elviajero Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 <deleted> heroes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 7 hours ago, rooster59 said: "It was quite emotional for me to be able pass those messages back,” he added. Even more so that they proved surplus to requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I’m very proud of you squad, you were the real heroes. Salute, salute!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted July 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2018 Each and every person had a job to do under difficult and very stressful circumstances during this rescue. That is why each and every one of them is a Hero , from the British Cave Divers, Thai Navy Seals, to the team that kept them all fed and watered, and the lady that mended the socks No one set of rescuers is better than anybody else! they were all absolutely brilliant. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Now that the rescue has been miraculously succeeded and and the recriminations have not yet been all sussed out , who pays for all of this? International Rescue teams? helicopters, thousands of staffs? Overtime? Climbing a mountainSkiing off piste “Going into a cave”DivingParachutingFlying in a squirrel suitAn all the rest of the dangerous and exciting pursuits are very exciting, but should the whole society have to pay for the fabulous activities of Evil Knievel daredevils? From nowon it should be case closed on caves and known that anyone who goes beyond the normal lighted and footpath marked sections of KNOWN tourist caves is on their own responsibilities and there will be no free rescue. Let them buy insurance for that!I’m not paying Taxes here so it does not cost me but as an American I’m dead tired of big government picking my pocket to pay for the poor decisions made by people with bad judgment and no money or insurance. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wcoast Posted July 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2018 That's the difference between Americans and the rest of the world, the rest of the world has a heart.And while we are at it, who the heck should pay for Americas bombing campaigns against the world. KeeneowNow that the rescue has been miraculously succeeded and and the recriminations have not yet been all sussed out , who pays for all of this? International Rescue teams? helicopters, thousands of staffs? Overtime? Climbing a mountainSkiing off piste “Going into a cave”DivingParachutingFlying in a squirrel suit An all the rest of the dangerous and exciting pursuits are very exciting, but should the whole society have to pay for the fabulous activities of Evil Knievel daredevils? From nowon it should be case closed on caves and known that anyone who goes beyond the normal lighted and footpath marked sections of KNOWN tourist caves is on their own responsibilities and there will be no free rescue. Let them buy insurance for that! I’m not paying Taxes here so it does not cost me but as an American I’m dead tired of big government picking my pocket to pay for the poor decisions made by people with bad judgment and no money or insurance. Sent from my abacus using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 The rest of the world has a heart? What rubbish!Why don’t you go to the local Indian, Chinese,or Arab and ask for some money?But thanks for bringing up the biggest problem. The “world” does not need a policeman and the US military could be cut 90 percent with no effect on the US security, it is more about corporate welfare and providing “do” work for the uneducated.It is not like some kids fell into a hole by accident. Nobody is more relieved than me they were rescued it really is a miracle but let’s be serious the team had no business going down there lead by an inexperienced adult no less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chama Posted July 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2018 7 hours ago, robblok said: I disagree, the goverment acted quite well and a capable man was put in charge. You can't expect them to have a team of cave divers ready. The seals were heroes they did more then support the foreign divers they went in before the foreign divers. They played a roll just as big and thankfully ego was not important otherwise the foreign divers would not have been allowed to help. They knew the foreign divers were better trained so they used them, that is what you do work with the best tools available. If you think the divers were heroes.. your right.. but without the Thai support of pumping the water away even your hero divers would not have succeeded. Does that mean they only supported the pump people ?. Just accept it was a team effort instead of the misplaced pride that people get for the deeds of others. (cheering the foreigners just because they were foreigners) Once again those involved have risen above the average man. None of them are claiming hero status. They recognize, as you have pointed out, that it was a team effort and each played an essential role. The article pointed out that it took 2,000 people each day to make this mission a success. Credit goes to these people for getting the job done and then moving on with a feeling of accomplishment and pride in their efforts without all of the clamoring for all of the credit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 6 hours ago, UncleRico said: Who writes this crap? ABC NEWS By MATT GUTMAN, ROBERT ZEPEDA, LAUREN EFFRON Send an email Jul 27, 2018, 4:01 AM ET 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbrwn1 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) Team effort for sure. But the rare skill sets supplied by certain foereign countries are what made this recue operation a fully successful one. Edited July 29, 2018 by goldenbrwn1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcoast Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Maybe you should have followed the story a bit closer, they had lots of experience exploring that cave. Maybe their experience was the only thing that saved them. I live just a few kilometers from it myself and have visited it numerous times. S#it happens and they got trapped by sudden rising rushing waters while deep in the cave.The rest of the world has a heart? What rubbish!Why don’t you go to the local Indian, Chinese,or Arab and ask for some money?But thanks for bringing up the biggest problem. The “world” does not need a policeman and the US military could be cut 90 percent with no effect on the US security, it is more about corporate welfare and providing “do” work for the uneducated.It is not like some kids fell into a hole by accident. Nobody is more relieved than me they were rescued it really is a miracle but let’s be serious the team had no business going down there lead by an inexperienced adult no less.Sent from my abacus using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 They had experience exploring the cave under normal conditions OK. If they had real experience like the Royal Thai navy Seals and western expert caver blokes who RESCUED them they would never go underground there that time of year without dive gear and backups. Sorry I believe in In personal responsibility. Stop spewing rubbish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted July 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 hour ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said: Now that the rescue has been miraculously succeeded and and the recriminations have not yet been all sussed out , who pays for all of this? International Rescue teams? helicopters, thousands of staffs? Overtime? Climbing a mountain Skiing off piste “Going into a cave” Diving Parachuting Flying in a squirrel suit An all the rest of the dangerous and exciting pursuits are very exciting, but should the whole society have to pay for the fabulous activities of Evil Knievel daredevils? From now on it should be case closed on caves and known that anyone who goes beyond the normal lighted and footpath marked sections of KNOWN tourist caves is on their own responsibilities and there will be no free rescue. Let them buy insurance for that! I’m not paying Taxes here so it does not cost me but as an American I’m dead tired of big government picking my pocket to pay for the poor decisions made by people with bad judgment and no money or insurance. I pay tax here and am delighted to have as much as needed spent on this. I am more dissapointed in having my taxi money build roads, install street lights, sweep the streets that people like you dont contribute to use. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 How can I pay tax please!Don’t count the automatic tax on my fixed accounts interest at Bangkok Bank I have 10 + millions invested.I think I am paying tax indirectly on various just not income tax as I have no income here. Not alone on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GTgrizzly Posted July 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2018 10 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Brave Men and have to say if it wasn't for them the Boys would not have survived. Not enough has been done for them by the Thai Government, whilst they continue to pat themselves on the back for their own Seals, who actually only played a supporting roll ! That's a bit harsh trainman It was a team effort all around and every one played an important roll... being support or even providing meals for the actual rescuers Maybe it has slipped your mind, but one of those "only support" seals gave his life while this recue was taking place 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 13 hours ago, rooster59 said: It was a case of getting him out. A bit brutal but dead or alive”. Dead or alive? I'm not sure I'd have been so brave as to put the child's life a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted July 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, fullcave said: Dead or alive? I'm not sure I'd have been so brave as to put the child's life a risk. What was the alternative? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, billd766 said: What was the alternative? Find a mask that fits? Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Just now, fullcave said: Find a mask that fits? Just a guess. Given the time constraints it would not have been that easy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, billd766 said: Given the time constraints it would not have been that easy. 1 Well, might have predicted as much, seeing how children normally need a child's mask. But anyway, I'm only saying I would not have been brave enough to take that gamble. No comment on safety procedures, organization or cave rescue management. They got them all out alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 10 hours ago, lovelomsak said: Your post leaves me with a nagging question that I cannot answer may be you can. I f the foreigners would not have helped would the Thai's been able to save the boys? If they were left to their own resources would have they succeeded Think about it. I wouldn't respond; he's just miffed there were no dutch in the mix (why would there be?). It was indeed a coming together of forces, but some folk on here get all silly and envious as soon as Brits are mentioned. They can do no good in their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Did any of the Brits in the rescue team wear a Chang wife-beater vest? Maybe we will have to wait for the movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiChakayan Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 12 hours ago, robblok said: I am not sure about that but I do know that without the Thai pumping efforts the foreigners would also not been able to save them. So I conclude it was a team effort. All parts had to work together, take one part out and it would have failed. Sure, the Thais were good at pumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) I hope that Hollywood translate the Brit's English for the American theatres. Perhaps with subtitle? ? Edited July 29, 2018 by jenny2017 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 2 hours ago, billd766 said: What was the alternative? There was no other alternative, methinks. ❓ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, champers said: Did any of the Brits in the rescue team wear a Chang wife-beater vest? Maybe we will have to wait for the movie. In the movie all the divers were watching a go go show in Pattaya when the phone rang . And they barely managed to finish their drinks and leave the girls behind before they were on their way on a rescue mission. That's a start of a movie I do not want to see but you never know what Hollywood might end up with. Edited July 29, 2018 by balo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted July 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, lvr181 said: Hollywood produced = only USA persons Bet they manage to write in a "strong woman part". All Hollywood films these days seem to have a kickass female in them. Well done to all involved, from the women that cooked for the rescuers to the rescuers themselves. This was a real team effort. Edited July 30, 2018 by thaibeachlovers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted July 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2018 9 hours ago, fullcave said: Dead or alive? I'm not sure I'd have been so brave as to put the child's life a risk. So, what would you have done? Left inside was going to be certain death. At least he had a chance of survival, and did survive. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted July 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2018 9 hours ago, fullcave said: Find a mask that fits? Just a guess. It wasn't just any mask. It was a specialised mask, and they may not even make them that small, as children that young would not normally use one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 20 hours ago, robblok said: I am not sure about that but I do know that without the Thai pumping efforts the foreigners would also not been able to save them. So I conclude it was a team effort. All parts had to work together, take one part out and it would have failed. The answer is almost certainly no they would not have been able to save them but the point you made about the Thai support is completely correct. The point being that everyone played their part to the best of their ability and pulled off a staggeringly dangerous rescue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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