webfact Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Police Commander dissatisfied with police officers Songkran results BANGKOK, 19th April 2018 (NNT) – The Commander of the Royal Thai Police has voiced dissatisfaction with the work of authorities during the Songkran holiday, especially with the commanding officers in three provinces. Royal Thai Police Commander Pol Gen Chakthip Chaijinda held off on naming the three officers and their provinces, but indicated he was dissatisfied with their efforts during the Songkran holiday. He said he is considering having the three transferred to posts at the National Police Operations Center, suggesting that the move would be due to their failure to adequately prevent road accidents and maintain road safety during Songkran. Pol Gen Chakthip remarked that his impressions of the effectiveness of police work are based solely on public feedback. Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense, Gen Prawit Wongsuwan previously instructed the Royal Thai Police to maintain its stringent road regulations throughout the year and to coordinate with other agencies to further enhance traffic safety. -- nnt 2018-04-19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 Well what a surprise !! The commander of the R.T.P. is dissatisfied with his own men. 7 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 Inactive posts must be at capacity by now and may be the root cause of the commanders frustrations. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, webfact said: Gen Prawit Wongsuwan previously instructed the Royal Thai Police to maintain its stringent road regulations throughout the year and to coordinate with other agencies to further enhance traffic safety. Only one small problem I see with that, and that is quite simply they are not going to do it. They have neither the understanding of how to deal with it, or the inclination to actually enforce Road Law. I am glad some Commanding Officers are in the shit, but I think a lot more than three failed miserably, so he should widen the net. 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAG Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 Three old scores are about to be settled? 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petermik Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 Strange statement that considering the PM stated earlier this week that he was largely satisfied with the Songkran festival this year...... 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thian Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 And the police commander of Phuket deserves a big reward...they should give him the monthly salaries of the 3 worst provinces' commanders. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf61 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 It's not the RIP's fault. You cannot substitute brain with police force, as Gen. Prayut erroneously presumes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stanleycoin Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Well do your job, buy getting your Minions to do there jobs correctly. It starts at the top not the bottom. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like, just a finger pointing exercise to me. Edited April 19, 2018 by stanleycoin 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said: Inactive posts must be at capacity by now and may be the root cause of the commanders frustrations. I think he is referring to his troops are already inactive... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Misterwhisper Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 If Thailand's police force only would finally scrap this insane "inactive posting" policy, where officers still receive full pay for having to do even less than they normally are, the force might actually have some funds to pay the remaining officers a decent wage that may not only serve as an incentive to carry out their duty more effectively but potentially also would help lower corruption. Additionally, the threat of being dismissed from the force altogether instead of being delegated to a comfy and stone-lazy posting might... uhm... "encourage" more officers to put their back into it. But that is unlikely to ever happen as it would affect literally hundreds of obsolete police generals who are getting paid for visiting the golf course every other day -- and that cannot be in their best interest and they'd probably oppose any move towards an "inactive post-free force". 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 A few thousand more commanding officers need the boot. Then maybe a chance for RTP to become a real police force. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 old saying * you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink* they certainly stopped a few thousand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 And so he should be !!!! But it's not really a surprise is it that results weren't forthcoming !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Also you could throw a million officers at the problem but if you don't change the mindset and penalties your P*****g in the wind 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Way I see it, there is really no deterrent - apart from being dead ! Maybe : Drink drive , speeding and kill = 20 years, plus up to 5 years salary in compo, including loss of house if to be sold. Drink Drive = 2 year ban. Drink Drive x 2 = 5 year ban, car/bike crushed Drink Drive x 3 = 1 year in prison , plus 5 year ban, car/bike crushed. Drink drive/speeding injure someone = 100% responsible for ALL hospital costs to victim plus 1 year salary. Drink drive x 3 within 1 year = 1 year in prison. etc,etc. Drink drive and kill 2 occasions = 40 years Maybe , just maybe they might get the message. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Only one small problem I see with that, and that is quite simply they are not going to do it. They have neither the understanding of how to deal with it, or the inclination to actually enforce Road Law. I am glad some Commanding Officers are in the shit, but I think a lot more than three failed miserably, so he should widen the net. All agreed, I especially agree with your words "...have neither the understanding of how to deal with it, or the inclination to actually enforce Road Law." IMHO there is little doubt that senior and middle level cops simply don't know what to do, 99% probably have no knowledge or information about how this is handled (mostly with excellent results) in other countries and there's a good change they would ignore the information anyway. How many have bought their way to the top? Many, meaning that they have no hesitation to be unethical in terms of promotion and also revealing why they are in the force at all - just to the top and join the big boys trough. Nothing but a complete and absolute reorg. of the RTP will achieve anything, starting with removing all of the top 5 or 6 levels of cops and installing credible knowledgeable civilians or good military guys, all with absolute powers to demand change, and powers to severely punish those under them that don't change. Also totally re-organize the recruitment process with professional proven assessment methods which identify more qualified people and more sincere candidates. And at the same time one by one quickly investigate every one of the 5 / 6 levels of cops on 'home leave' using investigators from the civilian world, and prosecute and punish, mostly severe jail terms and confiscation of any ill-gotten wealth. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilacme Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said: Inactive posts must be at capacity by now and may be the root cause of the commanders frustrations. On the basis that they don't show up to do anything, one desk can serve all the inactive post holders whilst they can continue to draw their salaries and focus on their main business interests. Its win win. Edited April 19, 2018 by Tilacme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said: Inactive posts must be at capacity by now and may be the root cause of the commanders frustrations. Fortunately they rotate fairly rapidly.......there ARE vacancies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybuz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, JAG said: Three old scores are about to be settled? Might be three ghosts on the payroll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Put the Officers on a " Payment by results " salary. That should give them the kick up the jacksy they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilacme Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Way I see it, there is really no deterrent - apart from being dead ! Maybe : Drink drive , speeding and kill = 20 years, plus up to 5 years salary in compo, including loss of house if to be sold. Drink Drive = 2 year ban. Drink Drive x 2 = 5 year ban, car/bike crushed Drink Drive x 3 = 1 year in prison , plus 5 year ban, car/bike crushed. Drink drive/speeding injure someone = 100% responsible for ALL hospital costs to victim plus 1 year salary. Drink drive x 3 within 1 year = 1 year in prison. etc,etc. Drink drive and kill 2 occasions = 40 years Maybe , just maybe they might get the message. No, you are reiterating a uk type system, that has been developed into the psychic of the masses over decades, that will do nothing overnight in Thailand other than cause chaos, it needs to start at the beginning with proper licencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: Put the Officers on a " Payment by results " salary. That should give them the kick up the jacksy they need. Great idea... Then we will be pulled over for any imaginary violation they can dream up !! I prefer them sitting in their little huts playing angry birds... Let the carnage continue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 geuss the buck doesnt stop where its suposed to, unless you take the meaning of buck as a dollar.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: Great idea... Then we will be pulled over for any imaginary violation they can dream up !! I prefer them sitting in their little huts playing angry birds... Let the carnage continue , yeah let innocent children get smashed to bits on the roads..lowlife much? pathetic weak souless dumb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny49r Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, webfact said: Police Commander dissatisfied with police officers Songkran results The RTP head cheese has expressed dissatisfaction with his minions! Will heads roll or changes be made? Not likely. Hey Mr. Cheese, you might not be aware of this but there are 358 days of the year that AREN"T Songkran - what are you going to do about those days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somchai Logic Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Thian said: And the police commander of Phuket deserves a big reward...they should give him the monthly salaries of the 3 worst provinces' commanders. Yes, he should be well rewarded. He only let one real statistic slip through the Media Net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) treat officers like the children they are # take away cell phones... Edited April 19, 2018 by mok199 speliings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, kaorop said: , yeah let innocent children get smashed to bits on the roads..lowlife much? pathetic weak souless dumb Love you too, honey... You obviously don't do sarcasm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 "The buck stops here"\ Then do something about it instead of trying to appease your superiors by using scapegoats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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