Swiss man, 71, falls to his death from eighth floor

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, thairookie said:

 

The condo will become haunted.  Spare a thought for the landlord.  If you wish to jump, find a neutral location.

I doubt if the landlord is going to make the suicide known to his new tenant.

[Jeremia Juxtaposed]

2 hours ago, giddyup said:

But there isn't always a solution.

That is obviously true but you will only find out if there is no solution without first seeking one. 

Edited May 7, 2018 by Jeremia Juxtaposed

[giddyup]

4 minutes ago, maximillian said:

Captive bolt pistol. Legally available. My choice should need arrive...

The goal of captive bolt stunning is to inflict a forceful strike on the forehead with the bolt in order to induce unconsciousness. The bolt may or may not destroy part of the brain.

No guarantees there.

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Jeremia Juxtaposed said:

That is obviously true but you will only find out if there is no solution without first seeking one. 

Maybe that's already been done by the jumper, we will never know. Why prolong life if you live in constant pain or clinical depression?

[maximillian]

Just now, giddyup said:

The goal of captive bolt stunning is to inflict a forceful strike on the forehead with the bolt in order to induce unconsciousness. The bolt may or may not destroy part of the brain.

No guarantees there.

Witnessed slaughtering cattle and horses with C.B.   They were sure dead after the shot.

[Docno]

2 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said:

I always suspect very few of the 'jumpers' actually jumped.

More like fell or were pushed.

 

But suicide is a popular and convenient explanation for all concerned, police don't need to investigate, insurance doesn't need to pay, holidaymakers aren't discouraged from visiting. 'Jumping' is a win win conclusion for all involved (except the victim, and who really cares about an old foreigner).

Little reason to make such sweeping statements. We know two things: 

1. Suicide rates are often the highest among the middle aged and elderly.
2. Thailand attracts a disproportionate number of expats/retirees with mental health issues (this is at least the case among Britons, but probably applies to other Europeans - see <click here>)

Put those facts together and there's no reason to be so conspiratorial/paranoid about the 'apparent' suicides that are so often reported here... 

[Lucky mike]

20 minutes ago, giddyup said:

What, disposal of the body? That happens when you die of natural causes.

It has an affect on those they leave behind, guilt, blame, many unanswered questions ...in many ways selfish....

[Essaybloke]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

I can agree it is maybe some few who get pushed, but really, think about it? You old, little money, your little thing doesnt give you joy anymore, going to the bar you realize your friends is only speaking about they daily problems, world problems, finding new hate objects, and this have been going on for years in a loop. People start dying around you, and life is miserable, and you start thinking about what you should have done 20 years ago first time you sat your as on that bar chair. Just an example! Could have been 5 years ago for what I care. 

 

I know when I get older, lonely, used abused no money, no hope, no family I will also end it myselves. But as far as I am concerned, I can start avoiding that now while I can. 

Well yes, sad but (likely) very true for many. At least as far as we know (murder conspiracists aside), he chose his own time, place and method.  And I must say, that Camry seems to have stood up pretty well to the impact of a 70/80 kg weight hitting it from 8 storeys up. 

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, maximillian said:

Witnessed slaughtering cattle and horses with C.B.   They were sure dead after the shot.

Not foolproof though. Who wants to end up a vegetable?

[somtamjames]

The Swiss man was not known to have had any job. 

 

   Difficult to find a teaching position in his age. 

 

  RIP>

Edited May 7, 2018 by somtamjames

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Lucky mike said:

It has an affect on those they leave behind, guilt, blame, many unanswered questions ...in many ways selfish....

What if you have no family or children? Who's going to feel guilty? Many of the suicides in Thailand are single, elderly men, no one to miss them unfortunately. Nothing selfish about it, your life, your choice. Or should they spend their remaining time depressed and in pain?

[Lucky mike]

4 minutes ago, giddyup said:

What if you have no family or children? Who's going to feel guilty? Many of the suicides in Thailand are single, elderly men, no one to miss them unfortunately. Nothing selfish about it, your life, your choice. Or should they spend their remaining time depressed and in pain?

No argument from me, always easier to live someone else's life a matter of personal choice ?

Edited May 7, 2018 by Lucky mike
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[africasiaeuro]

One could call this a retiree column for there are so many commentators. However, the issue is much more serious.

We should give it a new name ' Thai death jump', just go ahead and look up the numbers who jumped in a year - all this whilst living in paradise.

I chose to write this addition whilst looking out from my window in North East Lombardia, 50 km from Bergamo towards the Swiss Alps. By the way prices for a room with a view with Balcony in the 1st floor are reasonable even by Thai standards, at 17 Bucks per night. Invigorating fresh air and breathtaking scenery included. How 's that for starters? For those who have similar ideas let me say this : No one should jump in paradise - nor elsewhere, it simply isn't worth it. - trust me.

africasiaeuro.com

[sawadee1947]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The Swiss man was not known to have had any job

How strange indeed. 71 years old and no job...... 

[Hummin]

Give men reasons for why Pattaya and Bangkok is socalled paradises? I can easily tell you 10 good reasons to stay in my orign country, and only two why I choose to leave! 

 

But paradise? It is as absurd as 72  virgins waiting for you in Heaven if you ,,, 

[Happyman58]

3 hours ago, crazykopite said:

There seems to be a lot of Foreign jumpers who live in the Kingdom ?? RIP ??

Thank godi am scared of heights. Last time i flew to Thailand the captain said we are flying at 40,000 feet i broke into a cold sweat

[giddyup]

8 minutes ago, africasiaeuro said:

  For those who have similar ideas let me say this : No one should jump in paradise - nor elsewhere, it simply isn't worth it. - trust me.

africasiaeuro.com

It isn't worth it, trust me? You've tried it and didn't like it I assume? How can you judge what is right for someone else when you know absolutely FA about them?

Edited May 7, 2018 by giddyup

[rossd]

3 hours ago, Juan B Tong said:

Hmm

 

Is she looking for additional old expats?

Fraid not.

[Mickmouse1]

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

Soon Bangkok and Pattaya will not have open windows or balconies anymore. If you going to kill yourselves, please do not jump. 

 

1. You can hurt somone pshysical

2. You can hurt somone emotionally

3. You can damage property

4. You tie up resourches

5. There is solutions to your problems

 

 

You are right , the Camry was damaged.I wonder why so many Farangs go to LOS  to jump from balconies or were they pushed/ to jump if not physically jumped.RIP

[Jonah Tenner]

48 minutes ago, thairookie said:

 

The condo will become haunted.  Spare a thought for the landlord.  If you wish to jump, find a neutral location.

I hate free fall, so jumping is out of the question.

[giddyup]

2 minutes ago, Mickmouse1 said:

You are right , the Camry was damaged.I wonder why so many Farangs go to LOS  to jump from balconies or were they pushed/ to jump if not physically jumped.RIP

I doubt if anyone comes to Thailand to jump out a window, but there is an aging falang population retired here. Old can equate to sick and depressed, there's your reason.

[holy cow cm]

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

Soon Bangkok and Pattaya will not have open windows or balconies anymore. If you going to kill yourselves, please do not jump. 

 

1. You can hurt somone pshysical

2. You can hurt somone emotionally

3. You can damage property

4. You tie up resourches

5. There is solutions to your problems

 

 

Clean up is a biatch if they can't get the fire hoses down a small soi.

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Clean up is a biatch if they can't get the fire hoses down a small soi.

I have fainted two times under water during controlled freediving, and it is painless and uncomplicated if you have trained buddy. Easy to simulate on surface to with hyperventilation, plastic bac with a string, and get up fast. Could be wise to have something soft to fall on if you should fail, wake up and have headick. 

 

What ever problem you have do it right one time in life! Do not put others in danger or stress!

 

as I said, I have been on scene whith shit like this enough time to have anvoixe about it. Cynicle, Yes, but it have to be talked about, and maybe thats all that needs to be done to save one or two bastards until next time shit hit the fan!

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, saakura said:

Sounds like he was very lonely and probably poor too. RIP

Pure superstition on your part of course... as no real facts are known.

[dutchbull]

Pattaya and Bangkok jumping cities

[saakura]

4 hours ago, NextStationBangkok said:

I am always wondering, why Swiss leave their beautiful mountains and country and comes to concrete jungle like Bangkok.

Yes, what could it possibly be??

[giddyup]

40 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Pure superstition on your part of course... as no real facts are known.

I think the word you are looking for is supposition, not superstition, but Saakura is probably right.

[ttrd]

7 hours ago, Hummin said:

Soon Bangkok and Pattaya will not have open windows or balconies anymore. If you going to kill yourselves, please do not jump. 

 

1. You can hurt somone pshysical

2. You can hurt somone emotionally

3. You can damage property

4. You tie up resourches

5. There is solutions to your problems

 

 

Do you seriously believe that someone who are in a such state would be able to think rationally - They dont...

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RIP

Edited May 7, 2018 by ttrd

[giddyup]

39 minutes ago, dutchbull said:

Pattaya and Bangkok jumping cities

The Golden Gate bridge has it's fair share of suicides. Almost 1700 people to date.

Edited May 7, 2018 by giddyup

[The Deerhunter]

5 hours ago, giddyup said:

Not always. He may have been terminally ill, he may have been broke.

Ps And it is inconsiderate too the poor blighters who have to clean up.