webfact Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Dutchman nabbed with three underaged boys and sex videos in Pattaya By Thai PBS A 69-year old Dutchman and a 19-year old Thai man were arrested at a hotel in Pattaya on charges of procuring underaged boys for prostitution on Sunday. Three underaged boys were also found in the Jom Thien Longstay hotel room on Jom Thien beach which was rented by two potential customers to lure the Dutchman, identified as Joseph Marie Rienards, to bring them for sex trade. Police also found in the possession of the suspect still pictures and videos of the boys in the act of sexual activities in the Dutchman’s rented room. The Dutchman’s arrest on Sunday was the result of a sting operation launched by Pattaya police with the cooperation of two foreigners posing as potential customers looking for sex with young Thai boys after investigation by the police and officials of the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/dutchman-nabbed-three-underaged-boys-sex-videos-pattaya/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-03-05 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted March 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2018 Another horrible, dirty, paedophile bastard. At least, hopefully, he won't have the comfort of a European prison, and will die in squalor, if convicted. 30 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post saakura Posted March 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? Edited March 4, 2018 by saakura 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mountain Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, saakura said: Why are they mostly caught in Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? Easy to find lowlife, out of money, snitches in Pattaya. How old are those boy hookers I would like to know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LukKruengDam Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, saakura said: Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? Why do they all come mostly from Europe, is there something in Pattaya that attracts Europeans? 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sniper Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, Jack Mountain said: Easy to find lowlife, out of money, snitches in Pattaya. How old are those boy hookers I would like to know. You sound like a sympatiser of this Dutchman 8 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 Gee, i hope this will not ruin Pattaya's image in the eyes of the world.... 2 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkcanuck8 Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, Jack Mountain said: Easy to find lowlife, out of money, snitches in Pattaya. How old are those boy hookers I would like to know. It said all you need to know... they were underage... Underage is underage... period... It is an international agreement with regards to underage prostitution, child pornography etc. The convention, which currently has 174 nations as signatories, states the minimum age is 18. The issue is not just a problem in Pattaya, it is an issue in every major city in the west... it is just that because Pattaya is the sex capital, local low life (and foreign low life) will try to cater to all appetites -- even if illegal. All I can say is: Thank you police, thank you snitch (if there is one)! 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeremy50 Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, sniper said: You sound like a sympatiser of this Dutchman Why do you say that? Were they 11/12 or 17/18? There's a huge difference in implication. The boys rented the location, sounds like they were young adults, it could easily just have been a baited trap, with the cops waiting around the corner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jack Mountain Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said: It said all you need to know... they were underage... Underage is underage... period... It is an international agreement with regards to underage prostitution, child pornography etc. The convention, which currently has 174 nations as signatories, states the minimum age is 18. The issue is not just a problem in Pattaya, it is an issue in every major city in the west... it is just that because Pattaya is the sex capital, local low life (and foreign low life) will try to cater to all appetites -- even if illegal. All I can say is: Thank you police, thank you snitch (if there is one)! If we start to see the law as a replacement for morality then we are crossing a line. Consent is the word here, haven't understood there wasn't any. That's why I want to know the age. >15? then Mind your own business. 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkcanuck8 Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Jack Mountain said: If we start to see the law as a replacement for morality then we are crossing a line. Consent is the word here, haven't understood there wasn't any. That's why I want to know the age. >15? then Mind your own business. When it comes to underage (and that age is 18 when prostitution is involved) then legally the boy/girl CANNOT give consent (as per the law). 4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Why was the Dutchman not named ?,not another one bailed and on his way. regards worgeordie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said: When it comes to underage (and that age is 18 when prostitution is involved) then legally the boy/girl CANNOT give consent (as per the law). Incorrect! If the boy/girl is aged 15 and above they can lawfully consent to sex. It is only if there is a financial incentive for performing the act, that it becomes illegal. So 15, 16 and 17 year olds can engage in sex as long as they are not being paid for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somebodee Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, saakura said: Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Thaiwrath said: Another horrible, dirty, paedophile bastard. At least, hopefully, he won't have the comfort of a European prison, and will die in squalor, if convicted. A 19 year old is considered underage to work in the bars. As no ages are given one shouldn't speculate. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, saakura said: Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? He came from Cambodia into Thailand by bribing a customs officer i read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkcanuck8 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Incorrect! If the boy/girl is aged 15 and above they can lawfully consent to sex. It is only if there is a financial incentive for performing the act, that it becomes illegal. So 15, 16 and 17 year olds can engage in sex as long as they are not being paid for it. Quote When it comes to underage (and that age is 18 when prostitution is involved) then legally the boy/girl CANNOT give consent (as per the law). Did you actually read what you were replying to? paid = prostitution - you said I was wrong, then you stated basically the same thing... I just did not indicate what the age of consent was when remuneration is not involved (which is irrelevant to this conversation). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, LukKruengDam said: Why do they all come mostly from Europe, is there something in Pattaya that attracts Europeans? That is where it is on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, saakura said: Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? They mostly go to Cambodia but don't let that stop you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Mr.Tip of the iceberg, flying Dutchman. Meanwhile, somewhere in the US, child marriage is legal, i.e. some old fart can marry a 13-year-old with the parents' consent.... Edited March 5, 2018 by AlQaholic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgma Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 If found guilty in a Thai court of law, keep him in a Thai jail, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, worgeordie said: Why was the Dutchman not named ?,not another one bailed and on his way. regards worgeordie identified as Joseph Marie Rienards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, saakura said: Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? Creepy city that attracts such people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 56 minutes ago, Jeremy50 said: Why do you say that? Were they 11/12 or 17/18? There's a huge difference in implication. The boys rented the location, sounds like they were young adults, it could easily just have been a baited trap, with the cops waiting around the corner. I doubt that "young adult" is a legally recognized definition of the age of consent. Whether they be 11/12 or 17/18, it is ALL totally illegal. You sound like your searching for some indication of consent by the victims to be illegally, sexually violated here. I am pretty sure that's not how you intended to sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, hyku1147 said: Three underaged boys were also found in the Jom Thien Longstay hotel room on Jom Thien beach which was rented by two potential customers to lure the Dutchman, identified as Joseph Marie Rienards, to bring them for sex trade. Again I will say no ages are given. As for "to bring them for sex trade" this can just mean; to have sex. This was a police set up so we'll just have to wait and see. Would the police use children to "lure" the Dutchman into the sting operation? Maybe the BIB have been watching this guy or maybe it's another case of Pattaya BIB extortion. The fact is, from the report, we don't know. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, NanLaew said: I doubt that "young adult" is a legally recognized definition of the age of consent. Whether they be 11/12 or 17/18, it is ALL totally illegal. You sound like your searching for some indication of consent by the victims to be illegally, sexually violated here. I am pretty sure that's not how you intended to sound. Are you really saying that having sex with an 18 year old is illegal? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian guy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, saakura said: Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? For the same reason most shoppers would rather go to a huge and cheap department store rather than a small and expensive local shop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anon789561 Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 some on this thread almost defending this guy. he was caught going to procure sex with underage age boys, end of. that not enough? they found pictures of the scum performing sex acts with underage boys in his rented room. some people on this forum do make me wonder 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian guy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, sniper said: You sound like a sympatiser of this Dutchman I don't know what lead you to this conclusion... I would be more careful with these sorts of accusations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 UPDATE: "I bribed immigration 3,000 baht to get into Thailand", says arrested Dutch child abuser Picture: Sanook The Netherlands man arrested in Jomtien on Sunday for abusing little boys has told Chonburi cops that he bribed a border official. Full story: https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1027670-i-bribed-immigration-3000-baht-to-get-into-thailand-says-arrested-dutch-child-abuser/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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