Pattaya is not as good as it used to be.

[tropo]

6 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

On 4/26/2018 at 5:15 PM, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

Not everyone is a loser that lives in Pattaya. Honest!

Most I know here are not losers.

But, just make poor decisions from time to time.

On the contrary, everyone who settles in Pattaya is a winner. Everything is better in Pattaya!!!!

[Mojomor]

Was it ever any good? This is an honest question, and I think the answer is no!

[poanoi]

9 minutes ago, Mojomor said:

Was it ever any good? This is an honest question, and I think the answer is no!

it was awesome before i became 40+

[mstevens]

3 hours ago, Mojomor said:

Was it ever any good? This is an honest question, and I think the answer is no!

Pattaya was always good for and is probably still a super destination for cheap prostitutes, a laid-back atmosphere and a very low cost of living.  Nothing wrong with any of that.  What always got me were the back-slapping expats who had a massive inferiority complex and would get all bent out of shape at even the slightest negative comment or criticism of Pattaya.

[tropo]

3 hours ago, Mojomor said:

Was it ever any good? This is an honest question, and I think the answer is no!

It is a bit rough for born-again Christians and prudes.

[tropo]

38 minutes ago, mstevens said:

Pattaya was always good for and is probably still a super destination for cheap prostitutes, a laid-back atmosphere and a very low cost of living.  Nothing wrong with any of that.  What always got me were the back-slapping expats who had a massive inferiority complex and would get all bent out of shape at even the slightest negative comment or criticism of Pattaya.

 

If you paid closer attention you'd notice it's the Pattaya knockers who seem to get "all bent out of shape". We just have fun winding them up.

[Mario666]

7 hours ago, tropo said:

If you paid closer attention you'd notice it's the Pattaya knockers who seem to get "all bent out of shape". We just have fun winding them up.

I love Pattaya Knockers, Phuket Knockers, Bangkok Knockers, etc., I don't care where the girl comes from and and I love bending them out of shape and then letting go and watch them go back to normal.

[HLover]

11 minutes ago, Mario666 said:

I love Pattaya Knockers, Phuket Knockers, Bangkok Knockers, etc., I don't care where the girl comes from and and I love bending them out of shape and then letting go and watch them go back to normal.

Easily bent?

Edited April 30, 2018 by HLover
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[Mario666]

1 minute ago, HLover said:

A silver tongued Romeo bringing class and regality to everyone.

Thank you Mr. HLover

[Mario666]

20 minutes ago, HLover said:

Easily bent?

?????????????

[Rimmer]

A troll post and a reply have been removed

[Kerryd]

It's kind of funny. You can tell the mentality of a lot of people by the way they comment every time the subject of Pattaya comes up. If you listen to some of them, you'd think there was nothing more than 1 cheap flop house hotel, 2 meters of garbage strewn sand passing for a beach and 20,000 beer and go-go bars employing 400,000 women that sleep with 30 men a night each.

 

Kinda makes you think that a lot of the people making those posts have never actually been to Pattaya and are just embellishing old stories, or maybe they had one short holiday and spent the entire trip in Soi 6 and 7 and think that the rest of the city must be just like that.

Then there are the bashers who only wish they could be living here and are sitting in their little one room flat with their tin of cat food wondering if someone at the local might "spot them" a beer. They hate everyone that is living the lifestyle they think they should be living. If they only have a 2nd hand bicycle and you have a scooter, they hate people with scooters. If you give them your scooter and buy a car, they hate cars and think they should all be taken off the roads. If you have a 2 bedroom flat, they think you are an elitist snob. (Except when they see you at the pub and are hitting you up for a beer of course.) When they see a topic about a place like Pattaya, they get on their high horse and start bashing because if they can't be living there then screw anyone who can. "Waaaa - I can't live in Pattaya so anyone who can must be total scum because the place is nothing but brothel full of women who only want to rip you off and won't screw me for free - waaaaaa ". (I'm sure most everyone has heard similar drivel themselves over the years.)

Reminds me of a couple stories. One is about a guy (former co-worker of mine when I was in Kabul). He took a short, 10 day trip to Phuket. First and only time he'd ever been to Thailand. Comes back and starts running around trying to convince everyone that he is an expert on all things relating to Thailand, Thai cops, Thai bars and Thai women. He was trying to convince people that all the women were "clean" because they all (lol) have to get medical checks every week and the police check their little books to make sure they have been getting checked and the police were all honest and couldn't be paid off !
I'll bet he still runs around telling the same BS stories to whoever will listen and unfortunately, most people will probably believe him and then pass on the same BS themselves.

 

The other story has been going around for decades. Tell somebody in a group that you live in Thailand and someone pipes up about how he has "a friend" who went to Thailand on holiday. Rented a nice house right on the beach. Had one woman that did all the cooking and another one that did all the cleaning and he was sleeping with both of them, and it only cost him $75 a month (for the rent, food and  women) ! 
I actually had 2 people tell me that same story within a couple weeks of each other while I was working in Afghanistan. In both cases I just shook my head and told them that the Vietnam war had ended 30 years earlier. They couldn't figure out what I meant and then I explained that they didn't have "a friend" who'd gone to Thailand, they were repeating a story they'd heard someone else tell, who'd heard it from someone else (and so on and so on). The telling point is usually when you ask them their friend's name and/or when he went there and they can't remember "because they'd heard it a long time ago").

Many years ago we did a thread about Pattaya where we listed all the things you could see and do around the city without going anywhere near Walking Street or a beer bar. I think it was in response to a question someone asked about what to they could do on holiday without having to go to any "seedy" areas. (It seems they were in the group of people who'd heard stories about Pattaya and thought the entire city was one big brothel and that every street was filled with nothing but beer bars and a-go-gos.)

We compiled a very large list of things you could see and do in/around the city without going to any "seedy areas". From paintball to bungee-jumping to bowling to crocodile farms to malls to tropical gardens and zoos and so on. I think we had at least 100 different activities you could do as a family, and that was probably 10 years ago so there are probably a lot more than that now.

 

But if you listen to some, there's nothing but bars and hookers. 

 

[morrobay]

On 4/30/2018 at 12:11 AM, Mojomor said:

Was it ever any good? This is an honest question, and I think the answer is no!

So you "think" the answer is no. Do you mind stating what your Pattaya history is ?

As well as your subjective/objective perceptions in this history. 

Note : Like some others have commented there seems to be suspiciously a lot of comments

from those who have very little time if any in Pattaya.

Edited May 3, 2018 by morrobay

[newnative]

2 hours ago, Kerryd said:

It's kind of funny. You can tell the mentality of a lot of people by the way they comment every time the subject of Pattaya comes up. If you listen to some of them, you'd think there was nothing more than 1 cheap flop house hotel, 2 meters of garbage strewn sand passing for a beach and 20,000 beer and go-go bars employing 400,000 women that sleep with 30 men a night each.

 

Kinda makes you think that a lot of the people making those posts have never actually been to Pattaya and are just embellishing old stories, or maybe they had one short holiday and spent the entire trip in Soi 6 and 7 and think that the rest of the city must be just like that.

Then there are the bashers who only wish they could be living here and are sitting in their little one room flat with their tin of cat food wondering if someone at the local might "spot them" a beer. They hate everyone that is living the lifestyle they think they should be living. If they only have a 2nd hand bicycle and you have a scooter, they hate people with scooters. If you give them your scooter and buy a car, they hate cars and think they should all be taken off the roads. If you have a 2 bedroom flat, they think you are an elitist snob. (Except when they see you at the pub and are hitting you up for a beer of course.) When they see a topic about a place like Pattaya, they get on their high horse and start bashing because if they can't be living there then screw anyone who can. "Waaaa - I can't live in Pattaya so anyone who can must be total scum because the place is nothing but brothel full of women who only want to rip you off and won't screw me for free - waaaaaa ". (I'm sure most everyone has heard similar drivel themselves over the years.)

Reminds me of a couple stories. One is about a guy (former co-worker of mine when I was in Kabul). He took a short, 10 day trip to Phuket. First and only time he'd ever been to Thailand. Comes back and starts running around trying to convince everyone that he is an expert on all things relating to Thailand, Thai cops, Thai bars and Thai women. He was trying to convince people that all the women were "clean" because they all (lol) have to get medical checks every week and the police check their little books to make sure they have been getting checked and the police were all honest and couldn't be paid off !
I'll bet he still runs around telling the same BS stories to whoever will listen and unfortunately, most people will probably believe him and then pass on the same BS themselves.

 

The other story has been going around for decades. Tell somebody in a group that you live in Thailand and someone pipes up about how he has "a friend" who went to Thailand on holiday. Rented a nice house right on the beach. Had one woman that did all the cooking and another one that did all the cleaning and he was sleeping with both of them, and it only cost him $75 a month (for the rent, food and  women) ! 
I actually had 2 people tell me that same story within a couple weeks of each other while I was working in Afghanistan. In both cases I just shook my head and told them that the Vietnam war had ended 30 years earlier. They couldn't figure out what I meant and then I explained that they didn't have "a friend" who'd gone to Thailand, they were repeating a story they'd heard someone else tell, who'd heard it from someone else (and so on and so on). The telling point is usually when you ask them their friend's name and/or when he went there and they can't remember "because they'd heard it a long time ago").

Many years ago we did a thread about Pattaya where we listed all the things you could see and do around the city without going anywhere near Walking Street or a beer bar. I think it was in response to a question someone asked about what to they could do on holiday without having to go to any "seedy" areas. (It seems they were in the group of people who'd heard stories about Pattaya and thought the entire city was one big brothel and that every street was filled with nothing but beer bars and a-go-gos.)

We compiled a very large list of things you could see and do in/around the city without going to any "seedy areas". From paintball to bungee-jumping to bowling to crocodile farms to malls to tropical gardens and zoos and so on. I think we had at least 100 different activities you could do as a family, and that was probably 10 years ago so there are probably a lot more than that now.

 

But if you listen to some, there's nothing but bars and hookers. 

 

    Unfortunately, we still have the totally clueless.  Only a few weeks ago a poster made the ridiculous, absurd comment that Pattaya from Dolphin Circle to Walking Street was just one big brothel. 

[torrzent]

Same as it ever was, an award winning paradise!

[Rimmer]

A troll post has been removed

[The manic]

On 4/26/2018 at 3:05 PM, Lungstib said:

30 years in Thailand and not yet been to Pattaya, waiting for it to get even better! 

Then you have been to cosmopolitan Thailand.

[thaibeachlovers]

Compared to the 90s, nowhere in LOS is as good now. The smile went long ago, followed by nice beaches, and now it's all just about money and greed.

[DrTuner]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Compared to the 90s, nowhere in LOS is as good now. The smile went long ago, followed by nice beaches, and now it's all just about money and greed.

It's a steady, slow downhill with no turn visible in the horizon. Same large event must occur for the direction to change.

[scubascuba3]

Maybe time to go somewhere else? Or accept it

Compared to the 90s, nowhere in LOS is as good now. The smile went long ago, followed by nice beaches, and now it's all just about money and greed.

[mstevens]

10 hours ago, DrTuner said:

It's a steady, slow downhill with no turn visible in the horizon. Same large event must occur for the direction to change.

I wasn't around back then but expats who were have told me that it was like that during the mid '90s and then the Asian economic crisis happened and it all changed and things reverted back to how they had been years earlier.....until at some time later things started changing again.

[janclaes47]

5 minutes ago, mstevens said:

I wasn't around back then but expats who were have told me that it was like that during the mid '90s and then the Asian economic crisis happened and it all changed and things reverted back to how they had been years earlier.....until at some time later things started changing again.

The only thing that changed during the economic crisis was that foreigners got more Baht for their money, so they spent easier, and the Thais got more Bahts for that reason.

 

Money makes people smile.

[poanoi]

i think the go-go girls were prettier and lesbian shows better back then,

but the supermarkets today have far and away better assortment.

traffic was a bit riskier then, but otoh it wasnt anywhere near this level of traffic jam

[scubascuba3]

I think peoples memories aren't great. I'm pretty sure there is a better selection of girls in gogos now then there was 20 years ago. Plenty of fugly fillers now, same as before

[Jeremia Juxtaposed]

4 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

The only thing that changed during the economic crisis was that foreigners got more Baht for their money, so they spent easier, and the Thais got more Bahts for that reason.

 

Money makes people smile.

Prior to, during and shortly after the crash, "normal Thai office girls" became concerned for their jobs, got pay cuts and some lost their jobs. Getting a freebie was never easier if you had a car and a condo. But as you say, we had "loadsamoney"  and we were willing to go out and have a good time and the girls were just along for the "ride"..........Brilliant days!!!

[theguyfromanotherforum]

15 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Compared to the 90s, nowhere in LOS is as good now. The smile went long ago, followed by nice beaches, and now it's all just about money and greed.

 

Of course, it was never about money and greed when sexpat Farang was going to Pattaya 30 years ago as his currency could buy so much for so little while exploiting cheap Thai labor.

 

You guys should hurry up to Cambodia before too much money starts flowing in and they wake up too.

 

 

[jimmyyy]

On 4/26/2018 at 11:38 PM, Jeremia Juxtaposed said:

 

Thai village life for Farangs is BETTER than it used to be IMO.

 

I moved to Isaan in pre Thaksin days and before investment in infrastructure when many village roads were dirt tracks, there was no water supply and buffaloes worked on the land etc etc bla bla ..

 

Life for farang nowadays is completely different with a Makro/Big C/Homepro/Tesco etc etc..within 1 hour drive on proper roads. There are more farang out there too if you get tired of watching Thai soaps.....Then you start talking about GSM... 2g or 3g or 4g or 5g...You were lucky if you had analogue!! Then came True and internet....Jeez they are more connected now than in rural Dorset from which I hail!!

 

Village life rough for a farang ? My arse it is!!

I would have to agree, i have seen my wives sleepy village grow leaps and bounds.  In fact so much so, we decided to move here last month.  Built a house here years ago and only used it for visits.  Only thing i had to do was get the internet installed and get true platinum for the kids.  I have a 7/11 2 kilometers away, a Big C and Tesco big store less than 15 klicks.  Makro at 17 Klicks.  In 20 minutes i can be at KFC, Pizza Company, McDonalds, and a number of farang food spots.  Our local village store is getting an ATM by years end. 

 

I like the rural life, i grew up rural so its a natural fit to me.  Once my Thai gets up where it needs to be communication issue will be gone.  But there are many up here that speak english, so its not really much of a problem. 

[Mojomor]

On 03/05/2018 at 11:30 AM, morrobay said:

So you "think" the answer is no. Do you mind stating what your Pattaya history is ?

As well as your subjective/objective perceptions in this history. 

Note : Like some others have commented there seems to be suspiciously a lot of comments

from those who have very little time if any in Pattaya.

I have been here for 12 years. The place is okay, but not great. It is too noisy, too dirty, and too expensive. It is also full of people pretending to be something else. I like Thailand a lot and have travelled to most parts, but not all. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 2:33 AM, mstevens said:

I wasn't around back then but expats who were have told me that it was like that during the mid '90s and then the Asian economic crisis happened and it all changed and things reverted back to how they had been years earlier.....until at some time later things started changing again.

Referring only to the farang bar scene, it was the best up till the economic crisis, when there were plenty of well paid expats spending large in the gogos and bars. Many lost their jobs in the crisis and things changed, then Purachai really destroyed it. Never recovered to what it was before.

 

BTW, traffic in Bkk improved immensely after the crisis when rich Thais had to sell their cars.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, Mojomor said:

I have been here for 12 years. The place is okay, but not great. It is too noisy, too dirty, and too expensive. It is also full of people pretending to be something else. I like Thailand a lot and have travelled to most parts, but not all. 

Pattaya is all you say, but it's cheaper than Bkk and more exciting than any other Thai town I've been in.