Not drinking

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, cooked said:

 I said partly. I don't know why this subforum attracts so many unpleasant people.

Drinking two small beers every two days doesn't really count as drinking, drinking a pack a day as I had in the past, is drinking.

I would say it counts as sociable drinking, and you should be commended for that.

[Krataiboy]

Sorry to inject a serious note, but this subject has arisen just a couple of days after I learned an ex-wife of mine, whom I hadn't seen for nearly two decades,  had died from alcohol addiction.It was a horrendous shock.

 

I remember her as a bright, smart and talented woman, not the pathetic physical and mental human wreck she was reduced to by a decade of heavy drinking.

 

In our heyday, we were a pair of social animals who regularly knocked back more than our fair share of intoxicating substances.  But after the split I realised where our love affair with alcohol had been leading and cut back. Unfortunately, my former partner's wife's indulgence escalated, from social to habitual and ultimately uncontrollable.

 

Her untimely demise has come as a shocking reminder of the damage done not only to individuals and society as a whole by a drug that we all kid ourselves we can easily control. The evidence to the contrary is all around us, not just in cold hard WHO figures, but harrowingly visible in our hospitals, addiction centres and on city streets roamed by with homeless alcoholics and intoxicated young binge-drinkers.

 

Enough is enough. It is time to put people before the fat profits generated by drinks companies and launch public alcohol awareness campaigns along the lines of those which, in a decade or two, turned smoking from an allegedly harmless pastime into the anti-social, dangerous addiction it really is.

 

If we did it with fags, we can do it with booze. And, for once, we will have given the next generation something to thank us for.  

 

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, AYJAYDEE said:

a bottle of beer a day is drinking

 

I think that if anyone drinks alcohol every day, they have a problem.

[AYJAYDEE]

1 minute ago, possum1931 said:

I think that if anyone drinks alcohol every day, they have a problem.

only if it causes a problem. one beer a day wont cause a physical problem.

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, dotpoom said:

"What do non drinkers feel about alcohol after a few years? Miss it? Not all at?"

    It depends obviously on so many different scenarios as to how one would answer that question...."different horses for different courses.

   I would rather die than let another drop of alcohol pass my lips...17 yrs. free from it now.

    But in itself, I think alcohol is a good "socializer" for those who can control and enjoy it, and a great way to relax ( in moderation, of course.).

    You have stopped to try to lose some weight, and good luck to you....great stuff. This might be considered a "luxuary" reason.

  It use to be that 10% of a population were addicted to alcohol (after taking into account the many people in turn that 10% affected. family, friends, bosses, fellow workers, general public)  well...a lot of people, directly or indirectly get affected by alcohol.

    My conclusion, if one can drink alcohol socially ...more luck to them....if alcohol causes a continueing problem in either your social life, work life or finincial affairs, maybe time to have a look at one's situation.

  It's a complex question...there are so many variations.

Post of the month here.

[NoshowJones]

15 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

what do you do about them?

 

What do I do about who?

[xylophone]

3 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

I may be able to address this shortly. I am told the Mont Clair 5 litre boxes will no longer be available @ 969 baht. There will be 3 litre boxes for the same price at around the same price.

Well that will stop you poisoning yourself! 

[JGV]

Just one question you need to ask Do I feel healthier? If the answer is Yes then you know the decision was correct I gave up 3 and a half years ago after drinking for 45 years No regrets I love feeling better

[NoshowJones]

10 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

only if it causes a problem. one beer a day wont cause a physical problem.

Yes, I agree with you, but anyone who is serious about not wanting to become addicted should have even just one day a week alcohol free.

[xylophone]

3 hours ago, dotpoom said:

My conclusion, if one can drink alcohol socially ...more luck to them....if alcohol causes a continueing problem in either your social life, work life or finincial affairs, maybe time to have a look at one's situation.

  It's a complex question...there are so many variations.

I concur dotpoom...........I drink 3 glasses of wine at night with dinner and enjoy them.

 

However on a once a week sortie out with friends I may have a couple of beers BUT I won't drink during the day and wonder how the guys I see sitting at bars at 11 am manage.........or indeed why they come here on holiday just to sit at a bar?

 

It is a complicated subject because as you say, there are so many variations and I have met many people in France who have worked in vineyards all their lives and who started drinking their first wine (mixed with water) at the age of five years old, and drink wine every day, and they have been in their 80s and still working in the vineyards!

 

I think your comment about, "if alcohol causes a continuing problem in either your social life, work life or financial affairs, maybe it's time to have a look at one's situation," is spot on.

[Howard]

I stopped two years ago, not because I had to but simply because it seemed a good idea. Previously I would drink if it was in the house and wouldn't if it wasn't. Enjoyed a few stiff scotches, red wine and the odd beer.\

 

Really have not missed it at all. Sometimes when things get a bit tough I feel it might be nice to have one or two but never go further than the thought. Had a nearly zero beer the other day and did not enjoy it at all. Had a sip of my wife's red recently at a dinner party and found it unpleasant.

 

So, if you want to give it up but fear you are going to miss it too much, my advice is to give it a go. You may be surprised at the outcome. As an aside I stopped smoking, 40 a day, 25 years ago and have never regretted that. Good luck.

Edited April 2, 2018 by Howard

[jenny2017]

2 hours ago, poanoi said:

yes, the food there was the thing i hated the second most,

after the mattresses

Is mattresses a synonym for girls? 

[Andrew Dwyer]

Just one question you need to ask Do I feel healthier? If the answer is Yes then you know the decision was correct I gave up 3 and a half years ago after drinking for 45 years No regrets I love feeling better

I’m with you on this !!

I stopped two years ago but had been diminishing my intake over a couple of years previously.

All through choice, in my heyday I could match the hardened drinkers on a “ bender” but I wasn’t enjoying it anymore.

Could count the number of drinks I’ve had in the last two years on both hands !

 

My gf doesn’t drink and I ride a bicycle 20km a day now, life is good !!

[Cranky]

4 hours ago, cooked said:

 I said partly. I don't know why this subforum attracts so many unpleasant people.

Drinking two small beers every two days doesn't really count as drinking, drinking a pack a day as I had in the past, is drinking.

You need a beer.

[ubonr1971]

i feel more angry now after giving up. 

[AYJAYDEE]

31 minutes ago, Cranky said:

You need a beer.

of course it does you drink it because there is alcohol in it that affects your system.

 

[ToddinChonburi]

April 1993 and have never missed it.

[Denim]

I'm on an alcohol diet.

 

 

 

 

It works !

 

 

 

 

Lost 3 days already !

[jenny2017]

     I'd basically started drinking daily when I moved to Thailand. It's usually the beers at meeting places where almost everybody goes through the daily gossip.

That's even worse when most of them are working as teachers......

 

When you hear that the gossip is about somebody who didn't make it on that day, you can be sure that you're on the list when you don't show up. 

 

   I've realized that always when I had my three big beers. there's always a reason for me to start an argument with my wife, or even with our son.

 

The topics were so breathtaking from how long does a Hercules C 130 need to take off, where the most knowledgeable guy in the drinking team was sure that 150 meters would be long enough to take off. The one guy was so proud of his 120 GB of porn on his external hard drives, who the frogg wants to discuss such things???

 

You can't argue with such people and the topics become even stranger when more alcohol is consumed.

 

 I had so many hangovers destroying my mornings that I was already used to go to work on a hangover.

 

But then I decided enough is enough and quit drinking. Well, almost. Now I'm having a good ( if possible a cold Kloster, without ice) beer, or two, but small bottles.

 

But there are times where I don't drink one drop in weeks, and that's good so. My next plan is to quit smoking, which wouldn't be possible if I would still be drinking.

 

 In my opinion, alcohol doesn't only kill the person's white cells, then the liver. It also destroys marriages, friendships and a lot more.

 

P.S. And it's got a lot to do with accidents, people who drink seem to believe that they can drive a vehicle, even when they can't stand on their own feet anymore. 

 

It's much better to wake up without a hangover. 

 

  Here's a song for those who want to stop.........

 

 

 

  

Edited April 2, 2018 by jenny2017

[Wake Up]

Ever so often I quit drinking for two weeks just to do it.  But I enjoy my beer especially Leo with ice. Life is short and IMO not worth giving up the small pleasures like beer and coffee and oral sex and boom boom sex with younger women. I eat well and drink lots of water and exercise but I don’t hope or expect to live forever. What I have given up that helps me tremendously are fear and check lists. Peace 

[jenny2017]

1 minute ago, Wake Up said:

Ever so often I quit drinking for two weeks just to do it.  But I enjoy my beer especially Leo with ice. Life is short and IMO not worth giving up the small pleasures like beer and coffee and oral sex and boom boom sex with younger women. I eat well and drink lots of water and exercise but I don’t hope or expect to live forever. What I have given up that helps me tremendously are fear and check lists. Peace 

Beer with ice is a sin!!!!

[Wake Up]

16 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

Beer with ice is a sin!!!!

Then I am a lifetime sinner.  I started drinking Leo with ice while visiting an Issan  village and now I don’t want beer without it. I love it especially when it is hot outside but I also do it when I am back in the states and in air con.  Do what makes you happy and forget about what society or expats or who ever tell you things you must or must not do. Peace 

Edited April 2, 2018 by Wake Up

[jenny2017]

12 minutes ago, Wake Up said:

Then I am a lifetime sinner.  I started drinking Leo with ice while visiting an Issan  village and now I don’t want beer without it. I love it especially when it is hot outside but I also do it when I am back in the states and in air con.  Do what makes you happy and forget about what society or expats or who ever tell you things you must or must not do. Peace 

As a German citizen, I think they'd kill me if I'd put ice in my beer sitting in a beer garden in Munich. But on the other side, I haven't been back for eight years.

 

 But please try a real cold Leo first with, then without ice. There's already too much water in beer anyway. 

Edited April 2, 2018 by jenny2017
Offering a lot of Peace

[jenny2017]

1 hour ago, Wake Up said:

Then I am a lifetime sinner.  I started drinking Leo with ice while visiting an Issan  village and now I don’t want beer without it. I love it especially when it is hot outside but I also do it when I am back in the states and in air con.  Do what makes you happy and forget about what society or expats or who ever tell you things you must or must not do. Peace 

One of my hobbies is being an RC priest. I forgive you your sins if you send 20 K on my GFM page....

[Krataiboy]

2 hours ago, jenny2017 said:

Beer with ice is a sin!!!!

You surely mean ice with beer is a sin.

[Krataiboy]

5 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Sorry to inject a serious note, but this subject has arisen just a couple of days after I learned an ex-wife of mine, whom I hadn't seen for nearly two decades,  had died from alcohol addiction.It was a horrendous shock.

 

I remember her as a bright, smart and talented woman, not the pathetic physical and mental human wreck she was reduced to by a decade of heavy drinking.

 

In our heyday, we were a pair of social animals who regularly knocked back more than our fair share of intoxicating substances.  But after the split I realised where our love affair with alcohol had been leading and cut back. Unfortunately, my former partner's wife's indulgence escalated, from social to habitual and ultimately uncontrollable.

 

Her untimely demise has come as a shocking reminder of the damage done not only to individuals and society as a whole by a drug that we all kid ourselves we can easily control. The evidence to the contrary is all around us, not just in cold hard WHO figures, but harrowingly visible in our hospitals, addiction centres and on city streets roamed by with homeless alcoholics and intoxicated young binge-drinkers.

 

Enough is enough. It is time to put people before the fat profits generated by drinks companies and launch public alcohol awareness campaigns along the lines of those which, in a decade or two, turned smoking from an allegedly harmless pastime into the anti-social, dangerous addiction it really is.

 

If we did it with fags, we can do it with booze. And, for once, we will have given the next generation something to thank us for.  

 

Just come across this in a report on the rape of a young girl by a bunch of teenage boys. Need I say more?

 

In a 2016 study by Thai Health Promotion Foundation researcher Dr Orathai Waleewong has cited interviews with juveniles in detention facilities, reporting that 40.8 per cent of them claimed to commit crimes within five hours of alcohol consumption.

 

The study also cited crimes committed by juveniles reportedly under the influence of alcohol: 55.9 per cent of offences against life and liberty, 46.2 per cent of rapes and sexual assaults, 41.4 per cent of weapon and explosive offences, 35.3 per cent of thefts, 31.3 per cent of social disturbances and 29.2 per cent of the drug offences. 

 

[GTgrizzly]

11 hours ago, colinneil said:

Calm down mate, nobodies being unpleasant, look you will see i posted a laughing emoji, so just joking.

Some very sensitive creatures on here it seems Colin 

Maybe he should try drinking, he might lighten up a bit eh 

[GTgrizzly]

11 hours ago, cooked said:

I consider emojis to be an abomination and try to ignore them. :-)

As the written word has no voice tones emojis are a great way of letting you know the mood of the text As Colin did to show that his comments were in jest

[Denim]

9 hours ago, xylophone said:

I concur dotpoom...........I drink 3 glasses of wine at night with dinner and enjoy them.

 

However on a once a week sortie out with friends I may have a couple of beers BUT I won't drink during the day and wonder how the guys I see sitting at bars at 11 am manage.........or indeed why they come here on holiday just to sit at a bar?

 

It is a complicated subject because as you say, there are so many variations and I have met many people in France who have worked in vineyards all their lives and who started drinking their first wine (mixed with water) at the age of five years old, and drink wine every day, and they have been in their 80s and still working in the vineyards!

 

I think your comment about, "if alcohol causes a continuing problem in either your social life, work life or financial affairs, maybe it's time to have a look at one's situation," is spot on.

Three or four glasses of wine a night is about the same as the wife and I enjoy between 6.30 pm and 9.00pm,

with our meal and watching a movie.

 

Never touch a drop of anything before 6.30.

 

Unfortunately, with recent increases that translates to about 6000 baht a month which frankly, is just money down the throat.

 

So.....it's back to a couple of beers instead. Fortunately ,we have just discovered Federbrau which is a mighty nice beer so not so bad.

 

There are a couple of sayings related to all things including alcohol.

 

A little of what you fancy does you good.

 

Moderation in all things.

[Different]

I recommend you guys star AA meetings through voice chat programs like Paltalk in Pattaya or where ever you are.