Arsenal

[Chicog]

Higuain is off to Napoli. Seems this dithering is spreading across North London......

Says who?

[mjj]

A few dodgy sources and It seems Corriere Dello Sporto are 'ITK'. Reporting just personal terms to be finalised.

[rijit]

They can have Suarez...for 55Mil... which is a snip considering Bale is 80Mil.

I don't get this. They keep talking about Suarez having a 40m release contract. Rodgers seems to think he can get 55m for him. Not unless there is an auction mate.

From what i understand, the release clause sometimes isnt actually what it says, from what i understand it can be more a 'talk clause', by offering the said figure gives them 'the right' to talk to the contracted player , the club, although it seems they generally accept the offer , still have the right 2 say no.. that's my understanding of them, but i suppose its all individually down to the wording in each contract

Edited July 21, 2013 by rijit

[jellydog]

A few dodgy sources and It seems Corriere Dello Sporto are 'ITK'. Reporting just personal terms to be finalised.

Ancelotti says Higuain is going nowhere. Rumors, rumors and more rumors.

[SantiSuk]

"Going nowhere" invariably means "going nowhere at the currently offered prices" in transfer-speak.

Where did you create the fact that Arsene was going to spend 100 mil from Smokie? Catching the summer journalist invention bug? "T'was always 60 something ish mil.

If prices get really silly then it would not surprise me if Kroenke decides not to spend the big money on a forward (and who can blame him - he missed the boat by being too conservative last summer), which would then probably and ultimately trigger a bid from the "silly money men" (we have our Russian in the wings).

[smokie36]

"Going nowhere" invariably means "going nowhere at the currently offered prices" in transfer-speak.

Where did you create the fact that Arsene was going to spend 100 mil from Smokie? Catching the summer journalist invention bug? "T'was always 60 something ish mil.

If prices get really silly then it would not surprise me if Kroenke decides not to spend the big money on a forward (and who can blame him - he missed the boat by being too conservative last summer), which would then probably and ultimately trigger a bid from the "silly money men" (we have our Russian in the wings).

The difference last season was goals scored....if you want to win things then ya gotta do what Citeh have done.

You have no bite up front Santi....and long may you continue to wag yer tail cos for sure you lot have no bark.

[Chicog]

"Going nowhere" invariably means "going nowhere at the currently offered prices" in transfer-speak.

Where did you create the fact that Arsene was going to spend 100 mil from Smokie? Catching the summer journalist invention bug? "T'was always 60 something ish mil.

If prices get really silly then it would not surprise me if Kroenke decides not to spend the big money on a forward (and who can blame him - he missed the boat by being too conservative last summer), which would then probably and ultimately trigger a bid from the "silly money men" (we have our Russian in the wings).

Really? What Russian is that?

[smokie36]

I see you chumps have failed to sign anyone at all.

How's your captain by the way?

[SantiSuk]

"Going nowhere" invariably means "going nowhere at the currently offered prices" in transfer-speak.

Where did you create the fact that Arsene was going to spend 100 mil from Smokie? Catching the summer journalist invention bug? "T'was always 60 something ish mil.

If prices get really silly then it would not surprise me if Kroenke decides not to spend the big money on a forward (and who can blame him - he missed the boat by being too conservative last summer), which would then probably and ultimately trigger a bid from the "silly money men" (we have our Russian in the wings).

Really? What Russian is that?

Alisher Usmanov

[MrRed]

"Going nowhere" invariably means "going nowhere at the currently offered prices" in transfer-speak.

Where did you create the fact that Arsene was going to spend 100 mil from Smokie? Catching the summer journalist invention bug? "T'was always 60 something ish mil.

If prices get really silly then it would not surprise me if Kroenke decides not to spend the big money on a forward (and who can blame him - he missed the boat by being too conservative last summer), which would then probably and ultimately trigger a bid from the "silly money men" (we have our Russian in the wings).

The difference last season was goals scored....if you want to win things then ya gotta do what Citeh have done.

You have no bite up front Santi....and long may you continue to wag yer tail cos for sure you lot have no bark.

Surely you mean what United have done(RVP)....City have just bought a few players and have a new manager they actually have not performed together yet and won anything!! and nothing is guaranteed is it mate.

Good teams win the League that means in all departments this year both City and Chelsea afaik have not strengthened at the back.

[Chicog]

Really? What Russian is that?

Alisher Usmanov

He's not Russian.

[SantiSuk]

Really? What Russian is that?

Alisher Usmanov

He's not Russian.

?? Uzbekistan was Russian when he was born. Wikipedia leads with "Alisher Burkhanovich Usmanov (Uzbek: Alisher Usmonov, Алишер Бурханович Усмонов) (born 9 September 1953) is an Uzbek-born Russian business magnate".

You seem determined to pick an argument with me over everything I post. My guess is you were bullied at school.

[SantiSuk]

I see you chumps have failed to sign anyone at all.

How's your captain by the way?

I see your manager has not rushed to deny rumours in the Spanish press that he is actively seeking the Barca job. How many of your precious heros will he take with him if he gets it?

Edited July 22, 2013 by SantiSuk

[Chicog]

Really? What Russian is that?

Alisher Usmanov

He's not Russian.

?? Uzbekistan was Russian when he was born. Wikipedia leads with "Alisher Burkhanovich Usmanov (Uzbek: Alisher Usmonov, Алишер Бурханович Усмонов) (born 9 September 1953) is an Uzbek-born Russian business magnate".

You seem determined to pick an argument with me over everything I post. My guess is you were bullied at school.

Yes, he's Uzbeki. And I don't pick fights with you. I criticise you because you're obviously retarded and don't know it.

[Chicog]

I see you chumps have failed to sign anyone at all.

How's your captain by the way?

Starting early I see. Which is probably appropriate, what with the early game and all.

[SantiSuk]

You are right there Chicog. I am blissfully unaware that I am retarded.

Feels great to be a retard in my world

[smokie36]

Aww bless....yer my favourite retards....more than the Wet Spam.

[SantiSuk]

Koscielny reportedly limped out of training in Asia (a big place!). No reports yet on how serious. Only one fit CB plus Djouro (expletive deleted) if serious - yikes.

[rijit]

"Going nowhere" invariably means "going nowhere at the currently offered prices" in transfer-speak.

Where did you create the fact that Arsene was going to spend 100 mil from Smokie? Catching the summer journalist invention bug? "T'was always 60 something ish mil.

If prices get really silly then it would not surprise me if Kroenke decides not to spend the big money on a forward (and who can blame him - he missed the boat by being too conservative last summer), which would then probably and ultimately trigger a bid from the "silly money men" (we have our Russian in the wings).

The difference last season was goals scored....if you want to win things then ya gotta do what Citeh have done.

You have no bite up front Santi....and long may you continue to wag yer tail cos for sure you lot have no bark.

Really? Arsenal scored more goals than city last season , what gained city 2nd place was their frugal defence.

[smokie36]

"Going nowhere" invariably means "going nowhere at the currently offered prices" in transfer-speak.

Where did you create the fact that Arsene was going to spend 100 mil from Smokie? Catching the summer journalist invention bug? "T'was always 60 something ish mil.

If prices get really silly then it would not surprise me if Kroenke decides not to spend the big money on a forward (and who can blame him - he missed the boat by being too conservative last summer), which would then probably and ultimately trigger a bid from the "silly money men" (we have our Russian in the wings).

The difference last season was goals scored....if you want to win things then ya gotta do what Citeh have done.

You have no bite up front Santi....and long may you continue to wag yer tail cos for sure you lot have no bark.

Really? Arsenal scored more goals than city last season , what gained city 2nd place was their frugal defence.

Yes le arse are great at scoring against the bottom three.

[rijit]

"Going nowhere" invariably means "going nowhere at the currently offered prices" in transfer-speak.

Where did you create the fact that Arsene was going to spend 100 mil from Smokie? Catching the summer journalist invention bug? "T'was always 60 something ish mil.

If prices get really silly then it would not surprise me if Kroenke decides not to spend the big money on a forward (and who can blame him - he missed the boat by being too conservative last summer), which would then probably and ultimately trigger a bid from the "silly money men" (we have our Russian in the wings).

The difference last season was goals scored....if you want to win things then ya gotta do what Citeh have done.

You have no bite up front Santi....and long may you continue to wag yer tail cos for sure you lot have no bark.

Really? Arsenal scored more goals than city last season , what gained city 2nd place was their frugal defence.

Yes le arse are great at scoring against the bottom three.

yeah you could be right smokes, if you forget the 6 they put past us and the 4 thy put past Liverpool. but point taken they whopped some pretty out of salts opposition last season

[BangrakBob]

They can have Suarez...for 55Mil... which is a snip considering Bale is 80Mil.

I don't get this. They keep talking about Suarez having a 40m release contract. Rodgers seems to think he can get 55m for him. Not unless there is an auction mate.

Meeting a 40M release clause doesn't mean we have to sell him for that, just that he can have a chin wag with the bidder.

You are wrong there mate. Sorry to say it.....

Not so sure Smokes, I guess each contract is going to have its own terms and conditions relating to release or buy-out clauses. The said amount could just be a guarantee for the selling team, it could also have sub-conditions to it that need to be met also. I doubt most clubs with prize players contracts would leave themselves in a position where they can do nothing except hand the player his loyalty bonus and dry their tears as he rides of into the sunset on a bag of money to their arch enemy.

Anyway in the case of the gobsh*te in question their must be fine print conditions. There was some confusion with the first Arse bid as to what his position was. One of those conditions would be a transfer request. maybe just wishful thinking on my behalf.

[BangrakBob]

They can have Suarez...for 55Mil... which is a snip considering Bale is 80Mil.

I don't get this. They keep talking about Suarez having a 40m release contract. Rodgers seems to think he can get 55m for him. Not unless there is an auction mate.

Meeting a 40M release clause doesn't mean we have to sell him for that, just that he can have a chin wag with the bidder.

In that case it would have been called a "Chinwag clause", wouldn't it?

Anyway, don't fret, even if Wenger wants to pay that sort of money, Silent Stan might have something to say about it.

yeah your record fee is £15 for Arshavin isn't it? sods law you will break the bank at our expense

[Chicog]

Anyway in the case of the gobsh*te in question their must be fine print conditions. There was some confusion with the first Arse bid as to what his position was. One of those conditions would be a transfer request. maybe just wishful thinking on my behalf.

A release clause precludes the need for a transfer request. It automatically allows the player to discuss terms with the bidding club.

However, I'm not satisfied that either (a) there is such a clause or ( that Arsenal would meet it.

There's been so much <deleted> printed in the last few weeks, I've lost the will to care.

[BangrakBob]

Anyway in the case of the gobsh*te in question their must be fine print conditions. There was some confusion with the first Arse bid as to what his position was. One of those conditions would be a transfer request. maybe just wishful thinking on my behalf.

A release clause precludes the need for a transfer request. It automatically allows the player to discuss terms with the bidding club.

However, I'm not satisfied that either (a) there is such a clause or ( that Arsenal would meet it.

There's been so much <deleted> printed in the last few weeks, I've lost the will to care.

Yeah BR has been pretty adamant that LFC are in control and using language to suggest there is no such clause, there has never been any evidence of a clause. They way he is talking also sounds like he is making the "not for sale at any cost stance" to make sure we get premium coin for him. i just hope it doesn't drag on and we get left with a bag of cash and no time to spend it.

I'd have to agree this window must have the record amount of <deleted> and bumfluffery of any window in history

[BangrakBob]

Anyway in the case of the gobsh*te in question their must be fine print conditions. There was some confusion with the first Arse bid as to what his position was. One of those conditions would be a transfer request. maybe just wishful thinking on my behalf.

A release clause precludes the need for a transfer request. It automatically allows the player to discuss terms with the bidding club.

However, I'm not satisfied that either (a) there is such a clause or ( that Arsenal would meet it.

There's been so much <deleted> printed in the last few weeks, I've lost the will to care.

Yeah BR has been pretty adamant that LFC are in control and using language to suggest there is no such clause, there has never been any evidence of a clause. They way he is talking also sounds like he is making the "not for sale at any cost stance" to make sure we get premium coin for him. i just hope it doesn't drag on and we get left with a bag of cash and no time to spend it.

I'd have to agree this window must have the record amount of <deleted> and bumfluffery of any window in history

[Chicog]

I read an interesting article the other day. It talks about how the traditional print media are in the shit, and were hoping that online ad revenue would fill the gap left by people who prefer to read their news online instead of getting their fingers dirty.

Trouble is, on the net they have a whole heap of competition from all manner of sites, so if their competitor gets a story that draws all the readers in, they now write their own story based on a tagline of "According to....", or they come up with a complete load of <deleted> (e.g. Atletico talking to Cazorla).

So basically you can't trust anyone to be telling the truth now. Unless there is a direct quote from a named party involved, you might as well assume it's all bullshit.

[smokie36]

Add to this the blogging ITK <deleted> which is all about ad clicks and making a few bob....in some cases serious silent collection.

Its all <deleted>....christ...the only sense today being spouted on this thread!

[rijit]

Wengers up ing the anti

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23428419

Bearing in mind his board have been saying for 2? years 'there's plenty of money to spend if wenger wishes, seems he really thinks now is a good time to b stepping things up. And tbh I make him right.

[SantiSuk]

I don't think he is worth more than 40m. The last bite knocked 10m off his worth IMO

Someone will put up at least another 5 though. Maybe Arsene is getting frustrated enough to be the one.

Edited July 24, 2013 by SantiSuk