Korat: One killed, 16 injured as careening bus slams into eight trucks

[webfact]

One killed, 16 injured as careening bus slams into eight trucks

By The Nation

 

The hostess on an air-conditioned Nakhon-Ratchasima-Bangkok bus was killed on Sunday night when the driver lost control and ploughed into eight other vehicles.

 

Police said Maneerat Sisai, 26, died at the scene and 16 other people were injured.

 

Pol Lt Col Thanawat Prispornphan of Sungnone district police said the accident occurred at 9.30pm in Ban Buyai village, Tambon Sungnone.

 

Bus driver Panom Sudlapha sustained a severe head injury and was taken to Maharaj Nakhon Ratchasima Hospital, where he told police he’d lost control on the rain-slick road.

 

The bus crossed the road median into oncoming traffic, striking a 10-wheel truck, five six-wheel trucks and a pickup.

 

The other 15 people injured were mostly passengers on the bus.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30339693

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-02-26

[1337markus]

where he told police he’d lost control on the rain-slick road.

 

Dont take busses out on the roads when there is rain!  Fixed, next.

[RichardColeman]

Just another statistic for the number 1 position.

[webfact]

Bus crash leaves one killed, 16 injured on Friendship Highway

By Thai PBS

 

 

One bus hostess was killed and 16 others were injured after the bus skidded, crashing a traffic island and colliding head-on with a truck on the Friendship highway in Soong Nern district of Nakhon Ratchasima province on Sunday night.

 

Six other trucks were also damaged in the fatal traffic that happened at about 9.30pm on the highway.

 

Questioning of passengers and other truck drivers revealed that the bus of Nakhon Chai Tour company was taking passengers from Korat to Bangkok.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/bus-crash-leaves-one-killed-16-injured-friendship-highway/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-02-26

[khwaibah]

NCA has lost its high safety ratings. "The bus driver said his bus skidded because of the slippery road after raining." NO it skidded because it was going to fast for the conditions and the driver was incompetent and now has killed.

[simoh1490]

3 minutes ago, khwaibah said:

NCA has lost its high safety ratings. "The bus driver said his bus skidded because of the slippery road after raining." NO it skidded because it was going to fast for the conditions and the driver was incompetent and now has killed.

I suppose you think only Thai drivers lose control of their vehicles when it's wet and that they must be incompetent and speeding, if it happens elsewhere it must be down to road conditions and rain, right!

[Darcula]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

he told police he’d lost control on the rain-slick road

 

Takes a bit of concussion to force the truth out anyone these days.

 

[thaichiro]

Head knock kept him from doing the usual runner after accident. Now he’ll have to pay up! 

Might be interesting to do an investigation into the actual training these bus drivers have before placing all those lives in their hands.

[KhunBENQ]

43 minutes ago, khwaibah said:

NCA has lost its high safety ratings. "The bus driver said his bus skidded because of the slippery road after raining." NO it skidded because it was going to fast for the conditions and the driver was incompetent and now has killed.

Hmm.

Look at side of the bus and see "NCT" (Nakhonchai Tour company)

I suspect it's (another) look alike of "NCA" (Nakhonchai Air).

Edited February 26, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[PETERTHEEATER]

......One bus hostess was killed and 16 others were injured after the bus skidded, crashing a traffic island and colliding head-on with a truck .......

 

Seventeen hostesses in one bus? That's service!

[ubonjoe]

11 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Look at side of the bus and see "NCT" (Nakhonchai Tour company)

I suspect it's (another) look alike of "NCA" (Nakhonchai Air).

It is certainly not a NCA bus. It does not even look like one to me.

[khwaibah]

24 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Hmm.

Look at side of the bus and see "NCT" (Nakhonchai Tour company)

24 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Hmm.

Look at side of the bus and see "NCT" (Nakhonchai Tour company)

I suspect it's (another) look alike of "NCA" (Nakhonchai Air).

I suspect it's (another) look alike of "NCA" (Nakhonchai Air).

NCA owns Nakhonchai Tour. Same company.

[spidermike007]

Said it before, but I will say it again- 

And why are these drivers reckless, or speeding in the first place? The primary reason is the toy police force. Nobody, and I mean nobody takes these guys seriously. There is absolutely nothing in the way of a deterrent here, and both the local governments, the central government (weak Little P.) and the police do not take traffic safety seriously. Not even one iota. The safety of the public means less than zero to the small men in charge here. Nothing. They show that on a daily basis.

 

They will not do a thing. Why? They do not care about the people one iota. Not the common people. Not the average pleb. No way. Never have cared, and may never care in the future. Also, there is not enough money in it. It is all about protecting the elite, the super wealthy, those that are connected, and those in power. The rest of the population? They do not matter. The ex-pat community does not matter. And the police will not get involved unless an accident has already occurred. There is no prevention. None. The idea of getting the police more involved, is an interesting one, and it would be an effective one. But, the issue is money. They are grossly underpaid, and until the government steps up, and spends the trillion baht on updating the police equipment, and paying each cop a living wage, it is not going to happen. Until then, they will just work the franchise. 

 

When I was growing up, we took drivers education classes. They showed us these horrendous films, of semi trucks crashing into cars, and literally obliterating them, and everything inside. Also, they showed very graphic images of head on collisions. Even as a young kid, it left a lasting impression, and I realized driving was no joking matter. Especially when you have your friends, or loved ones in the car with you. I am constantly astonished at the kinds of chances people take here, with their entire family in the car with them. Why? What is the logic? What is the reason? Why take those risks? Often, when someone cuts onto the highway in front of me, as I am doing 100kpm or more on the highway, I look in my rearview mirror, and there is nobody behind me for quite some distance. Which means, had they paused, and waited 2 or 3 seconds, there would have been zero risk to them, their family, or me and my family. What can one even say? All of this matters even more when driving a motorbike, where there is no protection. 

 

The only way to survive here on the road, is to be patient, have eyes in the back of your head, drive with caution, and always, and I mean always watch out of the other guy. Chances are, he does not have much driving skill, nor patience, nor reason, nor common sense. You cannot be too careful on the road here. Especially considering that the toy police offer no traffic safety, nor enforcement of the law. 

All the checkpoints do is clog traffic on the highways, and put alot of cash into the pockets of the toy police. It is all about catching people performing moving violations. That is what causes most accidents. And herein lies the deterrent. As long as everyone is allowed to get away with extremely reckless driving, entering the highway in front of an oncoming vehicle that is only 100 meters away, going 100kph, cutting in front of vehicles within one meter at high speeds, swerving like crazy idiots all over the highway, trucks and 40 year old cars occupying the fast lane doing 40kph, when other vehicles are approaching doing 120kph, drunk driving, etc, accidents, major injuries and deaths will continue to happen, and no amount of rhetoric and platitudes by the fabulously incompetent and insincere authorities are going to make any difference. 

 

Real men do what is necessary to save lives. Kids and highly underdeveloped people make promises, tell lies and engage in deflection.

 

Little P.  - Moving Thailand backwards at a breath taking, alarming, and astonishing pace. 

 

[sawadee1947]

I suppose he's the top scorer in demolishing other cars with a bus. Is there a contest around. 

RIP woman

[simoh1490]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Said it before, but I will say it again- 

And why are these drivers reckless, or speeding in the first place? The primary reason is the toy police force. Nobody, and I mean nobody takes these guys seriously. There is absolutely nothing in the way of a deterrent here, and both the local governments, the central government (weak Little P.) and the police do not take traffic safety seriously. Not even one iota. The safety of the public means less than zero to the small men in charge here. Nothing. They show that on a daily basis.

 

They will not do a thing. Why? They do not care about the people one iota. Not the common people. Not the average pleb. No way. Never have cared, and may never care in the future. Also, there is not enough money in it. It is all about protecting the elite, the super wealthy, those that are connected, and those in power. The rest of the population? They do not matter. The ex-pat community does not matter. And the police will not get involved unless an accident has already occurred. There is no prevention. None. The idea of getting the police more involved, is an interesting one, and it would be an effective one. But, the issue is money. They are grossly underpaid, and until the government steps up, and spends the trillion baht on updating the police equipment, and paying each cop a living wage, it is not going to happen. Until then, they will just work the franchise. 

 

When I was growing up, we took drivers education classes. They showed us these horrendous films, of semi trucks crashing into cars, and literally obliterating them, and everything inside. Also, they showed very graphic images of head on collisions. Even as a young kid, it left a lasting impression, and I realized driving was no joking matter. Especially when you have your friends, or loved ones in the car with you. I am constantly astonished at the kinds of chances people take here, with their entire family in the car with them. Why? What is the logic? What is the reason? Why take those risks? Often, when someone cuts onto the highway in front of me, as I am doing 100kpm or more on the highway, I look in my rearview mirror, and there is nobody behind me for quite some distance. Which means, had they paused, and waited 2 or 3 seconds, there would have been zero risk to them, their family, or me and my family. What can one even say? All of this matters even more when driving a motorbike, where there is no protection. 

 

The only way to survive here on the road, is to be patient, have eyes in the back of your head, drive with caution, and always, and I mean always watch out of the other guy. Chances are, does not have much driving skill, nor patience, nor reason, nor common sense. You cannot be too careful on the road here. Especially considering that the toy police offer no traffic safety, nor enforcement of the law. 

All the checkpoints do is clog traffic on the highways, and put alot of cash into the pockets of the toy police. It is all about catching people performing moving violations. That is what causes most accidents. And herein lies the deterrent. As long as everyone is allowed to get away with extremely reckless driving, entering the highway in front of an oncoming vehicle that is only 100 meters away, going 100kph, cutting in front of vehicles within one meter at high speeds, swerving like crazy idiots all over the highway, trucks and 40 year old cars occupying the fast lane doing 40kph, when other vehicles are approaching doing 120kph, drunk driving, etc, accidents, major injuries and deaths will continue to happen, and no amount of rhetoric and platitudes by the fabulously incompetent and insincere authorities are going to make any difference. 

 

Real men do what is necessary to save lives. Kids and highly underdeveloped people make promises, tell lies and engage in deflection.

 

Little P.  - Moving Thailand backwards at a breath taking, alarming, and astonishing pace. 

 

9

All you know is that a driver lost control of his bus after sudden rain yet you manage to conclude the driver was reckless and speeding and probably  doesn't have much common sense etc. Who knows, maybe you're right but I see you're not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, I mean, slippery roads after rain don't occur in Thailand so that can't possibly be the reason. Anyway, nice rant but your bias is showing, just slightly! 

[ancharee]

4 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

......One bus hostess was killed and 16 others were injured after the bus skidded, crashing a traffic island and colliding head-on with a truck .......

 

Seventeen hostesses in one bus? That's service!

The lady died working on the bus, and you are making this into a joke, go back to your bar stool.

[farcanell]

10 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

I suppose you think only Thai drivers lose control of their vehicles when it's wet and that they must be incompetent and speeding, if it happens elsewhere it must be down to road conditions and rain, right!

After the release of the news that Thailand has the worst road safety record in the world, I think everyone thinks Thai drivers are incompetent,  and for us here, its evidenced by the horrendously repetitive bus crash’s that we read about... much like this one... proving that a lot of drivers are incompetent.... ergo the first logical assumption (admittedly, it may be a wrong assumption... but then... worlds worst roads and all)

 

6 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

driver lost control of his bus after sudden rain

“ bus driver said his bus skidded because of the slippery road after raining.” (From link)

 

so..... sudden rain... what’s that? An embellishment to reduce culpability?

with it raining in Thailand about 30% of the time, a professional driver should never be in the position to blame it on the rain..... an incompetent driver might

6 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

Anyway, nice rant but your bias is showing, just slightly! 

Lmao.... his bias ain’t showing anywhere near as much as yours..... ????... and I didn’t even need to read his post!

Edited February 26, 2018 by farcanell

[farcanell]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Said it before, but I will say it again- 

Lol... nice post.... after my previous, I figured it only fair to read it

 

and... I’ve said it before...... the minister for police should be held accountable for the national embarrassment that is Thai road safety, and is negligent in office, to allow this to not only continue, but worsen

 

Lock up one minister for negligence... lock up all negligent ministers 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

9 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Hmm.

Look at side of the bus and see "NCT" (Nakhonchai Tour company)

I suspect it's (another) look alike of "NCA" (Nakhonchai Air).

Thanks for clarifying there. It's very unusual for NCA to have a serious accident. And it would appear, in this case, they in fact didn't.

 

BTW, it doesn't help that somebody decided to blur out the front of the bus main identifying info on the photo of the crashed bus.

 

Edited February 26, 2018 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[simoh1490]

2 hours ago, farcanell said:

After the release of the news that Thailand has the worst road safety record in the world, I think everyone thinks Thai drivers are incompetent,  and for us here, its evidenced by the horrendously repetitive bus crash’s that we read about... much like this one... proving that a lot of drivers are incompetent.... ergo the first logical assumption (admittedly, it may be a wrong assumption... but then... worlds worst roads and all)

 

“ bus driver said his bus skidded because of the slippery road after raining.” (From link)

 

so..... sudden rain... what’s that? An embellishment to reduce culpability?

with it raining in Thailand about 30% of the time, a professional driver should never be in the position to blame it on the rain..... an incompetent driver might

Lmao.... his bias ain’t showing anywhere near as much as yours..... ????... and I didn’t even need to read his post!

Statistics you say, hmm, well let's look at those statistics and remember the article in the OP is about a bus crash:

 

The following link tells us that of the approximately 25,000 road deaths each year about 2% are attributable to heavy trucks which I've taken to include buses, I make that 500 deaths per year from bus and truck crashes 

 

Buses comprise about 15% of the total of heavy vehicles on the roads:

 

"Altogether 37,268,655 vehicles have been registered until now. These are divided into 20,289,721 motorcycles, 8,146.250 passenger cars, 6,259,806 pick-up trucks, 1,049,749 trucks and 156,089 public transport".

 

Statistically, that means 75 road deaths in Thailand are attributable to bus crashes per year.

 

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/thailand-now-has-more-than-37-million-registered-cars/

http://www.thaiwebsites.com/caraccidents.asp

 

In America however, a country with much higher quality standards in every respect and also a much larger population at 330 million people, 450% more than Thailand, there appear to be around 250 deaths each year from the same cause, broadly a similar number of deaths each year. So whilst Thailand does indeed have one of the worlds worst records for road deaths, that extends mostly to motorbikes but doesn't even come close when it comes to bus deaths! I haven't bothered to even try and look to find out what the "professional bus drivers" in America blame some of their road deaths on, surely it can't be the same thing as the "incompetent Thai bus drivers", rain! Now, you were saying about bias!

 

https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transportation/bus-crashes-united-states-what-does-research-say

https://www.fishertalwar.com/bus-accident-statistics/

[Happyman58]

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Said it before, but I will say it again- 

And why are these drivers reckless, or speeding in the first place? The primary reason is the toy police force. Nobody, and I mean nobody takes these guys seriously. There is absolutely nothing in the way of a deterrent here, and both the local governments, the central government (weak Little P.) and the police do not take traffic safety seriously. Not even one iota. The safety of the public means less than zero to the small men in charge here. Nothing. They show that on a daily basis.

 

They will not do a thing. Why? They do not care about the people one iota. Not the common people. Not the average pleb. No way. Never have cared, and may never care in the future. Also, there is not enough money in it. It is all about protecting the elite, the super wealthy, those that are connected, and those in power. The rest of the population? They do not matter. The ex-pat community does not matter. And the police will not get involved unless an accident has already occurred. There is no prevention. None. The idea of getting the police more involved, is an interesting one, and it would be an effective one. But, the issue is money. They are grossly underpaid, and until the government steps up, and spends the trillion baht on updating the police equipment, and paying each cop a living wage, it is not going to happen. Until then, they will just work the franchise. 

 

When I was growing up, we took drivers education classes. They showed us these horrendous films, of semi trucks crashing into cars, and literally obliterating them, and everything inside. Also, they showed very graphic images of head on collisions. Even as a young kid, it left a lasting impression, and I realized driving was no joking matter. Especially when you have your friends, or loved ones in the car with you. I am constantly astonished at the kinds of chances people take here, with their entire family in the car with them. Why? What is the logic? What is the reason? Why take those risks? Often, when someone cuts onto the highway in front of me, as I am doing 100kpm or more on the highway, I look in my rearview mirror, and there is nobody behind me for quite some distance. Which means, had they paused, and waited 2 or 3 seconds, there would have been zero risk to them, their family, or me and my family. What can one even say? All of this matters even more when driving a motorbike, where there is no protection. 

 

The only way to survive here on the road, is to be patient, have eyes in the back of your head, drive with caution, and always, and I mean always watch out of the other guy. Chances are, he does not have much driving skill, nor patience, nor reason, nor common sense. You cannot be too careful on the road here. Especially considering that the toy police offer no traffic safety, nor enforcement of the law. 

All the checkpoints do is clog traffic on the highways, and put alot of cash into the pockets of the toy police. It is all about catching people performing moving violations. That is what causes most accidents. And herein lies the deterrent. As long as everyone is allowed to get away with extremely reckless driving, entering the highway in front of an oncoming vehicle that is only 100 meters away, going 100kph, cutting in front of vehicles within one meter at high speeds, swerving like crazy idiots all over the highway, trucks and 40 year old cars occupying the fast lane doing 40kph, when other vehicles are approaching doing 120kph, drunk driving, etc, accidents, major injuries and deaths will continue to happen, and no amount of rhetoric and platitudes by the fabulously incompetent and insincere authorities are going to make any difference. 

 

Real men do what is necessary to save lives. Kids and highly underdeveloped people make promises, tell lies and engage in deflection.

 

Little P.  - Moving Thailand backwards at a breath taking, alarming, and astonishing pace. 

 

Mike everything you say is spot on In ubon last night we had a horrific accident Head On I did not see  but by the number of ambulances and  other services rushing past us it was big. I only hear later it was a head on crash. But i only blame one people for what is happening in Thailand. THE POLICE   After 6 its idiot time here in Ubon when all the idiots come onto the road speeding, racing each other, doing wheel stands on bikes at speed noisy mufflers, and there is not a cop in sight. Its like the bloody wild west show. One car that came past partners shop was going so fast i just shit myself at what speed he was doing.

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, Happyman58 said:

Mike everything you say is spot on In ubon last night we had a horrific accident Head On I did not see  but by the number of ambulances and  other services rushing past us it was big. I only hear later it was a head on crash. But i only blame one people for what is happening in Thailand. THE POLICE   After 6 its idiot time here in Ubon when all the idiots come onto the road speeding, racing each other, doing wheel stands on bikes at speed noisy mufflers, and there is not a cop in sight. Its like the bloody wild west show. One car that came past partners shop was going so fast i just shit myself at what speed he was doing.

 

The police only show up after the accident takes place. There is nothing in the way of traffic safety on the roads, or on the highways. Those traffic stops are all about weapons, drugs and handouts. Nothing to do with safety. I suppose there is no money in traffic safety. However, if they levied real fines for speeding over 120kph, for reckless driving, making severely quick lane changes, etc, there would be some money to be made, and the highways would be safer. 

 

Just a few days ago, I was driving along at about 110kph, on a good, straight stretch of highway. A safe speed. And some joker cuts in front of me with his pickup truck. Within two meters in front of me, then slams on his brakes. I guess he never stopped to look at the lane he was cutting into to see that there was no room for him! I slammed on my brakes to avoid the numnut, and barely missed him. Would have been a horrific crash. Why? What was the point of him changing lanes? Why didn't he look first? Who changes lanes without looking first, when they are doing over 100 kph? Why so little regard for his wife, and for others? Where does that mentality come from? Why do Thais seem so polite, yet when they get into a car, everything they have ever learned in life goes right out the window? Why so little in the way of common sense, reason, and the ability to be careful and maintain some vision? Why such idiocy? The apparent lack of skill and peripheral awareness on the road here is very scary.

Edited February 27, 2018 by spidermike007

[spidermike007]

8 hours ago, farcanell said:

Lol... nice post.... after my previous, I figured it only fair to read it

 

and... I’ve said it before...... the minister for police should be held accountable for the national embarrassment that is Thai road safety, and is negligent in office, to allow this to not only continue, but worsen

 

Lock up one minister for negligence... lock up all negligent ministers 

What you are stating is impossible. The police are never held responsible for anything. When a former head of the national police can get away with "borrowing" 300 million baht, anything goes. Only ex officers, or ex politicians, or ex army officers are ever held responsible for anything. Never current. Never. And if and when the former officers are charged, they rarely ever pay the price for it. It is a completely rigged system. Nobody is ever held accountable. 

[Happyman58]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

The police only show up after the accident takes place. There is nothing in the way of traffic safety on the roads, or on the highways. Those traffic stops are all about weapons, drugs and handouts. Nothing to do with safety. I suppose there is no money in traffic safety. However, if they levied real fines for speeding over 120kph, for reckless driving, making severely quick lane changes, etc, there would be some money to be made, and the highways would be safer. 

 

Just a few days ago, I was driving along at about 110kph, on a good, straight stretch of highway. A safe speed. And some joker cuts in front of me with his pickup truck. Within two meters in front of me, then slams on his brakes. I guess he never stopped to look at the lane he was cutting into to see that there was no room for him! I slammed on my brakes to avoid the numnut, and barely missed him. Would have been a horrific crash. Why? What was the point of him changing lanes? Why didn't he look first? Who changes lanes without looking first, when they are doing over 100 kph? Why so little regard for his wife, and for others? Where does that mentality come from? Why do Thais seem so polite, yet when they get into a car, everything they have ever learned in life goes right out the window? Why so little in the way of common sense, reason, and the ability to be careful and maintain some vision? Why such idiocy? The apparent lack of skill and peripheral awareness on the road here is very scary.

Guess we can call them Dr Jekyall and Mr Hyde Something must just snap in their head and they do it? Yeah why did he change lanes? He probably dont know  himself or has been watching to much Starsky and Hutch on Tv General Lee does that so can  I

[manicmike68]

I was going to take NCA from Rayong to Chiang Mai but now I am seriously having second thoughts since these two companies are owned by the same company and their safety rating is bad.

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[ubonjoe]

28 minutes ago, manicmike68 said:

I was going to take NCA from Rayong to Chiang Mai but now I am seriously having second thoughts since these two companies are owned by the same company and their safety rating is bad.

Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

I am not sure that NCA is the owner. I did a little digging and found nothing to confirm they do own it.

[farcanell]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

What you are stating is impossible. The police are never held responsible for anything. When a former head of the national police can get away with "borrowing" 300 million baht, anything goes. Only ex officers, or ex politicians, or ex army officers are ever held responsible for anything. Never current. Never. And if and when the former officers are charged, they rarely ever pay the price for it. It is a completely rigged system. Nobody is ever held accountable. 

Much like the persecution of past officials, I’m more than happy to wait until these numpties become ex numpties, before attempting to jail them for negligence ( and it will be interesting to see how the amnesty goes for the junta).... Thailand won’t be hurried into the first world, but seeing belated justice, may minimize others excesses tween now and then

 

that said... I agree 100% with your posting.... it’s a pity that it’s a sham.... it’s a pity that they can’t see that by being more proactive, they could be less reactive... 

[metisdead]

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