Pattaya losing war on trash as residents block dump site

[Rimmer]

Pattaya losing war on trash as residents block dump site

PATTAYA:--Pattaya’s proposal to start dumping garbage near a Jomtien Beach arena hit a brick wall after residents got a whiff of the stinky plan.

 

Administrators had suggested to neighbors of the city’s overflowing Sukhumvit Soi 3 rubbish-transfer facility that the excess could be stored on vacant land near the Eastern National Indoor Sports Stadium. But word soon spread to Soi Chaiyapruek 2 residents who responded with a vehement “not in my backyard” protest.

 

On May 15, emergency contractor Ruamkha Advance Tech International began hauling away excess garbage to a landfill in Rayong. About 100 tons had been removed by Tuesday, but the site gets 400-plus tons a day, so Ruamkha’s work hardly is a permanent solution.

 

Following meetings with East Pattaya and Jomtien Community leaders May 9 and 13, Mayor Anan Charoen­chasri admitted defeat, dealing another setback to Pattaya’s losing battle against trash.

 

On Tuesday May 15, emergency contractor Ruamkha Advance Tech International began hauling away about 100 tons of excess garbage to a landfill in Rayong.

 

The rubbish war truly has reached a tipping point: Pattaya has lost use of its former dump in Khao Maikaew, the Interior Ministry has barred the city from moving garbage dumped at the Soi 3 facility to other locations, the transfer facility is over capacity, garbage bins around the city are being left uncollected and city hall has bungled the contracting process for a new trash hauler.

 

The anger at this month’s hearings was palpable.

 

Read More: http://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-losing-war-trash-residents-block-dump-site-210230

 

 

-- © Copyright Pattaya Mail 2018-05-20

[petermik]

The blind are leading the blind............

[Basil B]

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n 1996 Veolia built a state-of-the-art Energy Recovery Facility (ERF) in Tyseley, just to the east of Birmingham City Centre, which takes 350,000 tonnes of Birmingham’s rubbish each year and converts it into electricity.

https://www.veolia.co.uk/birmingham/facilities/our-sites/energy-recovery

[ThreeEyedRaven]

If there was a global award for incompetency, I am pretty sure I know which country would take Gold.

They have had many years to plan for this, so there is absolutely no excuse.

I am pretty sure the Mayors house will have a fairly size-able backyard.

Maybe he will work harder for a solution if they dump the excess there in the meantime.

At the end of the day, it is his responsibility after all.

Edited May 20, 2018 by ThreeEyedRaven

[Get Real]

But why? Where is the problem? They are dumping everything else in that area of Thailand?
 

• Criminals come in floods to stay and do their illegal activities.
• The city are pouring black waste water into the beach.
• A major amount of sex and drug addicts infest the city.
   

I just don´t get it. What´s the fuzz and the problem with some garbage? At least they put it close to the other sources of negative infestation.

Just hope the public can understand that this is a godd solution. All trash, shit and problem at the same place. Splendid!

 

 

Edited May 20, 2018 by Get Real

[grumbleweed]

Oh dear! if you think the beach is bad now, get ready!

Although you can't blame city hall. This problem should've had the decency to go away when it was ignored

 

[jacko45k]

Coincidentally as I drove down the Railway Line  Bypass Rd Northwards last night a huge double truck pulled of from the trash collection area in Nong Plalai,  obviously loaded up with smelly trash. My Mrs says she believes it goes off to dump it in Rayong. I was wondering how many of these trucks they had (I bet the one) and how often it has to travel, particularly as this was a Sunday evening. 

Pattaya needs to invest and get planning before it kills it's golden goose. 

[ragpicker]

 Infrastructure is not in the Thai language.  It can only get worse. 

[skorp13]

You wouldn't think drainage and landfills could be that complicated but leave it to the local brian trust!

[Sakeopete]

"city hall has bungled the contracting process" can be interpreted as city haul asked for to much graft.

[RichardColeman]

I don'

1 hour ago, Get Real said:

 

• A major amount of sex and drug addicts infest the city.

 

 

Oi ! Putting us sex junkies on the same page as druggies is a bit far fetched !

[Lupatria]

14 hours ago, Basil B said:

https://www.veolia.co.uk/birmingham/facilities/our-sites/energy-recovery

Regarding the costs of such facility. How much would that be in submarines, armored anti riot vehicles and Thai Niyom Yangyeun activities?

[a977]

12 minutes ago, Sakeopete said:

"city hall has bungled the contracting process" can be interpreted as city haul asked for to much graft.

The tender process should have been put out in September 2017 one month before expiry of original tender, then maybe they would not have this problem. This is  what you get when a friend of a friend of a friend who knows someone who has a friend whose friend has a relation on a council who think they can do a job in 2018 with 1990's equipment and ideas. Was following this particular truck the other day trying to avoid all the liquid that was coming out of the truck a real joke, any other country the contractor would have environmental department down on them like a tonne of bricks. Regarding the Birmingham facility what a way for a council to make money selling electricity back to the PEA.  Oops sorry this is army council got to get priorities right

[waders123]

Singapore’s Innovative Waste-Disposal System operates a power generation and recycles 98% of the city-state’s solid waste; this is all done at a PROFIT.  Now the City of Singapore is without trash problems and is making a profit on the electrical power they produce and increasing their land mass, (profit there too by selling the land), with inert materials after incineration that is environmentally green. 

Maybe Pattaya could create a similar model to fit Pattaya's population size and needs.   In the future, Pattaya could expand into phase II and began, contracting for profit, solid waste from other cities nearby to make more revenue and with the increased waste, produce more power to sell.  It could be a win-win situation.  But it will take some high power people to start the ball rolling.  

Edited May 21, 2018 by waders123

[uffe123]

Unfortunately it will all go into the ocean at night when no one is looking. Thats what they are doing with the sewage.

[Get Real]

48 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I don'

Oi ! Putting us sex junkies on the same page as druggies is a bit far fetched !

 

[Sydebolle]

I've been living on the dark side for 10+ years; the nightly stench of burnt garbage around Mabtato is unbearable. I just wonder how all those dwellers handle the smog - nightly, as I said - living in those tin dumps next to construction sites or are they not allowed to breathe fresh air?

Khon Thai and their ignorance at its very best :-(   How sad! 

[captspectre]

Pssst! I got this from one of my Intellegent operatives posing as a samlor driver,  this problem will be solved when taksin gets back! 

 

[Beats56]

They are trucking garbage in my home country from Toronto to Michigan for a number of years.

Hundreds of trucks rolling down the highway every day. The problem is they are  causing a lot of damage and wear on highways. The.surface has been replaced a couple of times.

There is more cost to trucking garbage than meets the eye.

Edited May 21, 2018 by Beats56
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[BEngBKK]

Thailand.... Hub of smell (literally)

I guess we just have to learn to use the smell sticks/bottles like the thais...

[BernieOnTour]

1 hour ago, waders123 said:

Singapore’s Innovative Waste-Disposal System operates a power generation and recycles 98% of the city-state’s solid waste; this is all done at a PROFIT.  Now the City of Singapore is without trash problems and is making a profit on the electrical power they produce and increasing their land mass, (profit there too by selling the land), with inert materials after incineration that is environmentally green. 

Maybe Pattaya could create a similar model to fit Pattaya's population size and needs.   In the future, Pattaya could expand into phase II and began, contracting for profit, solid waste from other cities nearby to make more revenue and with the increased waste, produce more power to sell.  It could be a win-win situation.  But it will take some high power people to start the ball rolling.  

Theoretically: Yes, good idea.

Practically: No - in Pattaya, a win-win situation is defined as: how much do I "earn" from that project.

[thaibeachlovers]

I don't remember a time when things were as bad in Pattaya as they are now. In a way, I hope it gets so bad that even the Chinese tour groups stop coming and the Pattaya economy collapses. That is apparently the only way anything will ever get done. It seems that as long as the tour buses keep arriving nothing is going to change.

[fake farang]

1 hour ago, waders123 said:

Singapore’s Innovative Waste-Disposal System operates a power generation and recycles 98% of the city-state’s solid waste; this is all done at a PROFIT.  .....

Maybe Pattaya could create a similar model to fit Pattaya's population size and needs.   .....

But this requires brain

[phuketlive]

What a shame this city when you see how much money bars, clubs, restaurants and hotels make but it's a dirty city full of trash...

[PerkinsCuthbert]

Middle class nimbyism has finally arrived in Thailand.

[peperobi]

Is already the time to think how to stop the production of garbage....

[digger70]

2 hours ago, waders123 said:

Singapore’s Innovative Waste-Disposal System operates a power generation and recycles 98% of the city-state’s solid waste; this is all done at a PROFIT.  Now the City of Singapore is without trash problems and is making a profit on the electrical power they produce and increasing their land mass, (profit there too by selling the land), with inert materials after incineration that is environmentally green. 

Maybe Pattaya could create a similar model to fit Pattaya's population size and needs.   In the future, Pattaya could expand into phase II and began, contracting for profit, solid waste from other cities nearby to make more revenue and with the increased waste, produce more power to sell.  It could be a win-win situation.  But it will take some high power people to start the ball rolling.  

Why would they do that?    This would make Sence,,,,,,,,, Now that's a dirty word and can't be used ,,,,,

[SOTIRIOS]

.....'Advance Tech International'.......(the best one I have read in a long time...)

[lanista]

This is the problem with mass tourism  because the inadequate infrastructure cant cope.

Things will only get worse with millions more Chinese and Asians expeced to visit Chonburi soon.

[Golden Triangle]

Pattaya, a cess pit in every sense of the word, me and the Mrs went to the Expo at the outdoor stadium on Chaiyapruk (spl) yesterday, not even a 10 minute journey from where we live, the amount of trash dumped at the side of the road was mind boggling.  ?