scorecard Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: The coach is an adult surely he can be interviewed. I think all of thrm should talk about their experiences as it will help them to proces it instead of be silent! Do you say that with any professional knowledge and experience in psychiatry and specifically in the area of PTSD? Edited July 21, 2018 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 44 minutes ago, Lupatria said: As a former editor I always kept my personal professional ethics above acting like a vulture. However, those slamming the media should likewise slam the parents to fork in for an interview. And in regard to Justice deputy permanent secretary Thawatchai Thaikhieu, the "government" could have easily bought the exclusive rights for all interviews, or even better implement a gag order for personal interviews with the boys by local and international media. Their article 44 was used for much less entities before. But of course that would look pretty weird at the point when the Ministry of Culture and the TAT sell the exclusive rights of the cave story to Hollywood. To use the famous phrase of Walter Cronkite: '...and now you know the rest of the story' - UPDATE: Govt gives green light to production of movie about Tham Luang mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, kannot said: money money money.......theyd sell their own daughters...............oh wait! Easy to say from behind your computer. Some people are really poor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 ... and yet every single one of us bar none will read the articles and watch the interviews. The fact that we are all talking about it now indicates we all still have an interest in this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, jaltsc said: "Thailand has put in place a system to protect this group of children... " How about protecting this group of children????? Thank you three times. It makes me sick to my bones to read about what is happening to the kids in Thai schools on such a frequent basis. The cave story was an extraordinary one, but the evil going on in the schools is a tragedy that never seems to end. Yet few people seem perturbed enough to deal with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, scorecard said: Do you say that with any professional knowledge and experience in psychiatry and specifically in the area of PTSD? Yes to express about ur feelings and experiences bad or good is always better then to express nothing.. Anyway soon the coach will tell us his story or is he also restricted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Happy Grumpy Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: “Some foreign media have acted below the professional standard which is something regrettable and unforgivable,” How many photos of dead people being pointed at are in the Thai newspapers today? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, eggers said: Despite some of the sniping reviews, think for the boys welfare, media should back off & show some respect. Give the boys time to resume there normal lives again. Will be difficult enough, without the intrusion of media hacks, trying to get a story that will be cut & sliced to suit media producers purposes, i.e self promoting interest, nothing to do with boys or coach!! You think so? How long have you been here? Don't put Western values on Thai mentality, it doesn't wash, it doesn't work! Those boys are safe and sound and now when the money aspect takes over and parents become involved, it's all about CASH! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 hours ago, ezzra said: i don't see what's the problem here He's not Thai, is the problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: Yes to express about ur feelings and experiences bad or good is always better then to express nothing.. Anyway soon the coach will tell us his story or is he also restricted? Are you quoting this from solid broad psychiatry research or just your opinion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xonax Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 The foreign interview of the kids was shown on Thai tv. Isn't that a crime as well??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinL Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, graemeaylward said: It is called respect! These youngsters have been through a terrible ordeal and trauma and deserve to be left alone to resume their lives, without the intrusion of the media. Show some dignity and allow individuals the freedom to enjoy their personal space and move on! Sent from my Lenovo A3000-H using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Yet I saw all 13 of them assembled on a Thai TV show on Wednesday evening (i.e. before the pronouncement from this bloke) and they seemed to enjoy the experience. Edited July 21, 2018 by MartinL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aforek Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, yellowboat said: They will probably be just as happy when the media circus leaves town. put medias in the same cave during the rainy season, they will have something to tell and know what the feelings are no need to interview the kids 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonKorat Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 The boy seems very happy with the journalist,probably got a good payday for the interview,seems the authorities seem jealous to me for missing out on their cut! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timber Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) To tell the press something and expect them to follow the rules is being very naive. They professionally and financially have an incredible investment and interest in getting breaking news. If you don't want them interviewed for a couple of months, need to either seclude them or have a body guard. There are the good guys and the bad guys in the media, and a whole bunch of levels in between. The do gooders say don't do that, but the real world is a fantasy to them. It's not a Thai thing it's a problem with humanity. To say it is a Thai thing is ignorant. Edited July 21, 2018 by timber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 Justice deputy permanent secretary Thawatchai Thaikhieu is an incredible buffoon. Unforgivable? What, the traffic deaths on the road are not a concern to you? What about: The deaths of 46 Chinese tourists, due to the negligence of the captain, the boat owners, and the authorities? The continued incompetence of Little P., and the effect it is having on the Thai economy. What about his continued postponement of elections? This is not unforgivable? The taxi mafias existing nationwide, without any regulation. This is not unforgivable? The massive amount of human trafficking, and slave labor, being peddled by current Thai officials, and police? This is not a concern to you? This is not unforgivable? Well, why are you making no effort to pursue any of these criminals? Why are you just sitting in your office and spouting useless drivel? Give me a break. This feigned outrage is so petty. Of course journalists want to interview these boys. This is a big story. If they do not want to be interviewed, they can just tell the journalists to get lost. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cookieqw Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, MartinL said: Yet I saw all 13 of them assembled on a Thai TV show on Wednesday evening (i.e. before the pronouncement from this bloke) and they seemed to enjoy the experience. They were promoting the Gov line, carefully rehearsed answers to hand picked questions. Now they get to say what they really felt. scares the authorities 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieqw Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Justice deputy permanent secretary Thawatchai Thaikhieu is an incredible buffoon. Unforgivable? What, the traffic deaths on the road are not a concern to you? What about: The deaths of 46 Chinese tourists, due to the negligence of the captain, the boat owners, and the authorities? The continued incompetence of Little P., and the effect it is having on the Thai economy. What about his continued postponement of elections? This is not unforgivable? The taxi mafias existing nationwide, without any regulation. This is not unforgivable? The massive amount of human trafficking, and slave labor, being peddled by current Thai officials, and police? This is not a concern to you? This is not unforgivable? Well, why are you making no effort to pursue any of these criminals? Why are you just sitting in your office and spouting useless drivel? Give me a break. This feigned outrage is so petty. Of course journalists want to interview these boys. This is a big story. If they do not want to be interviewed, they can just tell the journalists to get lost. Was their outrage on Thai media about the PE teacher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike b Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 news is news...no one can stop this and probably if they stop them now it will just mean they will be hounded for longer...better get it over with as news will soon move on to another story somewhere else in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Probably worried that facts gained from interviews might conflict with the government censorship of any film in the making Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) It's not so much the interviews it's the crap that reporters write. Lots of 'get out clauses' It's my belief that blah blah. From what 'I' understand it seems blah blah. It isn't confirmed but blah blah. Another source has been reported as saying blah blah. It might be lost in translation however it also seems blah blah. Edited July 21, 2018 by overherebc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMonroe Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Journalists want to get a story. It's their job. But when it comes to children, victims of sexual assault, etc., there are ethical considerations concerning the welfare of those people versus the desire or need to tell a story or report the news. Unfortunately, not all journalists adhere to these ethical considerations. Especially television journalists. Whether you like the Thai authorities or not, in this instance, they are doing the right thing, and they are following the advice of doctors and psychologists in doing so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booboo101 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I bet the kids are loving all the attention, the Thai authorities are only upset because they can no longer control the situation ! 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toenail Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 I saw the short interview on TV ( USA) and it was done professionally and portrayed the Thai family in a positive way. Americans and other nationalities around the world were praying for these boys daily and heard about this event daily. With the international involvement in saving these kids or those who were glued to the news about these kids’ safety, a short news item about the “aftermath” is fine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 This seems consistent with the president of the US is saying about undesirablity of a free press and it would a US journalist and media organization. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Thai government don't give a toss about these brats. They just don't want any potential loss of earnings lol. They are not there mother or father and any interviews is up to the parents. Go use Some body else. And please hurry with election dates so we can return you to the barracks ASAP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post josephbloggs Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 As soon as I saw this headline, before I'd even clicked on the link, I knew it would have whipped up a typical and predictable TVF frenzy and I wasn't disappointed. Jeez you guys love it don't you - the parents would have got money for it, typical Thais obsessed by greed, always blame foreigners, why not kick all the foreigners out of the country - that'll be the next step, etc etc. The fact is the boys have been through a massively traumatic experience that none of us could ever comprehend, the youngest is only 11. Professional counsellors and child psychologists have recommended the boys not be pressed on things or asked to recount the trauma - not yet. The Thai press respected that, the foreign press did not. That's the fact of the matter. And to think there are people on here saying "it'll be better for them to talk about it". So of course TVF has not only cave experts, rescue coordination experts, diving experts, but also trauma experts and child psychologists! We're so lucky to have such people here. Just imagine instead the headline was "Thai media slammed for pursuit of Wild Boars boys" then the very same people would be in a very similar frenzy, I guarantee it. The foreign media are more ethical and respect the guidance of professionals, typical Thais just trying to sell more newspapers because Thais only care about money, etc etc, blah blah. So typical. So predictable. So pathetic. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pattaya1234was Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 The media were asked to stay away from the boys and ABC decided in its wisdom to take no notice. End of story. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, pattaya1234was said: The media were asked to stay away from the boys and ABC decided in its wisdom to take no notice. End of story. Based on the old 'the public has a right to know.' That in my my mind only covers decisions made in higher political realms that would have a negative effect on the population at large. The cave rescue is of interest only, not national or international political decisions. And, no, I'm not pointing a political finger at anyone, I'm talking about the rescue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, overherebc said: It's not so much the interviews it's the crap that reporters write. Lots of 'get out clauses' It's my belief that blah blah. From what 'I' understand it seems blah blah. It isn't confirmed but blah blah. Another source has been reported as saying blah blah. It might be lost in translation however it also seems blah blah. @Dexlowe Sad??? You, me or the post ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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