Yaxley-Lennon’s supporters avoid discussing the fact that his actions placed the trial of child rapists in jeopardy of becoming a mistrial or worse still the verdict being judged ‘unsafe’.

 

An ‘unsafe’ verdict would result in the rapists being set free and never facing retrial.

 

Every argument put forward by Yaxley-Lennon’s supporters avoids dealing with the issue that got him arrested and thrown in prison.

 

3 hours ago, sanemax said:

This is nothing to do with the USA

Right, but I was responding to this piece of misinformation:

 

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 These bans are common in courts around the world to protect the judicial process. Journalist deal with publication bans at almost every trial they cover.

 

Rather than being common it is extremely rare. Courts almost always come down on the side of transparency and the public's right of access to the court room. Remember, that it in criminal cases "the public" is the one bringing the action through it's appointed representatives. 

39 minutes ago, evadgib said:

 

My God that was cringeworthy to watch - what a fawning sycophant!

 

"Oh Tommy, where were Amnesty International?  Where were Reporters Without Borders?".   Seriously?  

"Oh Tommy, it's a form of torture!  They treat Guantanamo Bay prisoners better than you Tommy."

"He's like a POW who has been forced to build the Burma railway!"  Get a grip man!

"Rescued from torture".

"I know if Tommy were a Muslim prisoner in Guantanamo Bay, or a Brit or an American in North Korea or Iran, we would have a word for how Tommy was treated, and that word is torture".   

 

Pass the sick bucket, truly cringeworthy.

8 hours ago, cyberfarang said:

Try getting your facts right. Tommy left Rebel Media and went independent last February.

So The Rebel UK is nothing to do with Rebel Media; even though it is full of links to Rebel media and the homepage has a form to subscribe to both?

 

Even if it is true that Yaxley-Lennon no longer works for Levant, my statement that Levant is neither an expert in English law nor unbiased in this case is correct.

8 hours ago, alfieconn said:

It was on the BBC website, (not sure if that is local or National ?)

The report was on the local news page of the BBC website. The BBC has local news pages for all over the UK; you can chose country, region or even put your postcode in for really local news.

 

8 hours ago, alfieconn said:

of which Tommy read the names from, that's it finished no need for you to waffle on anymore !

As you have now stated that Yaxley-Lennon was reading the names, breaking the reporting restrictions and therefore is guilty of contempt of court you are correct; there is no need for me to try and find simpler and simpler ways of explaining it to you.

8 hours ago, cyberfarang said:

Wrong again.

 

Tommy Robinson was charged, tried, found guilty and thrown into jail within hours of being arrested. He was not placed in a holding cell or given bail allowing a reasonable time to prepare his case. Nazi war criminals were given fairer trials. This has been an exercise to gag Tommy Robinson and quickly.

 

If your ludicrous claim were even remotely true, Yaxley-Lennon was not, and never has been, gagged.

 

During all of his several terms in prison for violence and fraud he and his supporters have continued to publicise his views. They continued to do so during his latest imprisonment.

 

How is that gagging?

His supporters on here and everywhere else claim that Yaxley-Lennon is a hero defending innocent children against evil rapists; a hero for exposing this horrible crime the authorities try to cover up.

 

This is simply not true.

 

That grooming Muslim child grooming gangs went unhindered for so long is a national scandal. As is the fact that child sexual abuse in children's homes by both Catholic and Anglican priests also went on unhindered by the authorities for decades; as has many other instances of child abuse and grooming; whether by gangs or individuals.

 

All of these cases were discovered through the efforts of investigative journalists from the mainstream media or whistleblowers in the organisations concerned.

 

Yaxley-Lennon has never discovered or exposed or in any way been connected with the arrest, let alone conviction, of anyone concerned with the sexual abuse of children.

 

On the contrary.

 

When his mate and EDL leader Richard Price was convicted of possessing child pornography, Yaxley-Lennon at first defended him. He only changed his tune and condemned Price after pressure from other EDL members.

 

When another of his mates, Leigh McMillan was convicted of grooming and raping a 10 year old girl over 100 times Yaxley-Lennon was silent.

 

When Paul Whiteside, another EDL member, was convicted of abducting a 15 year old girl and photographs of her in states of undress were found on his phone, not a word from Yaxley-Lennon.

 

Actions which seems very strange from a man who claims to be concerned with exposing child rapists!

 

Some may say that Yaxley-Lennon is no longer associated with the EDL; which is simply a pathetic attempt to excuse him. Child abuse of any kind, but especially child sexual abuse, is inexcusable and vile; no matter who commits it. Yaxley-Lennon is only concerned when the perpetrators are Muslim.

 

This, alone, shows his true agenda; that he uses the suffering of innocent children to promote that agenda is disgusting.

Troll posts removed.  

 

3 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

If your ludicrous claim were even remotely true, Yaxley-Lennon was not, and never has been, gagged.

 

During all of his several terms in prison for violence and fraud he and his supporters have continued to publicise his views. They continued to do so during his latest imprisonment.

 

How is that gagging?

Then why did 3 leading judges quash the contempt of court findings, stateing that the sentences had been unduly hasty, and therefore not giving T.R sufficient time to prepare his defense. Although it must be said that his actions could have lead to a miss trial, and therefore he was in the wrong.

 One of the things I found very worrying regarding his impisonment. Firstly he was sent to a prison that contained a small number of  Muslims, then for some reason he was transferred to a prison with the highest Muslim population in the south 30%+. Basically he was in solitary confinement, with his food prepared and delivered to his cell by Muslims, who seemed to take pleasure in insinuating that they may have contaminated his food. All this with the connivance of the authority.

 Compare this with the prison conditions enjoyed by Anjem Choudhry.

 

 

57 minutes ago, nontabury said:

3 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

If your ludicrous claim were even remotely true, Yaxley-Lennon was not, and never has been, gagged.

 

During all of his several terms in prison for violence and fraud he and his supporters have continued to publicise his views. They continued to do so during his latest imprisonment.

 

How is that gagging?

Then why did 3 leading judges quash the contempt of court findings, stateing that the sentences had been unduly hasty, and therefore not giving T.R sufficient time to prepare his defense. Although it must be said that his actions could have lead to a miss trial, and therefore he was in the wrong.

What has your response got to do with the post of mine you quoted?

 

Yes, the appeal did order a retrial of the Leeds contempt case; but that has nothing to do with the fact that there is no gagging order on Yaxley-Lennon.

 

There was a reporting restriction originally on the Leeds contempt case as it could have adversely affected the child rape case; but this was lifted after an appeal by a reporter from LeedsLive. For her trouble she received online abuse and threats of rape and death from some Yaxley-Lennon supporters (source).

 

BTW, it turns out that Yaxley-Lennon lied in court and gave a false address (source). Yet more lies from him.

 

Yaxley-Lennon's website, Facebook page etc. were being regularly updated whilst he was inside; how is that gagging?

 

57 minutes ago, nontabury said:

One of the things I found very worrying regarding his impisonment. Firstly he was sent to a prison that contained a small number of  Muslims, then for some reason he was transferred to a prison with the highest Muslim population in the south 30%+. Basically he was in solitary confinement, with his food prepared and delivered to his cell by Muslims, who seemed to take pleasure in insinuating that they may have contaminated his food. All this with the connivance of the authority.

Yes, HMP Onley, which is in the Midlands not the South, has a Muslim population of around 30%.

 

As for the rest of your claims; what is your source? Yaxley-Lennon; a proven liar?

 

57 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 Compare this with the prison conditions enjoyed by Anjem Choudhry.

Go on, then; reveal all. From a credible source, please.

7 hours ago, 7by7 said:

His supporters on here and everywhere else claim that Yaxley-Lennon is a hero defending innocent children against evil rapists; a hero for exposing this horrible crime the authorities try to cover up.

 

This is simply not true.

 

That grooming Muslim child grooming gangs went unhindered for so long is a national scandal. As is the fact that child sexual abuse in children's homes by both Catholic and Anglican priests also went on unhindered by the authorities for decades; as has many other instances of child abuse and grooming; whether by gangs or individuals.

 

All of these cases were discovered through the efforts of investigative journalists from the mainstream media or whistleblowers in the organisations concerned.

 

Yaxley-Lennon has never discovered or exposed or in any way been connected with the arrest, let alone conviction, of anyone concerned with the sexual abuse of children.

 

On the contrary.

 

When his mate and EDL leader Richard Price was convicted of possessing child pornography, Yaxley-Lennon at first defended him. He only changed his tune and condemned Price after pressure from other EDL members.

 

When another of his mates, Leigh McMillan was convicted of grooming and raping a 10 year old girl over 100 times Yaxley-Lennon was silent.

 

When Paul Whiteside, another EDL member, was convicted of abducting a 15 year old girl and photographs of her in states of undress were found on his phone, not a word from Yaxley-Lennon.

 

Actions which seems very strange from a man who claims to be concerned with exposing child rapists!

 

Some may say that Yaxley-Lennon is no longer associated with the EDL; which is simply a pathetic attempt to excuse him. Child abuse of any kind, but especially child sexual abuse, is inexcusable and vile; no matter who commits it. Yaxley-Lennon is only concerned when the perpetrators are Muslim.

 

This, alone, shows his true agenda; that he uses the suffering of innocent children to promote that agenda is disgusting.

 

It's all well and good making sound, truthful, reasoned, non-hysterical posts with correct spelling and grammar but you have to admit that the UK is slowly but surely being swamped by a tide of these people with their outdated beliefs, and our culture and values are being eroded.  They are violent, they rape and abuse children, they interfere with judicial processes, they commit fraud, they beat their wives and occasionally even go under fake names (of dead football hooligans) .  What's more they stick to their own and refuse to assimilate.  Yes, it's time to stand up for what we believe in and denounce these white, non-Muslim, racist manipulators for what they really are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wish that interview had more time...

23 hours ago, Grouse said:

1.5% scum is not unusual. Just scrape it off with a spatula and discard 

1.5% You are assuming they are all Brits, he has a lot of followers from over the pond...

19 hours ago, sanemax said:

This is nothing to do with the USA

Most of those mouthing off in the UK media in support of this scumbag seem to be from the US or Canada...

1 hour ago, Basil B said:

Most of those mouthing off in the UK media in support of this scumbag seem to be from the US or Canada...

Could you give us some links for them as i must have missed them, thanks

13 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

Could you give us some links for them as i must have missed them, thanks

I think you’re out of asking others for links. 

14 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

Could you give us some links for them as i must have missed them, thanks

The BBC has interviewed many persons, as a stated those that seem to think he is a nice guy seem to be be North American misfits, one in particular was his former boss at "The Rebel Media". 

Just now, Basil B said:

The BBC has interviewed many persons, as a stated those that seem to think he is a nice guy seem to be be North American misfits, one in particular was his former boss at "The Rebel Media". 

BBC you say, damm i missed it, always like to listen to someone with a neutral view !

58 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

Could you give us some links for them as i must have missed them, thanks

Still waiting for the link to the video you claimed you had!

30 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

BBC you say, damm i missed it, always like to listen to someone with a neutral view !

Yet you have used an old BBC article in Yaxley-Lennon's defence!

 

Consistency is not Yaxley-Lennons strongpoint, so I suppose we cannot expect it from his followers.

 

2 hours ago, Basil B said:

Most of those mouthing off in the UK media in support of this scumbag seem to be from the US or Canada...

Just last month a Canadian guy, in my local Bangkok bar , asked me my views on ' poor ' Tommy Robinson. He was quite taken aback by my venomous response !

It's ironic (or pathetic ) that those in North America fueling the fake news debate , seem to be those most willing to fall victim to it.

14 hours ago, nontabury said:

Firstly he was sent to a prison that contained a small number of  Muslims, then for some reason he was transferred to a prison with the highest Muslim population in the south 30%+

Further to my previous response to this.

 

HMP Hull is a catergory B prison. It houses inmates from North Yorkshire and those on remand in that area.

 

Yaxley-Lennon was sent there straight from Leeds Crown Court, but as he is not from North Yorkshire, was no longer on remand and was a category C prisoner not category B he was quickly transferred to HMP Onley, a category C prison.

 

Furthermore, HMP Onley is less than an hour away from Luton, whereas HMP Hull is nearly 4 hours. So, obviously, the transfer made it easier for his wife and family to visit him.

 

This is speculation on my part. As is the case with all prisoner transfers, the Ministry Of Justice have not made the reasons for his transfer public.

1 hour ago, alfieconn said:

BBC you say, damm i missed it, always like to listen to someone with a neutral view !

The BBC is not neutral on this...

 

They interview a lot more people who think the sun shines out of his arse, the thing is anyone with an IQ of 70+ can see right through their BS...

On 8/1/2018 at 6:38 PM, ivor bigun said:

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A fit up he was filmed asking the police was it ok to film and they said yes. Glad he is out

 

On 8/1/2018 at 7:13 PM, stevenl said:

Making it up as you go.

See @ 5.42 min

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Consider the stink that Yaxley-Lennon and his 'supporters' would kick up if he had been allowed to continue is performance outside of the court and had brought about a mistrial or worse still an unsafe verdict. 

 

Imagine for a moment if the news was not 'Yaxley-Lennon' released on bail awaiting retrial but because of his actions it was:

 

'Child Rapists Released from Prison, Convictions Overturned as 'Unsafe' - Compensation will be paid'

 

 

 

Just now, alfieconn said:

On 8/1/2018 at 6:38 PM, ivor bigun said:

 

See @ 5.42 min

 

 

Even if this video was precisely what you claim it to be, what you fail to get your head around is the Police do not give permission to commit contempt of court. 

 

It is the Judge who has absolute discretion to determine if actions are in contempt of the court proceedings before him. 

 

You could have a signed and stamped authority to film, but if at any time the Judge decides filming and the statements made/actions taken during the filming are a threat to the case before him, he at his sole discretion can order you to stop filming. 

If you do not, waving your permit will have no relevance,  you are in contempt of the court. 

11 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

On 8/1/2018 at 6:38 PM, ivor bigun said:

 

See @ 5.42 min

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do agree with you this is confusing. I also think that if he had not mentioned any names he would have been ok.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Even if this video was precisely what you claim it to be, what you fail to get your head around is the Police do not give permission to commit contempt of court. 

 

It is the Judge who has absolute discretion to determine if actions are in contempt of the court proceedings before him. 

 

You could have a signed and stamped authority to film, but if at any time the Judge decides filming and the statements made/actions taken during the filming are a threat to the case before him, he at his sole discretion can order you to stop filming. 

If you do not, waving your permit will have no relevance,  you are in contempt of the court. 

Where have failed to get my head round anything ?  i posted it because stevenl accused another poster of "making it up as you go" and wanted to see the evidence, but no doubt he will say that it wasn't Tommy ?

1 minute ago, alfieconn said:

Where have failed to get my head round anything ?  i posted it because stevenl accused another poster of "making it up as you go" and wanted to see the evidence, but no doubt he will say that it wasn't Tommy ?

Please read so you don't make false accusations.