webfact Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Trump reimbursed attorney who paid porn star Stormy Daniels: disclosure By Ginger Gibson U.S. President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen arrives at his hotel in New York City, U.S., May 11, 2018. REUTERS/Brendan McDermid WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump acknowledged for the first time in an ethics disclosure released on Wednesday that he repaid more than $100,000 to former personal attorney Michael Cohen, renewing questions about Trump's ties to porn star Stormy Daniels. The disclosure https://bit.ly/2Ilug7D underscored the inconsistency of explanations by Trump and aides about a $130,000 payment made by Cohen to Daniels before the 2016 presidential election to buy her silence over an alleged sexual encounter with Trump in 2006. Signed by Trump and released by the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, the disclosure also drew comment from watchdog groups and a senior Democratic lawmaker about possible violations of campaign finance law, which requires public disclosure of expenses meant to influence the election. Common Cause, a nonpartisan watchdog group in Washington, has filed a complaint with the U.S. Federal Election Commission, claiming Trump broke the law when his campaign excluded details about the $130,000 payment in legally mandated filings. Trump's acknowledgment that he reimbursed Cohen puts the president "at the middle of all of the campaign finance violations," said Paul S. Ryan, head of litigation at Common Cause. "He knowingly and willfully caused his campaign to not disclose this expenditure, and that’s a criminal violation." The latest ethics disclosure did not describe the purpose or the recipient of the original 2016 payment to a "third party" made by Cohen, for which he was reimbursed by Trump. Cohen has acknowledged paying Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford. Also, Rudy Giuliani, recently named Trump's personal attorney, has said Trump reimbursed Cohen for the original $130,000 payment, which was made shortly before Trump's victory in the Nov. 8, 2016 presidential election. Trump had previously disputed whether he was aware of the payment by Cohen and whether he reimbursed him. In April, Trump told reporters he did not know anything about the payment. His disclosure now suggests Trump repaid Cohen last year. Trump, his campaign and Cohen have all denied any wrongdoing. The White House did not respond to requests for comment to clarify the reason for Trump's payment to Cohen. 'FUNNELED MONEY' Ethics disclosures are an annual requirement for senior federal officials and are overseen by the ethics office, a government office that provides oversight of an executive branch program to prevent and resolve conflicts of interest. David Apol, the acting director of the ethics office, said in a letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein that the original payment made by Cohen should have been disclosed in ethics documents that Trump filed in June 2017. Apol's letter was released with the Trump disclosures. Representative Elijah Cummings, top Democrat on the House of Representatives Oversight Committee, said in a statement he is pushing for the panel to investigate the payments. "President Trump was required by law to report that he ‘funneled’ money through Michael Cohen to reimburse a secret payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels, but he concealed these payments, and we still do not know why," Cummings said. CREW, a liberal-leaning watchdog group, filed a complaint with the ethics office that was referenced in Apol's letter. “The disclosure substantiates our CREW complaint that the failure to do so previously was a violation of law,” CREW’s board Chairman Norman Eisen said. “That prior failure should be reviewed by the appropriate authorities.” 'FULLY REIMBURSED' The ethics disclosure said Cohen sought reimbursement in 2017 for an expense he incurred in 2016. "Mr. Trump fully reimbursed Mr. Cohen," the disclosure report said. The payment made by Cohen was between $100,001 and $250,000 and there was no interest incurred, said the report, following the ethics office practice of reporting dollar amounts of payments and holdings in broad ranges. Cohen has publicly acknowledged paying Daniels, saying he obtained the cash through a line of credit on his home. Daniels has sued to be released from her nondisclosure agreement. In April, the Federal Bureau of Investigation raided Cohen's offices and home as part of a criminal investigation. The ethics disclosure also showed Trump received more than $25 million in income in 2017 from Mar-a-Lago, his private club in Palm Beach, Florida, and more than $15 million in income from his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. Trump spends time and vacations at both clubs and sells memberships to Mar-a-Lago. His continued ownership of the golf venues has been criticized by opponents, who say it blends personal and public business, allowing him to profit from the presidency. While Trump's annual ethics disclosure reveals information about his personal finances, it lacks details of the sort found in an income tax return. Unlike past presidents of both parties in recent decades, Trump has refused to release his tax returns. (Reporting by Ginger Gibson; additional reporting by Roberta Rampton and Jan Wolfe; editing by Kevin Drawbaugh, Jonathan Oatis and Lisa Shumaker) -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-05-17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Sounds like DT as a Billionaire playboy entrepreneur, didn't want it disclosed that he had sex with a Porn star over ten years ago. So the NDA was appropriate. A POTUS who is bashed constantly by pundits,dems ,never Trumpers and the MSM tried to hide this embarrassing moment in his life from Americans . It's disheartening that a POTUS present and past have sometimes try to hide these promiscuous tendencies. Time to keep striving to keep Americans safe and prosperous as he has been doing. Edited May 17, 2018 by riclag 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boon Mee Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 Yes he did but the salient point is no crime was committed. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: Yes he did but the salient point is no crime was committed. Decision yet to be finalised as would depend how Trump declared the payment for tax purposes / campaign funds. One thing is certain yet again Trump has proven to be a liar and lacking in moral fibre. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChidlomDweller Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 But.... Clinton! Look over there, Crooked Hillary! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChidlomDweller Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: Yes he did but the salient point is no crime was committed. The case itself doesn't bother me, but I like how it exposes the hypocrisy of conservatives, the same ones who called themselves the Moral Majority and where all honest outrage about the Lewinsky scandal in the 1990s. Funny and at the same time disgusting to see these upholders of decency twist themselves now. Another good outcome is how it exposes the fakeness of the Drain the Swamp claim, with swamp creatures in Donald Trump's orbit being exposed because of it. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/12/michael-cohen-business-donald-trump Keep digging, Mueler! The majority of Americans are behind you. Edited May 17, 2018 by ChidlomDweller 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobFord Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 He’s just a little confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Boon Mee said: Yes he did but the salient point is no crime was committed. That part we don't know yet. Seems you misread parts of the OP, among that this " Trump's acknowledgment that he reimbursed Cohen puts the president "at the middle of all of the campaign finance violations," said Paul S. Ryan, head of litigation at Common Cause. "He knowingly and willfully caused his campaign to not disclose this expenditure, and that’s a criminal violation." ". 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 Last month’s ‘Fake News’ turns into a financial declaration signed by the man who was shouting ‘Fake News’. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boon Mee said: Yes he did but the salient point is no crime was committed. No, I’d say the salient point is trump has lied through his teeth throughout this whole media storm. Edited May 17, 2018 by Bluespunk 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChidlomDweller Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, stevenl said: That part we don't know yet. Seems you misread parts of the OP, among that this " Trump's acknowledgment that he reimbursed Cohen puts the president "at the middle of all of the campaign finance violations," said Paul S. Ryan, head of litigation at Common Cause. "He knowingly and willfully caused his campaign to not disclose this expenditure, and that’s a criminal violation." ". I'm anti-Trump because I consider him a threat to democracy, think it matters that leaders aren't immoral shitbags, despise him for the way he pushed the birther and climate-change denial nonsense, (fairly) exoriated Clinton for her ties to Wall Street and then rushed to roll back most provisions of Dodd-Frank once elected, and many other things. That said, I think it's a stretch to classify this as a campaign finance issue. He'd have paid this hush money too just to keep it from his wife. Legally speaking, it may go against him in a court. My first thought is campaign finance should be about proactively communicating with the masses, and this is the exact opposite. But if I were a lawyer arguing this, I'd make the comparison with Corporate Communications departments, where keeping negatives out of the news definitely falls under their remit and budget. In other words, campaign finance isn't just about buying ads but there's a tradition for corporate communications to be about dealing with negative news too. Edited May 17, 2018 by ChidlomDweller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somtamnication Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 LOL. This house of cards is falling FAST! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ChidlomDweller said: I'm anti-Trump because I consider him a threat to democracy, think it matters that leaders aren't immoral shitbags, despise him for the way he pushed the birther and climate-change denial nonsense, (fairly) exoriated Clinton for her ties to Wall Street and then rushed to roll back most provisions of Dodd-Frank once elected, and many other things. That said, I think it's a stretch to classify this as a campaign finance issue. He'd have paid this hush money too just to keep it from his wife. Legally speaking, it may go against him in a court. My first thought is campaign finance should be about proactively communicating with the masses, and this is the exact opposite. But if I were a lawyer arguing this, I'd make the comparison with Corporate Communications departments, where keeping negatives out of the news definitely come under their remit and budget. If it was about his wife it would have been settled years ago. So I am convinced it was about the campaign, as the timing suggests. Edited May 17, 2018 by stevenl 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChidlomDweller Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: If it was about his wife it would have been settled years ago. So I am convinced it was about the campaign, as the timing suggests. Good point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Boon Mee said: Yes he did but the salient point is no crime was committed. To all of you Trump supporters; does it not even bother you one bit that the guy is a pathological liar? I mean what does he have to do/say that will open your eyes to what this guy is truly about? He's the President of the United States for gods sake yet you set him the sort of standards a guy on death row would be happy with. I mean it doesn't take much to find out just to what extent his lying is, just go to http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/ and you will see that nearly 70% of what comes out of his mouth is either completely false or mostly false. None of this bothers you? Your head of government lied throughout his campaign and continues to do so ON A DAILY BASIS and all you hear from you lot is 'lets give him a chance' or 'but the stock market......' He has gone back on his promise to 'drain the swamp' by appointing the biggest bunch of millionaires and billionaires to a cabinet ever seen in US history (that's if they stay long enough in the job). He has green lighted the oil industry to go back to their dodgy back-hander ways whilst silencing the Environmental Protection Agency by appointing their greatest critic (and climate change denier) to head it all up and just wait until he gets his hands on Dodd-Frank so that his Wall Street pals can REALLY make some cash. It's all lies, deceit and jobs for the boys but yes, by all means, give him a chance. Give him a chance to lie some more. Give him a chance to make even more obscene amounts of money for himself and his mates. Give him a chance to well and truly ruin the USA not only in the eyes of the world but for ordinary people that I assume most of you are. Open your eyes, smell the roses and stop trying to defend the indefensible. The US is a world joke now and your cognitive bias is really showing you as part of the problem and not part of the solution. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chomper Higgot Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Mueller has all the communications between Cohen and Trump, plus it is reliably reported Cohen was under a FISA wire tap. The motives for the payment are almost certainly sitting in a file at Mueller's office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Boon Mee said: Yes he did but the salient point is no crime was committed. Even for you BM that is a pretty limp wristed defense of your idol. The guy who spits ‘trust me’, ‘believe me’ every second sentence - it’s his form of Aspergers - is proven yet again to be a lying POS to the American people but more importantly, to his wife. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 The Porn star got paid ? If she paid tax on it the transaction is complete. No need to tell fibs about it. Why make an issue out of a little bit of tissue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, natway09 said: The Porn star got paid ? If she paid tax on it the transaction is complete. No need to tell fibs about it. Why make an issue out of a little bit of tissue It’s a tad more complicated than that. Hence Trump’s efforts to hide the truth of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, ChidlomDweller said: I'm anti-Trump because I consider him a threat to democracy, think it matters that leaders aren't immoral shitbags, despise him for the way he pushed the birther and climate-change denial nonsense, (fairly) exoriated Clinton for her ties to Wall Street and then rushed to roll back most provisions of Dodd-Frank once elected, and many other things. That said, I think it's a stretch to classify this as a campaign finance issue. He'd have paid this hush money too just to keep it from his wife. ... That's absurd. The TIMING shows it was definitely about the campaign. Don't be naive! Also, get real, Melania knew going in what kind of sleazy con man she was marrying. She made a deal! Edited May 17, 2018 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 thank god jfk didn't have to deal with any of this bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Boon Mee said: Yes he did but the salient point is no crime was committed. Yes there was, can't you read: "He knowingly and willfully caused his campaign to not disclose this expenditure, and that’s a criminal violation." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChidlomDweller Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 44 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Also, get real, Melania knew going in what kind of sleazy con man she was marrying. She made a deal! If she has any sense she prefers him to shoot his wad elsewhere. It's the humiliation of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 8 hours ago, riclag said: Sounds like DT as a Billionaire playboy entrepreneur, didn't want it disclosed that he had sex with a Porn star over ten years ago. So the NDA was appropriate. A POTUS who is bashed constantly by pundits,dems ,never Trumpers and the MSM tried to hide this embarrassing moment in his life from Americans . It's disheartening that a POTUS present and past have sometimes try to hide these promiscuous tendencies. Time to keep striving to keep Americans safe and prosperous as he has been doing. I suspect nobody gives a flying fig about Trump screwing porn stars (apart from his then pregnant wife Melania) but it was the fact that after he became President he lied about it. Trump is a lowlife and people are aware of that. He is also a prolific liar and people are aware of that. Openly lying when you are POTUS just embarrasses the USA even more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William C F Pierce Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Bluespunk said: No, I’d say the salient point is trump has lied through his teeth throughout this whole media storm. True. Afterall Donald Trump is no George Washington lookalike. What else do you expect from a Twitterised Dumb Blond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 A troll post has been removed. Another post containing offensive hyperbolic references has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Two things: She's not a porn star...none of them are....they are people who shag for money...theres' another name for it. Saw some interviews of voters, mostly women, who say what he does in his personal life doesn't bother them at all. I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: Two things: She's not a porn star...none of them are....they are people who shag for money...theres' another name for it. Saw some interviews of voters, mostly women, who say what he does in his personal life doesn't bother them at all. I would agree. How long have you been marooned on that island.? In the English speaking world of today, "porn star" is a widely used and understood term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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