BREAKING NEWS Fifth boy RESCUED from Tham Luang

[chrisinth]

6 minutes ago, ttrd said:

61,5% of the mission Successfully Completed in just 2 days - Superb!

61.5% of the mission successfully completed, agreed, working great and running smoothly. Please let it continue until absolute completion.

 

But I think everyone would agree that this isn't over until the entire operation is wrapped up and all the divers and support personnel are out of the system as well. That's when I'll be happiest for sure...............

[evadgib]

A spokesman for the British Cave Diving Council (in UK but in contact with his 7 strong team on site) explained on ITV this morning that they had suggested moving the fittest/healthiest kids first for a number of reasons inc allowing the remainder more time to prepare and to boost their confidence knowing others were out.

 

He also made clear that the ultimate decision was down to the Thai Govt and medics on the ground.

Edited July 9, 2018 by evadgib

[Kadilo]

1 minute ago, Spidey said:

Why would you put them in isolation if they are in secondary shock? Immune systems will be fine, they've been properly fed and watered for the last week. Only problem is inactivity due to being perched on a ledge for all this time. Like a bunch of caged tigers!

Going by the past weeks events, I’m convinced that whatever the reason it will be for the best interests of the lads. 

[canuckamuck]

6 minutes ago, Spidey said:

No we aren't. Have been fed since they were found. Also Australian medic has been with them for the last few days. I'm sure that his priority would have been to ensure that they receive the appropriate nourishment. We are talking about a group of fit young boys, after a day of rest, the best thing for them would to be out in the fresh air, kicking a ball about in the hospital grounds.

Kids, especially Thai kids are remarkably resilient.

Lol you haven't seen the Chiang Rai hospital then.The grounds are made entirely of traffic.

[Peterw42]

Raining like a typhoon in Pattaya at the moment, I will be very happy for the storms to remain here at not move north.

 

Edited July 9, 2018 by Peterw42

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

Going by the past weeks events, I’m convinced that whatever the reason it will be for the best interests of the lads. 

I'm convinced it will be done in the best interests of the government.

[chrisinth]

1 minute ago, Spidey said:

Why would you put them in isolation if they are in secondary shock? Immune systems will be fine, they've been properly fed and watered for the last week. Only problem is inactivity due to being perched on a ledge for all this time. Like a bunch of caged tigers!

They will be observed for signs of secondary shock, not necessarily be in a state of shock.

[Kadilo]

1 minute ago, Spidey said:

I'm convinced it will be done in the best interests of the government.

That’s where we differ. I’m not looking for a reason to be negative. 

[ttrd]

13 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

But are they air tanks or oxygen tanks?

Can you fill your tank with pure oxygen?

No! Oxygen becomes rapidly toxic at depth – prolonged exposure to pure oxygen below a few metres can kill you. It is not an appropriate scuba tank gas mixture. Technical divers use pure oxygen on carefully-calculated decompression dives, but this is beyond the scope of recreational diving and should not be attempted. Oxygen is also highly reactive and can make other substances flammable. Safety training is necessary to work with pure oxygen.

 

http://www.elitedivingagency.com/articles/scuba-tank-gas-mixture-divers-use/

Edited July 9, 2018 by ttrd

[Dumbastheycome]

3 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

It is not unlike Thai medical practice to be overly fretful/cautious.  Look at their rules regarding simple blood donation, for example - full of completely unnecessary restrictions and (frankly pointless) precautions. And here, they are confronted with a completely new situation, quite likely with the  Command Post making starkly clear that under no circumstances is anything to be allowed to go wrong now.

 

I agree it is unnecessary but I doubt anything sinister or ulterior behind it.

Very true. Unlike  the  public expectations  of them immediately being   sent  happily  off  with  parents and  extended  family . Given the intensity  of international coverage it would be ridiculous  to simply  wave them  goodbye into the grasp of "media" just  for  starters. Perhaps  aside   from  some  cautionary   quarantine/ medical  assessment there  may be some  psychological  assessment/preparations.  Post traumatic  shock  is a reality especially  when considering  not  only  the initial entrapment but  the method  of escape. 

Maybe not so unnecessary but agreed is not sinister or  ulterior.

[DavCurtis]

4 more boys out of the cave according to Aljazeera, reporters reporting live from Cave entrance and Hospital where the boys are being treated.

[BEVUP]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Al J says it's over for the day, so 8 out. As I said, probably only enough air for 4 trips, but what does that mean for the coach? Another night in the cave?

Yes

Because tomorrow they will do 4 & then the Doc / coach & others will come out 

[tukkytuktuk]

[Lampang2]

4 minutes ago, BEVUP said:

Yes

Because tomorrow they will do 4 & then the Doc / coach & others will come out 

aha

 

was thinking they will do 5 tomorrow and save the docs etc another day

 

[Sheryl]

@onlyalizt 2m2 minutes ago

The chopper landed. The 8th boy is about to reach Chiang Rai Hospital.

[Sheryl]

Bickering posts removed, please knock it off.

 

Perhaos focus instead on rejoicing at the good news so far, with the rest of us. 8 out of 12 boys safe.

[tukkytuktuk]

Just posted on the Thai Navy Seals facebook page.

https://m.facebook.com/ThaiSEAL/

 

[ttrd]

5 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Bickering posts removed, please knock it off.

 

Perhaos focus instead on rejoicing at the good news so far, with the rest of us. 8 out of 12 boys safe.

...pluss no 13 - their Coach...:)

Edited July 9, 2018 by ttrd

[toofarnorth]

8.35 about 20k from the caves south and just got in from the local night bazaar , 3 helicopters have flown over in the past 20 mins , must be all good news.

[JAG]

9 minutes ago, tukkytuktuk said:

Just posted on the Thai Navy Seals facebook page.

https://m.facebook.com/ThaiSEAL/

 

What a splendid graphic representation of the spirit of international cooperation which has marked this rescue operation..

[KiChakayan]

23 minutes ago, ttrd said:

Can you fill your tank with pure oxygen?

No! Oxygen becomes rapidly toxic at depth – prolonged exposure to pure oxygen below a few metres can kill you. It is not an appropriate scuba tank gas mixture. Technical divers use pure oxygen on carefully-calculated decompression dives, but this is beyond the scope of recreational diving and should not be attempted. Oxygen is also highly reactive and can make other substances flammable. Safety training is necessary to work with pure oxygen.

 

http://www.elitedivingagency.com/articles/scuba-tank-gas-mixture-divers-use/

Actually you can if you don't dive deeper than 6 meters. When I was young special ops  used it in "closed cycle" apparatus to blow up ships or installations behind ennemi lines. Obvious benefit of this type of gear is the absence of bubbles.. I guess that our days the young ones use some more modern gear.

[balo]

"The four rescued boys are doing well in Chiang Rai hospital, says rescue chief Narongsak at a news conference. This morning they were hungry and requested for spicy basil pork."

 

That's the best news all day , spicy Thai food will make sure the boys stay healthy . 

  

[Lacessit]

Quite interesting Australian media is reporting progress faster than TV. The situation seems to have captured attention world-wide. It will be a great result if everyone can get out safely.

[ttrd]

5 minutes ago, balo said:

"The four rescued boys are doing well in Chiang Rai hospital, says rescue chief Narongsak at a news conference. This morning they were hungry and requested for spicy basil pork."

 

That's the best news all day , spicy Thai food will make sure the boys stay healthy . 

  

A promising sign! 

[Sheryl]

The helio traffic in CR may also have to do with Prayut's visit as he is apparently in the city now

 

@analysisnytimes 7m7 minutes ago

What we know so far:

[RickBradford]

This is a graphic from ChannelNewsAsia. Please don't reply with BS like "How do they know that's accurate? ", because I don't know, but I assume they've done their research.

 

 

[Sheryl]

Bickering/flames removed and, in the interests of all the members who are likely to read through this thread tonight and tomorrow morning seeking info on the rescue, I also removed a number containing only light hearted banter. Nothing wrong with that per se,  but it is annoying to those who want to read the already long thread to get updated on events. 

[lionsincity]

seems to me there are more bodies coming out in ambulances than there are kids........some of these rescuers needing medical attention perhaps

[ttrd]

15 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

This is a graphic from ChannelNewsAsia. Please don't reply with BS like "How do they know that's accurate? ", because I don't know, but I assume they've done their research.

 

 

The number of boys listed as located at Pattaya Beach is hopefully not accurate….

Edited July 9, 2018 by ttrd

[chickenslegs]

4 minutes ago, lionsincity said:

seems to me there are more bodies coming out in ambulances than there are kids........some of these rescuers needing medical attention perhaps

I was thinking the same thing yesterday when there were at least 6 reports of ambulances leaving the site.

Seeing the videos of the dozens of men hiking and wading through the caves, carrying cylinders and other kit, it would be no surprise if some of the rescuers were suffering from exhaustion.