Trump says Mexico will eventually pay for border wall

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Big sign the entire "trump" ranting about walls and Mexico paying for it is just a big racist DEMAGOGUE game, consider the action his regime has taken against large EMPLOYERS of illegals. What's bupkis is Espanol? 

You could try to fit the word "Apartheid" into your rants against Trump .

That word always gets peoples attention  

[observer90210]

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

 

No they won't, life will go on. And, lazy Americans will take over........eventually.

I'm sure Pink Floyd would not approve...for the Wall  !!  ?

[bristolboy]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Big sign the entire "trump" ranting about walls and Mexico paying for it is just a big racist DEMAGOGUE game, consider the action his regime has taken against large EMPLOYERS of illegals. What's bupkis is Espanol? 

Yes, it's interesting to note that the E-verify system which 8 states use to verify the legal status of workers that was so widely touted by Trump for adoption by the Federal Government had made zero progress at the federal level since Trump got elected.

[Get Real]

52 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm standing tall, Don't know about you?? Seems the libs are running scared.

Oh dear! Now we are trying the scare game. Wow! You really do not consider looking at what he do to the common individual in the states, as well as the pot he stir up all over the world?
He´s just an overgrown baby, that managed to reach wealth by having top players around him. That he more or less today have been running over like a bulldozer.

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, Get Real said:

Oh dear! Now we are trying the scare game. Wow! You really do not consider looking at what he do to the common individual in the states, as well as the pot he stir up all over the world?
He´s just an overgrown baby, that managed to reach wealth by having top players around him. That he more or less today have been running over like a bulldozer.

Although this is a thread about the wall in Mexico , this isnt  a general give Trump abuse thread

[stud858]

And nothing to refer to in the first place. Any other imaginary issues you want to share with us?

in reply 

No, it was just the one imagining that Trump would have an avenue to get Mexico to pay for the wall. ie. via Taxes. I can't imagine any other way. 

 

Edited May 30, 2018 by stud858

[Jingthing]

There is one way "the wall" (more or less, mostly less) might actually get built. If "trump" says he will sign a clean DACA bill in exchange for funding his big EGO wall, then that would pass congress. But he's made it clear that's not good enough for him. He needs all his racist, fascist general anti LEGAL immigration package as well. So the smart money is on NEVER. Not even going mention the Mexico part. "trump" doesn't even believe in that insane demand. He made that clear in a conversation with the Mexican leader. He just wanted some empty LIP SERVICE from Mexico not defying him to preserve his face, nothing actually REAL. Mexico of course refused to play his game and good on them for that. The whole wall B.S. issue is just for red meat for his rabid RACIST base. 

 

The stupid part of all this is that there is massive bipartisan support for beefing up border security in sane ways short of the not great ego "trump" literal wall. That would include repairing existing walls and fences, building limited new ones in tactical areas (mostly urban), funding staff, and of course improved technology for a "virtual" wall. But that's too sensible for the demagogue. He couldn't milk something sensible to his racist base. 

Edited May 30, 2018 by Jingthing

[Get Real]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Although this is a thread about the wall in Mexico , this isnt  a general give Trump abuse thread

Yes, but due to that he is involved he must be considered to be relevant in the conversation. 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Yes, but due to that he is involved he must be considered to be relevant in the conversation. 

Love him or hate him, "trump" is the most talked about person in the history of the planet. Yes, be afraid for our species and planet!

[Chomper Higgot]

This wall, is it even possible to dig the foundations before the midterms?

[mlmcleod]

I suspect that Trump will die long before the Mexicans pay for a wall!

[Jingthing]

Just now, mlmcleod said:

I suspect that Trump will die long before the Mexicans pay for a wall!

That's a very safe bet as they NEVER will. It's crazy to think they ever would. But that's "trump" base for you -- kind of CRAZY. 

[Bluespunk]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday criticized Mexico for not helping to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into the United States and repeated his campaign promise that Mexico will pay for building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

 

"In the end, Mexico is going to pay for the wall," Trump told supporters

"In the end, Mexico is going to pay for the wall," Trump told  lied to his supporters

[sanemax]

2 hours ago, observer90210 said:

No more illegal mexican immigrants in the USA !?!! ?...Gracious!!..all the small Deli Sandwich, tacco-tortilla restaurants, cleaning services, gardners, fast-foods, garages, budget laundries, mini supermarkets and many more services offering totally crashed rates,  will go out of business due to lack of manpower !!

Donald could get them working visas, make them pay tax to pay for the wall and then they will have to raise their taco prices and thus compete with all the people working legally .

   It may also encourage Americans to lose weight .

Everyones a winner

[samran]

8 hours ago, sanemax said:

They could be forced to pay .

Putting a tax on all goods coming from Mexico ?

Charging people to use the border ?

 

Just goes to show how easily led the trumpites are.

 

As others have said, US consumers will be paying the tax (presumably with the extra dollars they have supposedly got from the recent ‘tax cuts’ - read share buyback pumping scheme). US consmers cost of living will go up. 

 

But no matter, apparently...

 

The fact that you think this is somehow the Mexicans are paying for it just goes to show how gullible the average trump voter is.

 

 

[sanemax]

Just now, samran said:

Just goes to show how easily led the trumpites are.As others have said, US consumers will be paying the tax (presumably with the extra dollars they have supposedly got from the recent ‘tax cuts’ - read share buyback pumping scheme). US consmers cost of living will go up. 

But no matter, apparently...

The fact that you think this is somehow the Mexicans are paying for it just goes to show how gullible the average trump voter is.

Do you know for certain who will be paying for the wall ?

You seem to be stating where the money will be coming from, with a high degree of certainty .

    Have you spoken with the U,S Gov and have they told you how the wall will be funded ? 

   If you are uncertain as to where the funds will be coming from, you have no right to label myself as being gullible , for SUGGESTING where the money may be coming from .

   Trump says that the Mexicans will pay for the wall .

You say that they wont .

Donald v Samran

[Morch]

20 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Do you know for certain who will be paying for the wall ?

You seem to be stating where the money will be coming from, with a high degree of certainty .

    Have you spoken with the U,S Gov and have they told you how the wall will be funded ? 

   If you are uncertain as to where the funds will be coming from, you have no right to label myself as being gullible , for SUGGESTING where the money may be coming from .

   Trump says that the Mexicans will pay for the wall .

You say that they wont .

Donald v Samran

 

Donald vs Almost Anyone isn't much of a dilemma, when it comes to credibility. Donald says a whole lot of things, a staggering precedence of being incorrect, contradicting previous statements or outright lies.

 

[muffy]

Mexico will pay , one way or another . NAFTA

[attrayant]

25 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Do you know for certain who will be paying for the wall ? You seem to be stating where the money will be coming from, with a high degree of certainty .

 

No.  You didn't understand the poster you quoted.  He (and many others) are saying that IF an import tax is levied on Mexican goods, that tax will have to be paid for by the Americans who would be buying those imports.  That's a pretty straightforward observation.

 

25 minutes ago, sanemax said:

If you are uncertain as to where the funds will be coming from, you have no right to label myself as being gullible , for SUGGESTING where the money may be coming from.

 

No again.  Everyone is uncertain about where funding could come from.  That doesn't mean we can't ridicule absurd speculations put forward.

 

25 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Trump says that the Mexicans will pay for the wall .  You say that they wont .

 

Mexico also says they won't: Another Message for Donald Trump from Former Mexican President Vicente Fox

 

 

[stud858]

land mines placed strategically is better than a wall.  much cheaper and effective. who in their sane mind would traverse a mine field?

 

[Jingthing]

land mines placed strategically is better than a wall.  much cheaper and effective. who in their sane mind would traverse a mine field?
 

That's an evil idea but it sounds like the kind of thing that "trump" supporters would cheer for at his fascist style rallies. The US and Mexico aren't at war so sorry landmines are probably out. In any case the people crossing that border already know they're risking their lives because of the extreme desert conditions in many areas.

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[samran]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Do you know for certain who will be paying for the wall ?

You seem to be stating where the money will be coming from, with a high degree of certainty .

    Have you spoken with the U,S Gov and have they told you how the wall will be funded ? 

   If you are uncertain as to where the funds will be coming from, you have no right to label myself as being gullible , for SUGGESTING where the money may be coming from .

   Trump says that the Mexicans will pay for the wall .

You say that they wont .

Donald v Samran

Gawd, I was analysing your own words. Yet you don’t even realise it. 

[billd766]

48 minutes ago, stud858 said:

land mines placed strategically is better than a wall.  much cheaper and effective. who in their sane mind would traverse a mine field?

 

 

Oddly enough there is the Ottowa treaty about land mines as indiscriminate weapons of war. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty

 

The Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction, known informally as the Ottawa Treaty, the Anti-Personnel Mine Ban Convention, or often simply the Mine Ban Treaty, aims at eliminating anti-personnel landmines(AP-mines) around the world. To date, there are 164 state parties to the treaty. One state (the Marshall Islands) has signed but not ratified the treaty, while 32 UN states, including the United States, Russia, China and India are non-signatories, making a total of 33 United Nations states not party.^[1]

 

^{Mexico has ratifed the treaty. The USA has not.}

 

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Ottawa_Treaty}

[Becker]

2 hours ago, mlmcleod said:

I suspect that Trump will die long before the Mexicans pay for a wall!

In that case I hope the wall goes up early next week!

[Tchooptip]

It's quite true we even know the photo of the prototype of the wall
sent by the Mexican President to the White House

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, stud858 said:

land mines placed strategically is better than a wall.  much cheaper and effective. who in their sane mind would traverse a mine field?

 

Maybe the same lunatics who would plant one?

[Becker]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Trump says that the Mexicans will pay for the wall .

You say that they wont .

Donald v Samran

You MUST be kidding! Samran vs a proven compulsive serial liar?

 

[sanemax]

12 minutes ago, Becker said:

You MUST be kidding! Samran vs a proven compulsive serial liar?

 

Do you believe that Samran has more knowledge than Donald in regards to where the funds for the wall are going to come from ?

[Morch]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Do you believe that Samran has more knowledge than Donald in regards to where the funds for the wall are going to come from ?

 

Is this a trick question?

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

Is this a trick question?

Its a straightforward question .

Is the TV poster called Samran more likely to know how the wall will be funded  than Trump is likely to know ?

  Donald has the ability to force Mexico to pay for the wall (one way or another), Samran has no idea what he is talking about and is just making things up