What's your input to this?

[JAZZDOG]

2 hours ago, The Theory said:

How old is this video ? 

90s ?

I recognize the 49 year old guy, lives next door, 82 and still hard at it. Well maybe not hard but at it.

[Thaidream]

Many of  us were naive when we first came to Thailand and were mesmerized by the laid back atmosphere- the beautiful ladies- the good all around feeling etc  Many of us have learned the hard way (myself included) that  what you see is not always what you get.  

Thais always wear a mask even when speaking with other Thais. They chose their words carefully and make sure they interact with each other in the proper Thai way. They interact with foreigners in the same way but those in the entertainment business long term know exactly how to keep a foreigner interested..  Thais know how to lift the mask and see who is really there.  Most foreigners do not know how to do it and therein is the problem.  Underneath the mask- lies the good, the bad and the ugly.

 

Don't give up all your money and make life changing decisions until you know what is beneath the mask.

[OneMoreFarang]

In lots of comments here and elsewhere people write something like: She does not love you, she only loves your money.

 

Recently I saw the video below and I think the guy is right. If a girl loves a guy because he is young and fit then we somehow think "she really loves him". But in reality she likes the properties young and fit.

And if a guy is rich and spends a lot of money going out and paying for drinks, presents, etc. then many say: "she does not really love him, she only loves his money".

But what is really the difference between loving one or the other? Look yourself...

 

 

 

[khunPer]

It' must be an old video. When they in the beginning talked about Koh Samui, it's quite familiar to me – I'm living there permanently in 13-years, and been coming to the island regular since 2001– but Samui today has pretty little lady-bar night life, so it must be some time ago. The DJ used two vinyl-grammophones, I think the last pair disappeared together with the number one "house music" place, Fuzion Club in Lamai; otherwise only seen when European cult DJ's, like Sven Väth and like do a gust performance in Chaweng's beach clubs. Then I noticed the soap party machine, and yes, I clearly remember that silly thing from a long forgotten place called Bauhaus in Lamai, think the deserted venue closed around 2005, perhaps already 2004; but from forum-posters the place was a major meeting point before the millennium. The short clip from the Full Moon Party beach at Koh Phangan looked almost like the old ones from the good old hippie-era, not like how the party appears in the later years. I didn't check on the music, old songs could have been chosen by purpose. Seemed like some Scandinavian link, as one of the persons talked about Denmark, and a Norwegian flag was often seen in the back. Beach looked like Lamai, and I'm not frequent enough bar guest to recall specific bars, which could have been long gone, but my instant impression was also Lamai. The cabaret show (ladyboys) was something from the past, could have been a clip from "Christy's Cabaret" in Chaweng Beach; to big to be the small cabaret in Lamai, which I also think opened later.

 

So that narrows the time down to the beginning of the new millennium, and that seem quite the same as other TV-programs and videos I've seen about foreigners settling in LoS with birds from the nightlife around that time. The content is very concentrated around bar-life, but with "sex tourist" tag it perhaps had to be like that, at that time, although the FMP was mentioned; today the major meeting points at Samui are the parties, pubs and discos, not that much lady-bar night-life left, and I doubt that bar-girls now-on-days head to FMP to find customers, or potential husbands.

 

When reaching the subtitles – admit I scrolled a little through parts of the ongoing interviews – it looked like the love did not last that "long time" after all, one case mentioned four years. But I noticed they had talked about that instant impression of "not letting the bird fly away", not because it's love, but something else, probably the infectious "Thailand fever". I know the disease very well from myself – when second time in Thailand, but first time as single "handsum gentleman", and an easy target... – and when talking to friends they often say, yes that's exactly how it was, exactly as I also felt it; and those friends did not necessarily meet their lady in a bar; and some are younger than middle age (middle age is defined as 35 to 58 years), but that might have to do with Samui is quite attractive for young folks. However, I also see very happy elder gentlemen together with a bird that has not been flying away for long time – some came here as a young hippie ages ago, and never left – as well as elder happy expats that seem to regularly catch some of the free flying night-birds; lots of win-win...

 

Of course I have also experienced a few of the so-called "horror stories" among my acquaintances.

 

The production titles showed it was a Danish workshop project video from the city "Århus", and made with some public supported financing, copyrighted 2004.

 

Summa sumarum, in my view the video does not in general reflect the present situation at Koh Samui, but there are still a limited "sex tourist" lady-bar night-life left a few places – including some in Lamai, but less than in 2004 and earlier – however quite accurate of what it once was, compared with other video and TV-programs about same subject, and as it perhaps still is in other parts of Thailand.

[jenny2017]

12 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

In lots of comments here and elsewhere people write something like: She does not love you, she only loves your money.

 

Recently I saw the video below and I think the guy is right. If a girl loves a guy because he is young and fit then we somehow think "she really loves him". But in reality she likes the properties young and fit.

And if a guy is rich and spends a lot of money going out and paying for drinks, presents, etc. then many say: "she does not really love him, she only loves his money".

But what is really the difference between loving one or the other? Look yourself...

 

 

 

So true. After I'd met my wife of 15 years, I accidentally ran out of money, when the agent who sold my house messed something up.

 

I could have gone back to sort this out, but: We really loved each other and she didn't run away to find another guy.

 

She called her brother who then sent enough money for me to survive until I could sort all out and in the end, it was a nice, but unwanted trick to check if she really wanted to stay with me.

 

But I truly believe that all foreigners who're planning to live in LOS should learn Thai. It's so stupid if you can't communicate with anybody else than your wife.

 

That's one of the main problems when foreigners think they don't have to learn the language in the country they want to live for the rest of their lives. 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Thaidream said:

Many of  us were naive when we first came to Thailand and were mesmerized by the laid back atmosphere- the beautiful ladies- the good all around feeling etc  Many of us have learned the hard way (myself included) that  what you see is not always what you get.  

Thais always wear a mask even when speaking with other Thais. They chose their words carefully and make sure they interact with each other in the proper Thai way. They interact with foreigners in the same way but those in the entertainment business long term know exactly how to keep a foreigner interested..  Thais know how to lift the mask and see who is really there.  Most foreigners do not know how to do it and therein is the problem.  Underneath the mask- lies the good, the bad and the ugly.

 

Don't give up all your money and make life changing decisions until you know what is beneath the mask.

The other option is just accept the mask and don't try to find some deeper meaning or deeper connection.

With some girls when I see them I am happy, they give me a good time. Sometimes it's hard to tell if they are "really" like this or if that is the mask.

But if you see a girl i.e. every weekend for a few hours and she has this wonderful mask and never let the mask fall then this means: having a good time.

The only problem is if we think she would be always like that and marry her and find out that she does not behave 24/7 like that. But that is something we can, and most of the time should, avoid.

 

[Thaidream]

The video in question is superficial and he is trying to justify his opinion that it doesn't matter if she likes you for your money. Just remember- while she is liking you for your money since her goal is money- she is also liking someone else at the same time for theirs.

Relationships in the West normally start by some type of physical attraction or something in common that the other person finds attractive.  In thailand- the physical attraction is not the most important thing because working girls want the money. there is no respect built up-  no fidelity-  no common interest. If it's always about money someone else always has more than you.

 

However,  while most relationships in Thailand start off with the money- if a long term (many years) relationship/ marriage develops it is possible that feelings develop. Thais do believe in a type of loving relationship based upon   giving; being faithful; being strong; being good; being able to be depended upon and other intangibles. However, a stable relationship will always have an economic factor that keeps it stable.

 

While some bar girl relationships can and do last- a bar is not the place to find love or a long term partner- too many pitfalls and too many obstacles to overcome.

[khunPer]

23 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

In lots of comments here and elsewhere people write something like: She does not love you, she only loves your money.

 

Recently I saw the video below and I think the guy is right. If a girl loves a guy because he is young and fit then we somehow think "she really loves him". But in reality she likes the properties young and fit.

And if a guy is rich and spends a lot of money going out and paying for drinks, presents, etc. then many say: "she does not really love him, she only loves his money".

But what is really the difference between loving one or the other? Look yourself...

<Video omitted>

Yes, it's all about money – and that's not only Thailand, in lots of countries marriages is, or has earlier been, about financial status – but it can still be a win-win, if both parts are aware of the truth and handle it right...

[jenny2017]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

The other option is just accept the mask and don't try to find some deeper meaning or deeper connection.

With some girls when I see them I am happy, they give me a good time. Sometimes it's hard to tell if they are "really" like this or if that is the mask.

But if you see a girl i.e. every weekend for a few hours and she has this wonderful mask and never let the mask fall then this means: having a good time.

The only problem is if we think she would be always like that and marry her and find out that she does not behave 24/7 like that. But that is something we can, and most of the time should, avoid.

 

IMO, also foreigners wear their masks. Some are so broke, but always tell stories about the big businesses they've got back home, others talk about the amount of money they made in their lives, but are asking you to buy them a beer?

 

isn't that another form of wearing a mask? 

[mommysboy]

Different strokes for different folks!

 

Yeah, they do seem rather ill informed on the subject of love and relationships if you want my opinion (many don't and I accept that).

[Thaidream]

t's similar but not the same- Westerners don't wear masks like Thais do. Thais are taught from birth that there are ways of speaking to others so no one loses any face or certain body language to convey  respect and how to  wai and who wai' first..

 

. Thais instinctively know the 'pecking order' and how to interact to maintain harmony.   None of us know how to do this.  We don't instinctively understand such things as Boon Khun and Greing Jai

 

It's almost as if they are acting in order to maintain  harmony- but with Westerners they don't have to maintain harmony because we are not Thai.  Once the mask is penetrasted and comes off- sometimes we see them as they really are and we don't like what we see.

[jenny2017]

  I've met a bargirl, but not being her customer, more her friend, who needed a notebook to get all checked out when Farang A showed up, that it didn't intervene with Farang B, and that went up to eight foreigners where she'd received monthly installments of not less than 20,000 baht.

 

Please watch this one the Thai girls isn't beautiful at all ( sorry, not in my eyes), but she can still fool people to give her 40,000 baht a month?

 

   Having 80,000 baht a month.

 

  Please watch: 

 

   

Edited April 12, 2018 by jenny2017

[jenny2017]

2 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

I recognize the 49 year old guy, lives next door, 82 and still hard at it. Well maybe not hard but at it.

Great to hear that he's still around and happy. The "hard part" isn't so important when you're 82, methinks. 

[khunPer]

4 hours ago, jenny2017 said:

  I've met a bargirl, but not being her customer, more her friend, who needed a notebook to get all checked out when Farang A showed up, that it didn't intervene with Farang B, and that went up to eight foreigners where she'd received monthly installments of not less than 20,000 baht.

 

Please watch this one the Thai girls isn't beautiful at all ( sorry, not in my eyes), but she can still fool people to give her 40,000 baht a month?

 

   Having 80,000 baht a month.

 

  Please watch: 

<video omitted>   

What can one presume that she has of inmcome a month after her three boyfriends has seen this video on YouTube..?

[Hummin]

9 minutes ago, khunPer said:

What can one presume that she has of inmcome a month after her three boyfriends has seen this video on YouTube..?

They will deny it, and keep on because she love him only,,,,,, 

[baansgr]

18 hours ago, jenny2017 said:

  I've met a bargirl, but not being her customer, more her friend, who needed a notebook to get all checked out when Farang A showed up, that it didn't intervene with Farang B, and that went up to eight foreigners where she'd received monthly installments of not less than 20,000 baht.

 

Please watch this one the Thai girls isn't beautiful at all ( sorry, not in my eyes), but she can still fool people to give her 40,000 baht a month?

 

   Having 80,000 baht a month.

 

  Please watch: 

 

   

And the truth is, all her family, extended family and half the village in Issan somewhere will be getting drunk on Lao kao and gambling everyday on these Foreigners money. You could almost picture her as a dental receptionist or the like. Her complete innocence of this as acceptable is the real insight to how Thai women perceive Foreign men. There maybe the odd happily married man but the facts are for that 1, there is 100,000 being fleeced on a daily basis. 

[OneMoreFarang]

37 minutes ago, baansgr said:

There maybe the odd happily married man but the facts are for that 1, there is 100,000 being fleeced on a daily basis. 

It's always refreshing that we have experts like you who explain things to us...

[transam]

43 minutes ago, baansgr said:

And the truth is, all her family, extended family and half the village in Issan somewhere will be getting drunk on Lao kao and gambling everyday on these Foreigners money. You could almost picture her as a dental receptionist or the like. Her complete innocence of this as acceptable is the real insight to how Thai women perceive Foreign men. There maybe the odd happily married man but the facts are for that 1, there is 100,000 being fleeced on a daily basis. 

WoW, you should write a book on the 99.999 blokes you know about...

[OneMoreFarang]

14 hours ago, Hummin said:

14 hours ago, khunPer said:

What can one presume that she has of inmcome a month after her three boyfriends has seen this video on YouTube..?

They will deny it, and keep on because she love him only,,,,,, 

I guess she will tell them that the guy who made the video paid her to tell this story. She: "He gave me 5,000B to tell BS this story. But obviously I only love you" He: "Good girl, I know you are smart and only love me"...

[baansgr]

2 hours ago, transam said:

WoW, you should write a book on the 99.999 blokes you know about...

A more interesting and pleasurable read would be on the 1 that is happily married

[OneMoreFarang]

28 minutes ago, baansgr said:

A more interesting and pleasurable read would be on the 1 that is happily married

No, nobody wants to read a story with happy, happy, happy.

We want drama! But it is ok if that drama ends with a happy end or happy ending.

[lvr181]

Who cares?

[transam]

18 hours ago, baansgr said:

A more interesting and pleasurable read would be on the 1 that is happily married

I am not interested in writing my story....But I can........it..