Dutchman nabbed with three underaged boys and sex videos in Pattaya

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Dutchman nabbed with three underaged boys and sex videos in Pattaya

By Thai PBS

 

 

A 69-year old Dutchman and a 19-year old Thai man were arrested at a hotel in Pattaya on charges of procuring underaged boys for prostitution on Sunday.

 

Three underaged boys were also found in the Jom Thien Longstay hotel room on Jom Thien beach which was rented by two potential customers to lure the Dutchman, identified as Joseph Marie Rienards, to bring them for sex trade.

Police also found in the possession of the suspect still pictures and videos of the boys in the act of sexual activities in the Dutchman’s rented room.

 

The Dutchman’s arrest on Sunday was the result of a sting operation launched by Pattaya police with the cooperation of two foreigners posing as potential customers looking for sex with young Thai boys after investigation by the police and officials of the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/dutchman-nabbed-three-underaged-boys-sex-videos-pattaya/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-03-05

 

[Thaiwrath]

Another horrible, dirty, paedophile bastard.

At least, hopefully, he won't have the comfort of a European prison, and will die in squalor, if convicted.

[saakura]

Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 

Edited March 4, 2018 by saakura

[Jack Mountain]

1 minute ago, saakura said:

Why are they mostly caught in Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 

Easy to find lowlife, out of money, snitches in Pattaya.

How old are those boy hookers I would like to know.

[LukKruengDam]

43 minutes ago, saakura said:

Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 

Why do they all come mostly from Europe, is there something in Pattaya that attracts Europeans?

[sniper]

43 minutes ago, Jack Mountain said:

Easy to find lowlife, out of money, snitches in Pattaya.

How old are those boy hookers I would like to know.

You sound like a sympatiser of this Dutchman

[ezzra]

Gee, i hope this will not ruin Pattaya's image in the eyes of the world....

[bkkcanuck8]

48 minutes ago, Jack Mountain said:

Easy to find lowlife, out of money, snitches in Pattaya.

How old are those boy hookers I would like to know.

It said all you need to know... they were underage... Underage is underage... period...  It is an international agreement with regards to underage prostitution, child pornography etc.  The convention, which currently has 174 nations as signatories, states the minimum age is 18.  The issue is not just a problem in Pattaya, it is an issue in every major city in the west... it is just that because Pattaya is the sex capital, local low life (and foreign low life) will try to cater to all appetites -- even if illegal.  All I can say is:  Thank you police, thank you snitch (if there is one)!

[Jeremy50]

7 minutes ago, sniper said:

You sound like a sympatiser of this Dutchman

Why do you say that? Were they 11/12 or 17/18? There's a huge difference in implication. The boys rented the location, sounds like they were young adults, it could easily just have been a baited trap, with the cops waiting around the corner.

[Jack Mountain]

3 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

It said all you need to know... they were underage... Underage is underage... period...  It is an international agreement with regards to underage prostitution, child pornography etc.  The convention, which currently has 174 nations as signatories, states the minimum age is 18.  The issue is not just a problem in Pattaya, it is an issue in every major city in the west... it is just that because Pattaya is the sex capital, local low life (and foreign low life) will try to cater to all appetites -- even if illegal.  All I can say is:  Thank you police, thank you snitch (if there is one)!

If we start to see the law as a replacement for morality then we are crossing a line. Consent is the word here, haven't understood there wasn't any. That's why I want to know the age. >15? then Mind your own business.

[bkkcanuck8]

1 minute ago, Jack Mountain said:

If we start to see the law as a replacement for morality then we are crossing a line. Consent is the word here, haven't understood there wasn't any. That's why I want to know the age. >15? then Mind your own business.

When it comes to underage (and that age is 18 when prostitution is involved) then legally the boy/girl CANNOT give consent (as per the law). 

[worgeordie]

Why was the Dutchman not named ?,not another one bailed

and on his way.

regards worgeordie

[darksidedog]

4 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

When it comes to underage (and that age is 18 when prostitution is involved) then legally the boy/girl CANNOT give consent (as per the law). 

Incorrect! If the boy/girl is aged 15 and above they can lawfully consent to sex. It is only if there is a financial incentive for performing the act, that it becomes illegal. So 15, 16 and 17 year olds can engage in sex as long as they are not being paid for it.

[Somebodee]

1 hour ago, saakura said:

Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 

 

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Thaiwrath said:

Another horrible, dirty, paedophile bastard.

At least, hopefully, he won't have the comfort of a European prison, and will die in squalor, if convicted.

A 19 year old is considered underage to work in the bars. As no ages are given one shouldn't speculate.

[Thian]

1 hour ago, saakura said:

Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 

He came from Cambodia into Thailand by bribing a customs officer i read.

[bkkcanuck8]

13 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

Incorrect! If the boy/girl is aged 15 and above they can lawfully consent to sex. It is only if there is a financial incentive for performing the act, that it becomes illegal. So 15, 16 and 17 year olds can engage in sex as long as they are not being paid for it.

 

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When it comes to underage (and that age is 18 when prostitution is involved) then legally the boy/girl CANNOT give consent (as per the law). 

 

Did you actually read what you were replying to?  paid = prostitution - you said I was wrong, then you stated basically the same thing... I just did not indicate what the age of consent was when remuneration is not involved (which is irrelevant to this conversation).

[hansnl]

47 minutes ago, LukKruengDam said:

Why do they all come mostly from Europe, is there something in Pattaya that attracts Europeans?

That is where it is on offer.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, saakura said:

Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 

They mostly go to Cambodia but don't let that stop you.

[AlQaholic]

Mr.Tip of the iceberg, flying Dutchman. Meanwhile, somewhere in the US, child marriage is legal, i.e. some old fart can marry a 13-year-old with the parents' consent....

Edited March 5, 2018 by AlQaholic

[hgma]

If found guilty in a Thai court of law, keep him in a Thai jail,

[Justfine]

43 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Why was the Dutchman not named ?,not another one bailed

and on his way.

regards worgeordie

identified as Joseph Marie Rienards

[Justfine]

1 hour ago, saakura said:

Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 

Creepy city that attracts such people

[NanLaew]

56 minutes ago, Jeremy50 said:

Why do you say that? Were they 11/12 or 17/18? There's a huge difference in implication. The boys rented the location, sounds like they were young adults, it could easily just have been a baited trap, with the cops waiting around the corner.

I doubt that "young adult" is a legally recognized definition of the age of consent. Whether they be 11/12 or 17/18, it is ALL totally illegal. You sound like your searching for some indication of consent by the victims to be illegally, sexually violated here. I am pretty sure that's not how you intended to sound.

[dinsdale]

Just now, hyku1147 said:

Three underaged boys were also found in the Jom Thien Longstay hotel room on Jom Thien beach which was rented by two potential customers to lure the Dutchman, identified as Joseph Marie Rienards, to bring them for sex trade.

Again I will say no ages are given. As for "to bring them for sex trade" this can just mean; to have sex. This was a police set up so we'll just have to wait and see. Would the police use children to "lure" the Dutchman into the sting operation? Maybe the BIB have been watching this guy or maybe it's another case of Pattaya BIB extortion. The fact is, from the report, we don't know.

[dinsdale]

Just now, NanLaew said:

I doubt that "young adult" is a legally recognized definition of the age of consent. Whether they be 11/12 or 17/18, it is ALL totally illegal. You sound like your searching for some indication of consent by the victims to be illegally, sexually violated here. I am pretty sure that's not how you intended to sound.

Are you really saying that having sex with an 18 year old is illegal?

[Italian guy]

2 hours ago, saakura said:

Why do they all come mostly to Pattaya, are the law enforcement there so slack? 

For the same reason most shoppers would rather go to a huge and cheap department store rather than a small and expensive local shop... 

[anon789561]

some on this thread almost defending this guy. he was caught going to procure sex with underage age boys, end of. that not enough? they found pictures of the scum performing sex acts with underage boys in his rented room. some people on this forum do make me wonder

[Italian guy]

1 hour ago, sniper said:

You sound like a sympatiser of this Dutchman

I don't know what lead you to this conclusion... I would be more careful with these sorts of accusations.

[webfact]

UPDATE:

 

"I bribed immigration 3,000 baht to get into Thailand", says arrested Dutch child abuser

 

Picture: Sanook

 

The Netherlands man arrested in Jomtien on Sunday for abusing little boys has told Chonburi cops that he bribed a border official.

 

Full story: https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1027670-i-bribed-immigration-3000-baht-to-get-into-thailand-says-arrested-dutch-child-abuser/