known for stupid outbursts.  Sounds like a perfect fit for Britain First. 

Radicalized! I would say that he demonstrated a lack of self control and was perhaps already a violent person. What happened to those girls was enough to enrage anyone. It is shocking really that the general response was so timid.  This has nothing to do with right VS left, unless you suggest that the left doesn't mind as much what happened to the girls in Rochdale.

[Air Smiles]

He was radicalised by people like hate preacher Tommy Robinson of the EDL, who he was in direct contact with.

[canuckamuck]

18 minutes ago, Air Smiles said:

He was radicalised by people like hate preacher Tommy Robinson of the EDL, who he was in direct contact with.

He was radicalized by a bunch of child molesters actually

[stevenl]

38 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Radicalized! I would say that he demonstrated a lack of self control and was perhaps already a violent person. What happened to those girls was enough to enrage anyone. It is shocking really that the general response was so timid.  This has nothing to do with right VS left, unless you suggest that the left doesn't mind as much what happened to the girls in Rochdale.

His hatred was fueled by the far right.

 

You can deny, but that doesn't change the fact.

[canuckamuck]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

His hatred was fueled by the far right.

 

You can deny, but that doesn't change the fact.

So the real crime here was the unacceptable political opinions and the systematic rape of of hundreds of young girls is really immaterial in all this. 

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

So the real crime here was the unacceptable political opinions and the systematic rape of of hundreds of young girls is really immaterial in all this. 

Said who?

[canuckamuck]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Said who?

An assumption in the context that you appear to suggest far right opinions were more to blame for his outrage than the child molesting. 

[sirineou]

34 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

He was radicalized by a bunch of child molesters actually

 Under that logic then the  radical muslims are radicalised by a bunch warmongers in the west.

Edited February 2, 2018 by sirineou

[Orton Rd]

50 minutes ago, Air Smiles said:

He was radicalised by people like hate preacher Tommy Robinson of the EDL, who he was in direct contact with.

Tommy Robinson is not in the EDL and the man was not in direct contact with him. If you can produce any 'hate' Tommy has said please post it. Opposition to radical Islam, sharia law and life lived by Mohammad is not 'hate' of course.

[Bluespunk]

Rot in gaol, filth. 

Edited February 2, 2018 by Bluespunk

[Orton Rd]

Just now, sirineou said:

 Under that logic then the muslims are radicalised by a bunch warmongers in the west.

Muslims need no help, Islam is in itself radical, violent and supremacist. 

[canuckamuck]

7 minutes ago, sirineou said:

 Under that logic then the  radical muslims are radicalised by a bunch warmongers in the west.

Yes,  but a few more pieces on the board in that scenario

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Yes,  but a few more pieces on the board in that scenario

 I think both sides take events out of context in a successful IMO attempt to further their political ambitions. 

[canuckamuck]

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

 I think both sides take events out of context in a successful IMO attempt to further their political ambitions. 

And it always will be so

[dundee48]

Just been reported he has been jailed for a minimum of 43 years.

Can someone remind me how long the muslim serial rapists were jailed for?Not anywhere near that term I would guess.

 

[Air Smiles]

38 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Tommy Robinson is not in the EDL and the man was not in direct contact with him.

 

Lol,

Convicted criminal Tommy Robinson is the founder of the English Defence League.

 

And yes, the convicted right wing terrorist Darren Osborne has been in direct contact with convicted criminal and founder of the English Defence League, Tommy Robinson :

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/finsbury-park-attack-trial-live-darren-osborne-court-muslims-mosque-van-latest-news-updates-a8173496.html

Edited February 2, 2018 by Air Smiles

[Bluespunk]

25 minutes ago, dundee48 said:

Just been reported he has been jailed for a minimum of 43 years.

Can someone remind me how long the muslim serial rapists were jailed for?Not anywhere near that term I would guess.

 

If you want to know, google it. 

 

But, then, that isn’t why you posted, is it?

[Orton Rd]

1 hour ago, Air Smiles said:

 

Lol,

Convicted criminal Tommy Robinson is the founder of the English Defence League.

 

And yes, the convicted right wing terrorist Darren Osborne has been in direct contact with convicted criminal and founder of the English Defence League, Tommy Robinson :

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/finsbury-park-attack-trial-live-darren-osborne-court-muslims-mosque-van-latest-news-updates-a8173496.html

Convicted of lending his BIL 20k which he then used in a dodgy mortgage fraud, they were out to get him. The EDL was only set up as a response to vile Muslim protests in Luton against returning service men and women. When it became infiltrated by right wing activists Robinson left.The direct contact is nonsense, Robinson in no way encouraged him in his views. Any sane person would be appalled by the Islamic rapists case. Robinson does not condone or encourage violence..

Edited February 2, 2018 by Orton Rd

[Air Smiles]

13 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

The direct contact is nonsense,

 

It's a matter of public record that the founder of EDL, convicted criminal and hate preacher Tommy Robinson was sending messages to the terrorist,  another hate preacher Jayda Fransen, the deputy leader of Britain First was also sending him messages.

 

You might want to read the court transcript before embarrassing yourself any further.

[Orton Rd]

You have not come up with any 'hate' I see from Robinson, the real haters the left will be dining out on this one case for weeks. If you push people far enough you will get a reaction like this sooner or later, good thing the Brits are so tolerant.

Edited February 2, 2018 by Orton Rd

[Bluespunk]

It’s funny how nice and decent organisations like the edl start off with no race hatred, yet rapidly become hate movements. 

 

I’ve  been part of campaigns and movements in the past and yet none of them became neo nazi, hate groups. 

 

Funny that.

 

Almost as if the groups that become consumed with hate, were born in hate. 

[Orton Rd]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

It’s funny how nice and decent organisations like the edl start off with no race hatred, yet rapidly become hate movements. 

 

I’ve  been part of campaigns and movements in the past and yet none of them became neo nazi, hate groups. 

 

Funny that.

 

Almost as if the groups that become consumed with hate, were born in hate. 

Where is the hate in opposing radical Islam, sharia law, fgm and the oppression of women, gays and Jews? how is that 'racist'

[dundee48]

43 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

If you want to know, google it. 

 

But, then, that isn’t why you posted, is it?

Correct,well done you.

[Bluespunk]

15 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Where is the hate in opposing radical Islam, sharia law, fgm and the oppression of women, gays and Jews? how is that 'racist'

They are bigots, consumed by hate. 

[Bluespunk]

13 minutes ago, dundee48 said:

Correct,well done you.

It’s not hard to spot.