rooster59 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 McCain's daughter slams White House aide's 'he's dying' comments By Justin Mitchell FILE PHOTO: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) speaks at a press conference about the National Defense Authorization Act in Washington, U.S., October 25, 2017. REUTERS/Aaron P. Bernstein/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican U.S. Senator John McCain's daughter, Meghan McCain, on Friday questioned how the aide who disparaged her ailing father during a White House meeting still has a job there. Kelly Sadler, a White House communications aide, dismissed Senator McCain's objection to President Donald Trump's nominee to be CIA director, Gina Haspel, by saying it "doesn't matter, he's dying anyway," a source familiar with the closed White House meeting told Reuters. Speaking on ABC's "The View," which she co-hosts, Meghan McCain said she wanted to inform Sadler that her father's battle with brain cancer has made her realise the meaning of life was "not how you die, it is how you live." "I don’t understand what kind of environment you're working in when that would be acceptable, and then you can come to work the next day and still have a job," she said. White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders said later on Friday that Sadler still works at the White House, and refused to confirm or deny what Sadler had said. "I'm not going to validate a leak out of an internal staff meeting one way or the other," Sanders said. John McCain, who has spent the last several weeks convalescing at his home in Arizona as he battles brain cancer, released a statement after Haspel's Senate confirmation hearing on Wednesday, slamming her for refusing to condemn torture. He recommended his fellow senators vote against her. McCain is not expected to return to Washington to cast a vote on her nomination. McCain was tortured as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War, sustaining injuries from which he has never completely recovered. Several of McCain's fellow Republicans on Capitol Hill condemned Sadler's remarks. Jeff Flake, Arizona's other senator and a frequent critic of the White House under Trump, tweeted an article about the comments and wrote: "There are no words." Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa tweeted that the United States should "treat this war hero and his family with the civility and respect they deserve." Democratic former Vice President Joe Biden, a longtime Senate colleague and friend of McCain, said in a statement: "People have wondered when decency would hit rock bottom with this administration. It happened yesterday." Meghan McCain thanked the public for its support. "My father’s legacy is going to be talked about for hundreds and hundreds of years," she said. "These people - nothing burgers." McCain was the Republican Party's presidential candidate in 2008. He has been a frequent and sharp critic of Trump, a fellow Republican. At an election campaign appearance in 2015, Trump responded to criticism from McCain by denigrating the former Navy flier's military service. "He’s not a war hero," Trump said. "He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured." Sadler's comments were reported the same day that a guest on Fox Business Network, retired Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney, suggested McCain divulged critical information to the North Vietnamese after being tortured. He did not elaborate or provide evidence to back up his claim. A network spokesperson said McInerney would no longer be invited to appear on the Fox Business Network or Fox News. -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-05-12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted May 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2018 "...Republican U.S. Senator John McCain's daughter, Meghan McCain, on Friday questioned how the aide who disparaged her ailing father during a White House meeting still has a job there..." The answer to the question is quite straightforward. Donald Trump has devalued, denigrated and diminished the dignity of the Presidency, the political discourse in the US, and generally speaking the basic civility of the United States. Why would the aide be punished if her boss is far, far worse? Why would an aide be punished if she acts like her boss? If there is a single American citizen who has earned courtesy and respect, it is John McCain. The fact that he doesn't get it from the current White House speaks volumes. I have said it before and (sadly) need to say it again; Donald Trump is an ever-expanding cloud of toxic waste that defiles everything it touches. God help us all. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somtamnication Posted May 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2018 What dirt politicians are made of. Nothing surprises me anymore coming out of the overwhelmingly "white" house. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted May 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said: "...Republican U.S. Senator John McCain's daughter, Meghan McCain, on Friday questioned how the aide who disparaged her ailing father during a White House meeting still has a job there..." The answer to the question is quite straightforward. Donald Trump has devalued, denigrated and diminished the dignity of the Presidency, the political discourse in the US, and generally speaking the basic civility of the United States. Why would the aide be punished if her boss is far, far worse? Why would an aide be punished if she acts like her boss? If there is a single American citizen who has earned courtesy and respect, it is John McCain. The fact that he doesn't get it from the current White House speaks volumes. I have said it before and (sadly) need to say it again; Donald Trump is an ever-expanding cloud of toxic waste that defiles everything it touches. God help us all. Normally I agree with you but not on this one. John McCain is a self-serving egoist who thought the nutter Sarah Palin would make a great President if something should happen to him. He's a war Hawk and has lived off his captivity for decades. I wish him no harm but all this 'for he's a jolly good fellow' is misplaced. 6 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BobBKK said: Normally I agree with you but not on this one. John McCain is a self-serving egoist who thought the nutter Sarah Palin would make a great President if something should happen to him. He's a war Hawk and has lived off his captivity for decades. I wish him no harm but all this 'for he's a jolly good fellow' is misplaced. I can't really argue with you in regards to the political decisions, especially Palin (shudder!). However, what he did in uniform deserves a lifetime of respect and admiration in my view. And to have it mocked by "Cadet Bone Spurs" and his ilk is truly disgusting and vile. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Edited May 12, 2018 by Samui Bodoh Lack of coffee 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) Has this White House and the illiberals fallen so low into the dirt that a WH staffer can make such crass remarks about a dying man and be defended for doing so. We don’t need to argue about John McCain’s military service, it’s a matter of record, as his his public service. We are all of us dying, unlike most of us John McCain knows his time has come. He’s using the last days of his life to continue his life long public service, most recently adding his voice against something he himself has first hand experience of, torture. The comments by Kelly Sadler are not simply crass, they are an affront to the common human decency that has no party political, national, race, religious or any other allegiance other than that of empathy for another human being. Edited May 12, 2018 by Chomper Higgot 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anak Nakal Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Respect his service. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 McCain may indeed be dying but his family and the nation can hold their heads up high regarding his actual real greatness. Compare to sleazy con man "trump" -- no wonder "trump" hates him. Quote WASHINGTON POST John McCain is the single greatest political leader of our time ... McCain is still with us, and this is no obituary. But as Trump loyalists besmirch this good man, I thought I would put in writing what I have often thought over the years: John McCain is the single greatest political leader of our time. He is, in a way, not of our time, for his creed — country before self — is unfamiliar to many who serve in office and utterly foreign to the man in charge. http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-John-McCain-is-the-single-greatest-political-leader-of-our-time.ByIvniXAM.html 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: "...Republican U.S. Senator John McCain's daughter, Meghan McCain, on Friday questioned how the aide who disparaged her ailing father during a White House meeting still has a job there..." The answer to the question is quite straightforward. Donald Trump has devalued, denigrated and diminished the dignity of the Presidency, the political discourse in the US, and generally speaking the basic civility of the United States. Why would the aide be punished if her boss is far, far worse? Why would an aide be punished if she acts like her boss? If there is a single American citizen who has earned courtesy and respect, it is John McCain. The fact that he doesn't get it from the current White House speaks volumes. I have said it before and (sadly) need to say it again; Donald Trump is an ever-expanding cloud of toxic waste that defiles everything it touches. God help us all. Nice points. Seems to me that officially the aide lady is an employee of the USA and not a personal employee of Trump. Regardless of Trumps disgraceful attitudes, words, behaviors the aide must surely comply with the behaviors and attitudes expected of all employees of the USA, which are way different to Trumps attitudes, words, behaviors. Edited May 12, 2018 by scorecard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonnapat Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Somtamnication said: What dirt politicians are made of. Nothing surprises me anymore coming out of the overwhelmingly "white" house. Joe Biden was right, rock bottom in any kind of decency. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 quote from the OP "He’s not a war hero," Trump said. "He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured." This insult from a failed Cadet Bonespurs who NEVER served a day in the military is the pits. I don't think that Trump could get much lower but he has plunged deeper in his Trump made swamp. I have 2 reactions to it. 1 I had to laugh at a person who has done nothing at all for his country insults a man who was willing to give his all for his country, including dying for it 2 I felt so angry that such a miserable maggot as Trump has the power to declare nuclear war on any country or countries and slaughter millions of people just because the are different to him and they don't like or trust him. A quote from a former president of the USA who was also willing to give his life for his country. My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/john_f_kennedy_109213 The best thing That Trump can do for the USA is to quit politics forever, TODAY. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Opl Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/20/what-donald-trump-was-up-to-while-john-mccain-was-suffering-as-a-prisoner-of-war/?utm_term=.6fbaa44ad627 "He avoided the Vietnam War draft on his way to earning an Ivy League degree. He was fond of fancy dinners, beautiful women and outrageous clubs. Most important, he had a job in his father’s real estate company. More than 8,000 miles away, John McCain sat in a tiny, squalid North Vietnamese prison cell. The Navy pilot’s body was broken from a plane crash, starvation, botched operations and months of torture." “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” Edited May 12, 2018 by Opl 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) Offensive posts and replies have been removed. A post containing a link to a site that contained offensive content has been removed. Edited May 12, 2018 by metisdead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsincity Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 well it seems a case of which one is the "lesser of the two devils" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, lionsincity said: well it seems a case of which one is the "lesser of the two devils" That makes no sense. McCain is not evil and he's never directly run against "trump" in any election and never will. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Russell17au Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) John McCain was following his orders that were given by President Nixon of the United States when he was captured by the North Vietnamese the same as every soldier, sailor and airmen of all the nations that were involved in the Vietnam War. He was not a coward that ran away from his sworn duty. Edited May 12, 2018 by Russell17au 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Russell17au said: John McCain was following his orders that were given by the President Nixon of the United States when he was captured by the North Vietnamese the same as every soldier, sailor and airmen of all the nations that were involved in the Vietnam War. Yes, you can't blame McCain for the policy back then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Anak Nakal said: Respect his service. Dropping bombs on citizens of North Vietnam? Being one of the very few that actually got shot down? The other thousands of aviators that didn't get shot down did well. Wish my daddy was a big shot commander in the Navy. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Russell17au Posted May 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, IAMHERE said: Dropping bombs on citizens of North Vietnam? Being one of the very few that actually got shot down? The other thousands of aviators that didn't get shot down did well. Wish my daddy was a big shot commander in the Navy. Just remember you were not there. He did not choose his targets, they were chosen for him by American intelligence and he was told to drop his bombs where he was told to.It is the same as all those soldiers that were covered with agent orange at the orders or the American intelligence. So if you want to blame anyone for where the bombs were dropped then blame the American intelligence that controlled everything in Vietnam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BobBKK Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 23 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: I can't really argue with you in regards to the political decisions, especially Palin (shudder!). However, what he did in uniform deserves a lifetime of respect and admiration in my view. And to have it mocked by "Cadet Bone Spurs" and his ilk is truly disgusting and vile. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I respect his service and I disrespect his choice of VP who would have been POTUS if he won and had died. A bad piece of misjudgment and I dislike any Republican so he's just in that bag lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Trump and his crew are absolutely disgusting he is a disgrace hopefully the trumpers start to see what he is just disgusting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 The WH seems to be doubling down on the defense of Ms. Sadler claiming, through various surrogates that it was a joke, it was made in private, it was made in confidence, that this happens all the time. Even Sarah Pecanpie Sanders berated her staff for the leak, the news of which of course leaked. Even Mrs. Schlapp, a WH staffer so incensed along with her husband Matt by Michelle Wolf's jokes, that they walked out of the WHCD, has defended Sadler's joke. Go figure. It would be so easy to just suck it up and apologize, but doing the decent thing seems impossible. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 hour ago, mtls2005 said: The WH seems to be doubling down on the defense of Ms. Sadler claiming, through various surrogates that it was a joke, it was made in private, it was made in confidence, that this happens all the time. Even Sarah Pecanpie Sanders berated her staff for the leak, the news of which of course leaked. Even Mrs. Schlapp, a WH staffer so incensed along with her husband Matt by Michelle Wolf's jokes, that they walked out of the WHCD, has defended Sadler's joke. Go figure. It would be so easy to just suck it up and apologize, but doing the decent thing seems impossible. Well, actually it wouldn't be all that easy to suck it up and apologize. Doing something like that would make their boss, who never apologizes for anything, look very, very bad. It puts anybody with a touch of humanity in the WH in a very awkward position. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsincity Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) On 12/05/2018 at 9:34 AM, Jingthing said: That makes no sense. McCain is not evil and he's never directly run against "trump" in any election and never will. you only have to read McCain's twitter feed & the constant warmongering to realise he is an evil character. Edited May 13, 2018 by lionsincity . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, lionsincity said: you only have to read McCain's twitter feed & the constant warmongering to realise he is an evil character. does your statement define Trump???????????? Edited May 13, 2018 by Opl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 People like to exaggerate again. it was behind closed doors. and, isn't it true? Politic is a hard business. So calm down and get over it. Case closed. Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 However, I guess when a msnbc host promoting to strangle press secretary is perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with that. It's even not worth a topic here. Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 5/12/2018 at 7:59 AM, IAMHERE said: Dropping bombs on citizens of North Vietnam? Being one of the very few that actually got shot down? The other thousands of aviators that didn't get shot down did well. Wish my daddy was a big shot commander in the Navy. <deleted>? Seriously? The USA asks people to serve on behalf of their country. The volunteers act in good faith and then you blame them? The comments were disrespectful. The handling of this situation shows the true nature of many in the administration. In public , they offer empty platitudes and surround themselves with the trappings of patriotism, but in private they denigrate, and insult those who gave their lives in the service of the country. The people who ridicule and insult are the first ones to evade and to avoid service. Your cheap comment about Mccain's father is petty. Had his father had influence over his son, the boy would have not been in active service. His father didn't help him. John McCain got where he was on his own. You seek to punish him because his father achieved something in life. Is it his fault his father did and yours did not? This will come back and bite the administration on its fat posterior. The aide should have quickly apologized and admitted to being an insolent insensitive c*nt. Sanders should have fired that aide when there was no admission of culpability. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 8 hours ago, lionsincity said: you only have to read McCain's twitter feed & the constant warmongering to realise he is an evil character. That's you interpretation. It does not justify the gutter sniping of the Sanders aide, nor of the deceitful Ms. Sanders attempt to excuse the vile comments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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