Artisi Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 you should never outlive your children ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graeme64 Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, happy chappie said: what is even more sad is how the father has been left to beg for money to bring him back to Scotland and bury him because he was happy go lucky and never had £30-40 travel insurance.over £9000 has already been raised and what's wrong with a cremation in Thailand and ashes posted back.myself I'm getting a bit fed up with these stories of no insurance. you might want to change your 'handle' does not seem to fit any more. RIP to the lad and condolences to the poor bloody father - burying 2 of your children in separate incidences..... Edited June 7, 2018 by graeme64 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 13 hours ago, happy chappie said: what is even more sad is how the father has been left to beg for money to bring him back to Scotland and bury him because he was happy go lucky and never had £30-40 travel insurance.over £9000 has already been raised and what's wrong with a cremation in Thailand and ashes posted back.myself I'm getting a bit fed up with these stories of no insurance. This does not apply regarding this topic BUT over 65s are refused insurance here, Liability. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, ginjag said: This does not apply regarding this topic BUT over 65s are refused insurance here, Liability. Health insurance over 70 from AIA, but accident insurance continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Van Caeyzeele Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 R.I.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 He may want to see his Son, one last time . And for his Son to be buried, rather than cremated Those who have the money can afford to be fussy. Those who dont generally have to adjust their desires accordingly. He could, for example, fly here himself and have a burial done here at much lower cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, jossthaifarang said: Travel insurance should be made compulsory, included in the cost of the flight tickets. That said, RIP another young life taken. "Travel insurance should be made compulsory, included in the cost of the flight tickets" Are you real? A simplistic approach to what is a not a simplistic problem. Sure, the young and healthy can better access travel insurance and should do so BUT the the elderly (and those who have particular health problems) cannot. Unfortunately travel insurance from airlines is generally very specific to airline travel and those provided 'free' by credit card companies have their limitations. As another poster has said, pay for cremation and have the ashes flown home. When asked by friends who travel, I have suggested, CHECK carefully (and UNDERSTAND) what you are covered for, but just as important understand what you're NOT covered for. All this pre-supposes your not filthy rich enough to not worry about insurance (or you know Scotty - 'Beam me up Mr Scot'). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHYWHY Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 R.I.P such a tragic loss to his family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 13 hours ago, happy chappie said: what is even more sad is how the father has been left to beg for money to bring him back to Scotland and bury him because he was happy go lucky and never had £30-40 travel insurance.over £9000 has already been raised and what's wrong with a cremation in Thailand and ashes posted back.myself I'm getting a bit fed up with these stories of no insurance. When you were young did you take out travel insurance if you went overseas? Honest answer please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aupee Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 14 hours ago, happy chappie said: what is even more sad is how the father has been left to beg for money to bring him back to Scotland and bury him because he was happy go lucky and never had £30-40 travel insurance.over £9000 has already been raised and what's wrong with a cremation in Thailand and ashes posted back.myself I'm getting a bit fed up with these stories of no insurance. But then you have wonderful hind sight, plenty of money no empathy for those who are running their lives on a shoestring, and without the latter maybe you lack some basic humanity for others and you just plain smug and arrogant maybe you have been in Thailand too long and caught the me me me syndrome which in English translates to f....k you Jack I'm alright 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithpa Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 10 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Only a 10 day holiday. Shame no details have been provided around why he died It is none of our business the reasons for his death. And telling the dead to RIP is rather pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 My father lost a son aged 22 ( I was 19 at the time ) and I saw first hand the devastating effect it had on him ( and me ). The father should not be punished anymore for his sons error in not taking out travel insurance, his wishes should be honoured and the money raised should be used to return the body and laid to rest next to his sister. ( of course this is only my heartfelt opinion ) RIP Joe and condolences to John , family and friends . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithpa Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Aupee said: But then you have wonderful hind sight, plenty of money no empathy for those who are running their lives on a shoestring, and without the latter maybe you lack some basic humanity for others and you just plain smug and arrogant maybe you have been in Thailand too long and caught the me me me syndrome which in English translates to f....k you Jack I'm alright Im with you chappie.It is those who live their lives without any thought for the consequences to those left behind should they meet their death. If a person cant afford travel ins., they cant afford to travel. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 what is even more sad is how the father has been left to beg for money to bring him back to Scotland and bury him because he was happy go lucky and never had £30-40 travel insurance.over £9000 has already been raised and what's wrong with a cremation in Thailand and ashes posted back.myself I'm getting a bit fed up with these stories of no insurance.That’s ok. You don’t have to contribute. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moir Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 14 hours ago, happy chappie said: what is even more sad is how the father has been left to beg for money to bring him back to Scotland and bury him because he was happy go lucky and never had £30-40 travel insurance.over £9000 has already been raised and what's wrong with a cremation in Thailand and ashes posted back.myself I'm getting a bit fed up with these stories of no insurance. Well don't read them!!! Even when you have insurance they will always try ways of getting out of paying no matter what the situation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, keithpa said: Im with you chappie.It is those who live their lives without any thought for the consequences to those left behind should they meet their death. If a person cant afford travel ins., they cant afford to travel. Not a good analogy - you're driving and get killed by another careless driver - then you should not be driving? Stretching a point I know, but there always risks associated with living. Certainly try and minimise risks, whever you can, but you can never eliminate risk. "Don't be afraid of death, be afraid of an unlived life. You don't have to live forever, you just have to live!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 No parent should ever have to bury their child. Such tragedy. Two of their kids. What can one say? He looked like a decent chap. Wonder what could have happened to him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, KittenKong said: Those who have the money can afford to be fussy. Those who dont generally have to adjust their desires accordingly. He could, for example, fly here himself and have a burial done here at much lower cost. He does not need to as his funding is going to cover the return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 21 hours ago, off road pat said: R.I.P. always so sad to lose a child ... To lose two is devastating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millcx Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 hours ago, jossthaifarang said: Travel insurance should be made compulsory, included in the cost of the flight tickets. That said, RIP another young life taken. 100% agreed ... A compulsory amount should be added to flights ... You pay more for a packet of Marlboro Lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 It is none of our business the reasons for his death. And telling the dead to RIP is rather pointless.Plonker, its a forum so like all news reporting of people's death there will be interest why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: When you were young did you take out travel insurance if you went overseas? Honest answer please. 2 times ive missed out on insurance and paid the price.once scooter crash that they wouldn't pay for 250,000b so I stuck the lot on my credit cards and worked and paid it off.2nd time a lung infection 250,000b and my yearly insurance had just run out so my fault again.this time I borrowed the money and sold my flat in the uk and paid it back.a holiday here would cost around the £2,000 mark so what's wrong with spending £30 to have a trip covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Aupee said: But then you have wonderful hind sight, plenty of money no empathy for those who are running their lives on a shoestring, and without the latter maybe you lack some basic humanity for others and you just plain smug and arrogant maybe you have been in Thailand too long and caught the me me me syndrome which in English translates to f....k you Jack I'm alright If I was running my life on a shoestring the last place you would find me is partying in bkk.if it makes you feel better then donate some cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 hours ago, sanemax said: He may want to see his Son, one last time . And for his Son to be buried, rather than cremated Yes I understand that but beggars can't be choosers.i had a mate from my city die in Pattaya from DVT,no insurance,no mum or dad.he had a paupers cremation and a couple of mates buried his ashes out at sea.none of these begging sites were around then.the last go fund me on tv was the woman who's kids fell from the balcony and her dad got a new motor bike and she was doing yabba and run off with 2 million baht of the donation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggo Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 hours ago, KittenKong said: Good question. It would be much cheaper than flying a body all the way to Scotland, and much more sensible, though the £9000 raised would easily cover that also. Never find the cause of his passing in the Ashes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Nip said: Your clearly blessed with Thai style empathy and a poor sense of what it is to be human. I hope you donated then.nah didn't think you did.its cheaper to be a keyboard warrior. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritkaew Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Nothing more worse then losing your kids. I would give my live for my own kids.. Hope you find some power to live whit this tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Kadilo said: That’s ok. You don’t have to contribute. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app You can contribute for me if you like.50,000 will do nicely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spectra112 Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 17 hours ago, happy chappie said: what is even more sad is how the father has been left to beg for money to bring him back to Scotland and bury him because he was happy go lucky and never had £30-40 travel insurance.over £9000 has already been raised and what's wrong with a cremation in Thailand and ashes posted back.myself I'm getting a bit fed up with these stories of no insurance. Such a shame for you being fed up. Some one has lost a child have a bit of respect 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, lvr181 said: Not a good analogy - you're driving and get killed by another careless driver - then you should not be driving? Stretching a point I know, but there always risks associated with living. Certainly try and minimise risks, whever you can, but you can never eliminate risk. "Don't be afraid of death, be afraid of an unlived life. You don't have to live forever, you just have to live!!" We are not talking about how this man died.we are talking about a person who's come to Thailand with no travel insurance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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