rabies control

[ScotBkk]

19 minutes ago, trd said:

40 minutes ago, ScotBkk said:

Your right, should've said - its in Control ........................

Maybe you could start with Google and look up rabies virus, transmission characteristics, then maybe a dictionary definition of epidemic. And perhaps you could finish by looking at the official rabies figures from the Thai epidemiology Department for the last 30 years. That'll keep you busy for a while. :)

Thanks for that explanation I'm over come with emotion your so kind ..................

[Sheryl]

I would be most interested to know your opinion whether children in Thailand should be vaccinated against rabies.I realize this is not normally recommended unless there's a particular reason for doing so.The children (7 and 5 years old) I have in mind are normally resident in Bangkok but make occasional visits to their "ancestral village" where there has been a case of rabies in the last six months.

I recommend the pre-expodure rabies vaccone for everyone living in Thailand.

Not only will it reduce the number if injections needed post-exposure but it removes the need for adminstration of immune globulin after a bite.

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[brewsterbudgen]

I recommend the pre-expodure rabies vaccone for everyone living in Thailand.

Not only will it reduce the number if injections needed post-exposure but it removes the need for adminstration of immune globulin after a bite.

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Should 3 year olds be vaccinated or is it too young?

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[jayboy]

39 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I recommend the pre-expodure rabies vaccone for everyone living in Thailand.

Not only will it reduce the number if injections needed post-exposure but it removes the need for adminstration of immune globulin after a bite.

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Thank you very much.I will see that your advice is taken.

[sandyf]

22 hours ago, meatboy said:

your 100% right sandyf its not so much about the no of people that die,its the no.of dogs RUNNING LOOSE.

that is a big concern to everyone,except them that cant be bothered.

them that do die suffer a most horrible death than being shot.

Who do you consider is "not bothered", the local population or the government? you would be wrong on both counts, the common factor is lack of money. Most of the dogs running loose are there because at some point along the line people could not afford to feed them and another significant factor is that what culling operations that were in place were closed down from outside influence. Do you really think that generally Thailand has the same resources available as a western economy.

Steps are being taken, we had the government vet at our house last week, maybe not as much as people would like but it is what it is and we must live with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soi_Dog_Foundation

 

BTW our 2 most recent strays a dog and a bitch were taken to the vets on Thursday to be sterilised.

Edited March 24, 2018 by sandyf

[robblok]

I would like to know what the point is of rabies vaccination if you still need shots after exposure. 

Does it give a longer time to start the shots ? 

 

If only the amount of shots after the advantage ?

[meatboy]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Who do you consider is "not bothered", the local population or the government? you would be wrong on both counts, the common factor is lack of money. Most of the dogs running loose are there because at some point along the line people could not afford to feed them and another significant factor is that what culling operations that were in place were closed down from outside influence. Do you really think that generally Thailand has the same resources available as a western economy.

Steps are being taken, we had the government vet at our house last week, maybe not as much as people would like but it is what it is and we must live with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soi_Dog_Foundation

 

BTW our 2 most recent strays a dog and a bitch were taken to the vets on Thursday to be sterilised.

the same comments,NOT BOTHERED and SAME RESOURCES can be the same as the answer.

WHERE does the budget money given every yr.to the provinces to help fight rabies control.1 GUESS.

[meatboy]

if it wasnt for the likes of soi foundation,there's a farang david slak and wife who look after over 200dogs and the lady who the wife went to take 100kilo of rice to help her out [given in honour]of our beloved who passed away,she looks after 250dogs.and there are many more who do this.do they get any help from the GOVERMENT.so as its been announced there will be no cull nothing will change.

[Sheryl]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

I would like to know what the point is of rabies vaccination if you still need shots after exposure. 

Does it give a longer time to start the shots ? 

 

If only the amount of shots after the advantage ?

1. Fewer shots are required.

 

2. Immunoglobulin - which can have serious side effects in some people - is not required at all.

 

 

[Sheryl]

Re all this talk about dogs running loose (which I certainly agree is a problem, especially in rural areas) it is not the case that this means they are strays.

 

It is common practice especially in rural areas for dog owners to just let their animals run free. In addition to being a meance to others, this puts the animals at risk of being hit by cars, as they often are. Indeed, while there are plenty of Thais who love their animals and care for them diligently (if you doubt this, go spend a day in the waiting room of any large veterinary hospital), there are many more for whom dog ownership entails nothing more than giving food scraps to the dog, in exchange for which the dog hangs around and protects the house. Out in the rural area where I live, easily 90% of dog ownership is of this sort.

 

This greatly  blurs the line between strays and pets, especially since most "strays" are living off of more than what they scavenge from the garbage etc - people are tossing them food scraps. If the same person does so enough times, the dog more or less stays near and guards that house. At what point that person becomes the dog's owner is open to debate (and may be different in the minds of the dog, the "owner", and other people...)

 

What is needed is a combined approach:

 

- offer vaccinations cheaply or free, on a regular basis and at convenient locations (outreach by govt workers on a rotational basis to each tambon etc)

 

- ditto spaying and neutering services

 

- educate the public on the importance of vaccinating and neutering dogs and cats (and while at it, on responsible pet ownership in general)

 

-fines for people who fail to vaccinate their pets (NOT fines for feeding "strays", who as mentioned are often in fact pseudo-pets...that will just lead to more animal abandonment and more strays)

 

Oh and not least...add pre-exposure vaccination to the routine childhood vaccine schedule.

 

[sandyf]

4 hours ago, meatboy said:

the same comments,NOT BOTHERED and SAME RESOURCES can be the same as the answer.

WHERE does the budget money given every yr.to the provinces to help fight rabies control.1 GUESS.

You will be saying next that the governments vets that come round the villages are paying for the vaccine and their teams wages out of their own pockets. Same with the mosquito sprayers I suppose you think that they do it for nothing.

 

Limited resources equates to limited services but services are there. Some people are so hung up on Thai bashing it clouds rational thinking.

[Speedo1968]

I wasn't bitten etc by a dog but a young playful dog in the small compound that I live in in Isaan scratched my foot, without drawing blood.

The following day I had a bad bacterial infection that had already given me a high fever and swollen lymph glands up to my groin.    My foot and leg to the knee then showed edema.    My Achilles tendon and other tendons in my foot were so painful that I could not stand or walk.   I was admitted to the hospital overnight.

 

Complications set in as I am unable to take antibiotics being allergic to any suitable for the infection.  I was unable to use any form and it took 3 months to be able to walk again.

 

In other words be aware of any disease that may come via animals.

[Crossy]

5 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Limited resources equates to limited services but services are there. Some people are so hung up on Thai bashing it clouds rational thinking.

Indeed, our dogs were already vaccinated, but the last two weekends it's been announced on the village speakers that you can get your dog (not cats mind) vaccinated for free at the village centre.

 

The vets were doing a brisk trade when I wandered past earlier today, all the temple dogs have been done apparently

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 22/03/2018 at 4:26 PM, speckio said:

soo the Answer to your question seems to be no.. it can not normally be transmitted by mosquitos... however I suppose to the rabies virus can mutate and find new ways to transmit...

I suppose anything's possible theoretically, but if it did, it would create medical and scientific history. There is no known virus that has ever radically changed its method of transmission.

Edited March 24, 2018 by GroveHillWanderer